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Barty 11:28 Thu Sep 28
The war in Ukraine
I miss the "is putin about to make a big mistake" thread

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riosleftsock 1:33 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
Worth a read

https://tomluongo.me/2024/02/20/why-war-bonds-are-making-their-return-in-europe/

riosleftsock 1:32 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
Nothing wrong with 19th Century, but the concept of laws of God Nature and Man predate the 19th C by quite a bit.

The people behind the EU, UN, WHO, DAVOS/WEF and NATO are intellectual pygmies if you hold them up against the great thinkers of antiquity and right through to Locke, Paine, Voltaire etc.

Having a government that is for and of, us, is a simple idea that is antithetical to technocratic, megalomaniac idealogues who always end up just a few corpses short of utopia. Every single time.

Jaan Kenbrovin 1:08 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
There is very little support for an EU army amongst member states. Many of which are NATO members Trump has pressured to pay their way.

Hammer and Pickle 1:02 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
Your idea of national sovereignty belongs n the 19th Century along with the rest of that guff about God’s law and natural law. No basic reference points for interpreting what is going on in the real world will do that. You’re a crank.

riosleftsock 12:41 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
I should probably get my other cataract done, I read it as chablis.

A Eurobond is a sign of a further erosion of national sovereignty and will definitely lead to 'temporary' EU levied direct taxation, but you will have no representation. You will be paying for your own enslavement. Enjoy your new life as a russian serf, you will own nothing and be happy and nobody will save you, the EU empire will collapse as its a giant ponzi scheme and maybe, some European states will rise again.

Hammer and Pickle 12:35 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
Yeah yeah

Drink up your white Chianti

riosleftsock 12:27 Thu Feb 29
Re: The war in Ukraine
There is a bit of trouble brewing in Moldova/Traniestr.

Moldova is said to be beginning mobilisation with a view to invading Traniestr. Tiraspol is appealing to help from EU, OSCE, UN and Russia.

Keep an eye on it.

Dwight Van Mann 11:52 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
It's Red Cabbage Chianti

Hammer and Pickle 11:48 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
The idea that a Euro war bond breaks rule of law (especially if ratified by sovereign members) is as absurd as a white Chianti.

What an arsehole you are SBT 2.

riosleftsock 11:42 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
White wine with beef stew?

Are you a fucking barbarian?

riosleftsock 11:41 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Depends how you look at it Gopnik. Treaties are treaties, international rules based order, rule of law, EU values etc...Ahem

So when the EU army is funded by the EU war bond, will the EU countries leave NATO or just defund it?

Hammer and Pickle 11:40 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Anyway, I think a Euro war-bond is a perfectly sensible recourse in current circumstances.

And yes, I am enjoying a very nice glass of Chianti with this excellent beef-shank stew I made over the weekend.

Dwight Van Mann 11:32 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Hammer and Pickle 11:27 Wed Feb 28


My take is you are an alcoholic who is getting drunk right now

Hammer and Pickle 11:27 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
My take is you’re talking bollocks as usual.

Dwight Van Mann 11:24 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Hammer and Pickle 11:22 Wed Feb 28


"Lisbon and Maastricht did not envisage an aggressive, imperialistic Kremlin on Europe’s flank"


either very shortsighted or very convenient depending on your take

Hammer and Pickle 11:22 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Lisbon and Maastricht did not envisage an aggressive, imperialistic Kremlin on Europe’s flank and potentially nutjob Trump as US president undermining NATO for short-term political gain.

riosleftsock 11:10 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Gopnik

If you want the EU to raise direct taxation, that is a seismic change in EU policy. Not only that but its not allowed under the Maastricht or Lisbon treaties.

You actually want taxation without representation? You're bonkers.

Hammer and Pickle 11:05 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
A European defence bond would certainly be a step in the right direction. It would fuck Trump up well and proper and indicate the Germans have finally kicked the Kremlin cock-smoking habit.

Bring it on.

riosleftsock 10:57 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Jaan

In the background the EU want to issue 110bn in bonds (war bonds) to 're-arm' the EU.

Bonds will need security, when issued by sovereign states this is secured by the state's ability to raise taxes on its people and companies. You know what is coming....

Once the EU has the ability to tax, issue bonds and raise an army then you can forget about dangerous conspiracy theories.

Bea rin mind that NATO will be the EUs external force ,the new EU army will be an internal one.

Hammer and Pickle 10:27 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
Doesn’t make a lot of sense until you consider what a threat the Kremlin Mob is, does it SBT 3

Jaan Kenbrovin 10:20 Wed Feb 28
Re: The war in Ukraine
von der Leyen talking up giving Ukraine the profits of frozen Russian assets and the possibility of Europe going to war. Whilst claiming its purpose in making Europe a safer place to live.

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