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Hammer and Pickle 10:05 Thu Feb 22
What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Grease and Teddy Boys.

You?

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BRANDED 1:29 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I cant think of a single 70s youth fashion style that is anything but naff. The music is fucking incredible though.

Sir Alf 1:22 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Was never a fan of the Charleston and that awful jazz music in my early life. Then the arrival of “teenagers” and their beat music

Oh for a nice waltz or that coloured chappie Mr Jolson or the working class lad from the North and his ukelele

Hammer and Pickle 1:04 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
"and they were not a mob to be mucked about with..."

Really see this as the key element; as long as being part of it delivered the power and status, the trend was alive.

Northern Sold 12:25 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
How I remember it and have re-read it seemed like a lot of Punks got fed up and jumped on the mod revival ... same with the Skinheads... any decent ones anyway... the majority of the others became sieg heil'ing spearhead selling Boneheads.

A lot of the West Ham firm jumped on the Mod Revival.. lot of footage out there of famous terrace faces... majority of the Glory Boys (Secret Affair mob) West Ham through and through... and they were not a mob to be mucked about with...

Hammer and Pickle 11:46 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?

“After 1979 Punk turned much more working class and politicised as the punk flamingos jumped into the ridiculous New Romantics”

This is interesting as my memory of what I think of as the authentic, early punk must’ve been from this time. Also I accept that working class punks turning into skins over time is a stereotype.

BRANDED 10:51 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
It was still naff though.

chim chim cha boo 4:23 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
The first wave of Punks (on the whole) were Chelsea art college types, an elite who simply followed the fashion of the day. Being generally belligerent wasn't something they found easy and it showed.

As a thirteen year old I used to save my pocket money and go to Sex (Malcolm and Vivian's shop on the Kings Road and Fans on Old Compton Street in Soho, obsessing in the clothes and hoovering up what I could.

Going into Sex there was usually a posh worker Punk behind the till and as soon as I opened my Cockney trap they would mimic me and all laugh and do wanker signs that I could see in the shop's glass Windows.

I used to go to school beating myself up thinking it wasn't fair and I was spending lots of my saved up money buying their stuff.

After a couple of weeks feeling like a coward as these kids were.older than me and obviously had rich parents I was sitting in class thinking 'I should stand up for myself as the probable kicking I would get would hurt less than me beating myself for two weeks solid.

I remember getting off the tube at Sloane Square with my slightly older pal Barry feeling a bit nervous about confronting them, walked into the shop and they went through the usual humiliations, the mimicry and sniggering and I suddenly slapped this kid who was probably four or even five years older than me right around the face as hard as I could.

I then thought I was going to take a shoeing from the staff but to my amazement he started sobbing and looking at his shoes. Everyone else froze.

'got anyway else to say, you fucking posh poof'? I said and the shop went silent.

After that I was always treated quite well and it taught me one of the best lessons I have ever learned.

The cunt's probably working with Daddy doing everything he and his private school expected of him as we peasants toe the line generally, letting inept Eaton monsters rule over us as we doff our caps to the silly cunts.

After 1979 Punk turned much more working class and politicised as the punk flamingos jumped into the ridiculous New Romantics.

Any Old Iron 2:13 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Glam rock was one I swerved. I liked Bowie and I was a big fan of Tyrannosaurus Rex until Marc went glam.
But I made some money out of it. Me and a mate sold satin and velvet flares down the Lane one winter. Did alright.

zebthecat 1:50 Mon Feb 26
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
"I think many punks, initially drawn by the music scene and the anarchy counter-culture politics did eventually get the electric razor out and morph into skins"

That is largely utter bollocks.
There were the odd outlier bands such as Skrewdriver and a very brief bit of Oi! (largely promoted by Gery Bushell) but punk was an inclusive movement at heart.
I never went for the clothing largely because it was naff and expensive. Most of thoss I still know from those days, it is not many now, just grew up and took the spirit with them.
Music wise I went into a bit of Goth, Psych, Metal, Prog, Funk with an extremely fun stint depping in a Reggae band when I met a fellow traveller temping on a building site.
Given my otherwise chaotic lifestyle at the time playing music live kept me sane and punk was the reason.

Dwight Van Mann 11:49 Sun Feb 25
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Sabrina had me doing the opposite of rejecting...

https://youtu.be/EI_Aw_bQRak?t=15

Hammer and Pickle 10:34 Sun Feb 25
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I think many punks, initially drawn by the music scene and the anarchy counter-culture politics did eventually get the electric razor out and morph into skins. All credit to chim, that never happened to him.

