Monk~koknee 1:43 Mon Mar 12
US Soldier Rampage
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Good effort in winning hearts and minds. His unit "had been part of what is called a village stabilization operation in Afghanistan. In those operations, teams of Green Berets, supported by other soldiers, try to develop close ties with village elders, organize local police units and track down Taliban leaders."
Mission accomplished I'd say. I assume that he will face justice locally.
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Ronald_antly
7:29 Fri Mar 23
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I shall NEVER reveal the secret of my slacks!
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Irony
7:15 Fri Mar 23
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I have never met SI ...therefore I have never told you I met him once. Facts Ron...get them right! :-)
Now about these man at C&A slacks of yours...
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Sydney_Iron
7:04 Fri Mar 23
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Yeh I know how to show a girl a good time, and my breastplate and slingbacks only add to the stylish fella iam, add a dash of Brut, a "Bobby Charlton" comb over and your average brass finds me irresistible.
Ron’s a sort of fashion throw away, a Marks and Sparks or C&A fella I reckon.
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Ronald_antly
6:49 Fri Mar 23
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Irony - You told me that you'd met Sydney once, and he is notorious from bothering women, who aren't very glad about it.
Scantily glad, in fact.
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Irony
6:42 Fri Mar 23
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Shut up Ron....I've told you nothing.
67 is our man on the spot for this.
Ignore Ron Sydders he's just jealous of your breastplate and slingbacks
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Ronald_antly
6:39 Fri Mar 23
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Sydney - Yes, from what Irony tells me, I doubt the woman was very glad at all.
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Sydney_Iron
6:24 Fri Mar 23
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I’ve been on a few rampages, usually involve a large amount of alcohol and scantily glad woman, I often wake up the following day with a sore head and willy and vague recollections of what happened at some points during the night.
This US soldier obviously got the wrong end of the stick when his mates said lets go out on the rampage, get a few shots in and shaft some local totty.
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Westham67
3:59 Fri Mar 23
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Tool being the key word
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Coffee
3:53 Fri Mar 23
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I'm glad you mentioned the hithertoo top secret Ron_ometer. It's a very useful tool.
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Westham67
3:50 Fri Mar 23
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On the Ron_ometer these would both rank as outrages
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Monk~koknee
3:46 Fri Mar 23
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Spree or rampage. Same same but different.
Solely down to the headline writer although maybe spree suggests a fun element to it.
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Hammerhermit
3:38 Fri Mar 23
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Just reading up about Pat Tillman again. It said he was killed by friendly fire. Does that mean he isn't as dead as if he was killed by enemy fire?
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Westham67
3:28 Fri Mar 23
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Have both the` attacks been confirmed as rampages or have they been downgraded to sprees
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Monk~koknee
3:23 Fri Mar 23
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Very defensive Shorty.
No attempt to compare this with anything else. Comparison is meaningless and only meant to deflect.
This guy is rightly being charged with murder. As would the French gunman (or nutter in your parlance). The only person making this an us/ them issue is you. For once, the US is doing the right thing in bringing these charges. Although I doubt they had no real option. It is an interesting story to watch though.
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SHORTYHAMMER
3:07 Fri Mar 23
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Cant believe you still pushing this post..trying to balance out the islamic nutter in France`s attack?
Wonder when the Islamics will hand over the guys that behead westerners on youtube. for a trial..??
doubt it huh
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Ronald_antly
3:00 Fri Mar 23
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Zero chance of that, I would think.
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Takashi Miike
2:46 Fri Mar 23
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i wonder if the murderer of Pat Tillman will ever be brought to justice? that was a massive fucking cover up
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Ronald_antly
2:32 Fri Mar 23
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"Up to 20 American soldiers (according to Afghan parliamentary probe team)"
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Monk~koknee
2:31 Fri Mar 23
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ABRIDGED FROM DAILY TELEGRAPH
A US soldier will be charged with 17 counts of murder over the killings of civilians in a rampage in southern Afghanistan, a US official said on Thursday.
The official, confirming the murder charges on condition of anonymity, also said Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales would be charged with six counts of assault and attempted murder.
Bales, 38, is alleged to have walked out of his base in the southern province of Kandahar under cover of darkness March 11 and killed 17 people in two nearby villages, including women and children, and burning some of their bodies. He later returned to his base and gave himself up.
The charges raise by one the number of deaths reported immediately after the atrocity, which plunged relations between the United States and Afghanistan to their lowest point in a decade of war.
US officials had pledged a swift and thorough investigation, and US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said Bales could face the death penalty if convicted. The soldier's motives remain unknown.
The charges are due to be officially announced Friday, sources close to the investigation said.
His lawyer John Henry Browne visited his client for the first time on Monday and Tuesday, telling reporters that Bales suffered from amnesia.
"He has an early memory of that evening and he has a later memory ... but he doesn't have memory of the evening in between," Browne told CBS News, adding that his client dismissed reports that he was drunk at the time of the attacks.
The lawyer said he would not put forward an insanity defence in any proceedings, but could pursue the case on the grounds of "diminished capacity" due to an emotional breakdown.
If the defence can convince jurors the attack was not premeditated, the maximum sentence would be life in prison and could include the possibility of parole after 10 years.
A conviction on premeditated murder can result in the death penalty or life in prison without possible parole.
But his lawyers are playing with a double-edged sword by announcing their intentions,
Conway said, because investigators will be on alert for any evidence that goes against diminished capacity.
Military juries are also not inclined to put much store in arguments that injuries, post traumatic stress disorder or financial problems result in diminished capacities, he said.
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Ronald_antly
2:17 Mon Mar 19
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"Panjwai shooting spree
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Panjwai shooting spree / Kandahar massacre
Date 11 March 2012
03:00 AFT (UTC+04:30)
Attack type Raid on three houses, spree killing, massacre
Deaths 16 civilians
Injured 5
Perpetrator
One American soldier (Staff Sergeant Robert Bales) (according to officials)
One or more soldiers (according to eyewitnesses)
Up to 20 American soldiers (according to Afghan parliamentary probe team)
The Panjwai shooting spree (or Kandahar massacre) occurred in the early morning of Sunday, 11 March 2012, when sixteen civilians (nine children, four men, and three women) were murdered and five wounded in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. Some corpses were partially burned. The dead included eleven members of one family.
The United States authorities say the killings were the act of a single soldier, while some eyewitnesses reported seeing multiple soldiers. On 15 March, an Afghan parliamentary probe team made up of several members of the National Assembly of Afghanistan announced that up to 20 American soldiers were involved in the killings. The team had spent two days in the province on site, interviewing the survivors and collecting evidence."
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Monk~koknee
1:43 Mon Mar 19
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I doubt anyone seriously thought that there was any chance that this guy would be handed over to the Afghans for trial.
Equally, I am surprised that many do not see the extreme double standards at work here whereby the US uses rendition to imprison people without trial on the grounds that they have a beard and then also goes to extremes to extradite kids and autistic geeks for alleged hacking offences. Further shame is that the successive UK governments go along with it all while at the same time spouting about moral authority.
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