Don’t get me wrong about McLaren and Westwood - I think they were seriously good at what they did, especially Westwood. It’s just they treated punk like a mass-consumer product, like Sullivan and Brady treats the football and the club today. So along with the raw authenticity, being punk lost status, and the skins were certainly not mass market but belligerent, militaristic and working class. They were definitely one reason why a white middle class kid with intellectual pretentious would choose to stay away from Upton Park ;)

Oneard 12:55 Sun Feb 25
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Hammer fuck knows pal never cared of it lone wolf me far as I’m concerned all of em sheep mod worst hung around igroups shit emaelves one on one haha

Northern Sold 1:43 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Our last 2 or 3 years in senior school basically school uniform was ditched... which when you marry it with the numerous youth tribes that were around at the time made for some spectacular sights at assembly

The Mods sitting around in their fishtails, boating blazers and golf jackets

The Skins in their flight jackets and bleached levis

The Heavies in their sad levi jackets with Deep Purple and Rainbow patches and their greasy hair and full on acne

The Numanoids... who wore mascara and had a flicky wedge skin tight trousers and a cars 7"

The Ant Hill Mob... Kings of the Wild Fronteir mob sitting there with white tippex on their nose.

The Duran'ies... mainly girls fawning over Simon Le Bon

Then you had the Punks and their Anti Nowhere League adorned leather jackets... and they fucking stunk... I mean STUNK... we (the Mods) probably had more run in's with the school Punks than anyone lese... especially when one turned up wearing a Swastika T Shirt to class... one of our mob was a Jewish lad and took great umbrage to it... hour later the Punk was using his t shirt to mop up his nose... anyway great but very edgy times for sure

Hammer and Pickle 12:48 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Oneard 8:33 Sat Feb 24

I’m genuinely curious.

What happened as the years rolled by? Did the bovva boys grow out of it or did they just grow fat?

MrTrentReznor 12:28 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
In rural Ireland you had to love either U2 or Bruce Springsteen.
I believe it's in the Irish Constitution.

I never got into either.
To me both seemed preachy & pretentious.

I loved the thrash metal scene but didn't dress like one.
Some of the bands @dm derided - Metallica & Megadeth as well as Slayer, Cerebral Fix, Nailbomb etc.

Then moved onto the likes of nine, Tool, APC.

Nowadays am more open minded & will listen to all sorts of music.
A good song is a good song no matter the genre.

Recently discovered Wheeler Walker Junior & 'Fuck This Job' has kinda become an anthem at work.
'Fingerblast' is also a cracking tune.
'Redneck shit' & 'Fucked by a country boy' are great country songs.

Mex Martillo 10:37 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
ABBA, coukd not stand them and thought all associated with thhem was for nancies and poofters.
Quite like ABBA now, I thought that film was a great laugh. I guess I'm now a bit of a poofter, which seems to be cool these days.

Oneard 8:33 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
Punks we had one at school stiffest cunt you ever see then he rolls up one day with his Barnet all over the shop and makeup like tha
Ant cunt thought he was the dogs. Soon got terrorise and within a month was a skin haha

chim chim cha boo 6:39 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
BRANDED 4:41 Fri Feb 23

I hate to take issue with you but it's self-evident that there was at least one massive cunt at your school.

WHU(Exeter) 2:43 Sat Feb 24
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit
Pickle, McClaren and Westwood weren’t actually in punk bands though.

Any product at all and you will have people trying to make money out of it.

Punk got criticism because making money out of it was its antithesis, but with ANYTHING some people will try to take money out of it, whether they believe in it or not.

People like Sid Vicious and Malcolm Owen on the other hand, you wouldn’t really class them in the bracket of monetary profiteers?

zico 8:49 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
I remember reading that Midge Ure was stopped in the street after he came out of a record shop in Glasgow, by the Clash’s manager, Bernie Rhodes who then introduced him to Malcolm McLaren who was sitting in a car down a side street. Ure didn’t know who either of them were, but they apparently asked him to join this new band called The Sex Pistols without even asking what he did. He turned it down but bought an amp that they were allegedly selling from the boot of their car!

BRANDED 4:46 Fri Feb 23
Re: What was the first pop trend you remember rejecting as a bit naff?
My mistake. There was a massive cunt in our school but the Punk scene died so quickly he became a new wave cunt for a couple of years.

I heard a great description of youth movements. You never ever want to be what your older brother was.

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