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Ridikzappa 12:00 Tue Sep 9
Peppa Pig Insults Islam
Forget about IS and the atrocities being commited in the name of Islam, it's Peppa Pig, Daddy Pig, Mummy Pig and George that are offensive and should be banned.

Why? Well, according to campaigners, the cartoon character is an ‘insult to Islam’.

A Facebook page ‘Muslims against Peppa Pig’ already has nearly 2,500 followers after being created on August 23, just two weeks ago.

Who next?

Rasta Mouse as Rastafarism is blasphemous to Muhammed?

Snoopy because dogs are dirty to the eyes of Allah?

http://metro.co.uk/2014/09/05/someone-is-trying-to-ban-peppa-pig-4858123/

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Mike Oxsaw 6:55 Wed Mar 31
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:09 Tue Mar 30

"The Swizz" "passed through" Islam a couple of years ago, so he jolly well knows what he's talking about.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:55 Tue Mar 30
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Swiss,

I know you didn't say that. That's why I didn't accuse you of it. I'm surprised you would sink so low as to pretend I did.

I ridiculed you for this:

Swiss. 7:38 Tue Mar 30


'this is a bunch of fanatical extremists at work. I think due to the sensitivity of this among some Muslims it is better to avoid such confrontation'

Which says, um, exactly what I accused you of.

Swiss. 10:12 Tue Mar 30
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* you bigoted cretins lap up this Islamophobia.

Swiss. 10:10 Tue Mar 30
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:09 Tue Mar 30

Are you thick. I never said I wasn't opposed to fanatical Islamic extremists. I'm against all extremism.

What you can't get into your thick skin is that the majority of Muslims are not extremists and lap up this Islamophobia.

And as a matter of interest I'm not left wing.

Fucking moron.

Fo the Communist 9:35 Tue Mar 30
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
Connolly

Not just the left.

It was made centrepiece of the last Tory election leadership contest. And they all lapped it up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48688268

connolly8 9:30 Tue Mar 30
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
'Islamophobia' another bullshit word used by the left to try shut down any debate.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:09 Tue Mar 30
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Excellent! So, we have it direct from Swiss and enthusiastically supported by Debs.

It's wrong to oppose fanatical Islamic extremists who make up loads of stuff to be outraged about.

Darlo Debs 7:57 Tue Mar 30
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Swiss well said.

Swiss. 7:38 Tue Mar 30
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Johnson 9:16 Mon Mar 29

You are confusing 2 things.

Firstly the majority of Muslims do not find pigs offensive. They are god's creatures. This Peppa the pig has been blown out of proportion by the media. All the Koran says you can't eat pork unless any other food is not available. It's haram.

Secondly there is nothing in the Koran saying you cannot depict the image of Mohammed. Again this is a bunch of fanatical extremists at work. I think due to the sensitivity of this among some Muslims it is better to avoid such confrontation and the teacher should know better.

The right-wing media in this country love to build up Islamophobia and a lot of ignorant cretins on here gobble it up.

Mike Oxsaw 6:20 Tue Mar 30
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
So, if he shows what he claims is a cartoon of Mohammed but is, in fact, Bugs Bunny, what law has he broken?

penners28 6:18 Tue Mar 30
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My daughter was punched by a muslim kid in her class last year. She asked him why he did it, and he told her that that's what muslim men do..hit their woman

Reported it to the school...not interested..

This is where we are now

Hermit Road 6:16 Tue Mar 30
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"which is whether the teacher was right – and within his rights – to use examples of alleged blasphemy in a lesson about blasphemy. Warsi, and others, seem to believe that the teacher should not have used the drawings. But neither the law nor government guidance prohibits their use"

This is my issue, the teacher was not within his rights as a teacher. Had he been a satirist, journalist or almost any other profession I would have defended him. If he had been a teacher posting the cartoons online, I'd have defended him. I'd think he was a bit of a twat, but would defend his right to do it. He is a teacher though and is bound by professional standards and subject knowledge. His professional standards require him to promote community cohesion, we might not like that but they are standards he should be held to. By showing these cartoons he has missed the mark on that standard. As an RE teacher, his subject knowledge is expected to be at a standard that would make him aware of the impact of showing these cartoons to muslim students in his class. He might personally think they should be exposed to them and learn to deal with it, but he is employed as a teacher to do a job which requires him to take reasonable steps not to alienate his students.

The flip side is you then have a group who follow the teachings of an extremely violent mass murderer, a warlord who approved the murder of children and the enslavement of women and small girls for the purpose of sex slavery. Thankfully not all Muslims take his example of extreme violence to heart, it shouldn't be surprising that a lot do though and always have .

Darlo Debs 4:34 Tue Mar 30
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I think Fifth has already dispelled that as an ignorant thing to say in orevious posts on the same subject.

Mike Oxsaw 4:29 Tue Mar 30
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
Import 3rd world cultures, expect 3rd world attitudes.

Doesn't take a genius to join those fucking dots.

Darlo Debs 3:50 Tue Mar 30
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Rios this writer is being a bit lazy with his facts. Prevent isn't just about targetting Muslim extremism. I have had to do.Prevent training.

I do agree though that the teacher should be more supported by the school, in a non-faith school you would expect that the education might not be quite as slavish to any specific denomination and that teachers be given freedom to educate about all religions in many aspects. Could he have done that without showing a depiction? Yes probably, should he be facing this level of threat?.Absolutely not.

riosleftsock 9:24 Mon Mar 29
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
Swiss, a long piece, but you should read it. Its by Nick Timothy, but don't let that put you off.

Everyone is afraid, and nobody admits it. After a teacher in Yorkshire used a drawing of the Prophet Mohammed to teach a lesson about blasphemy, angry Muslims gathered outside his school. The teacher was suspended. The school pre-empted its own inquiry, and apologised. The teaching unions remained silent. Local politicians wrung their hands. With protests continuing, the school shut its gates and told pupils to stay at home.

On Thursday, a Muslim charity, Purpose of Life, named the teacher and, in supposedly warning against violence, legitimised and incited it by equating the actions of the teacher with terrorism and the persecution of Muslims in Myanmar. Now the teacher, with his wife and four young children, is in hiding, hoping to avoid the fate of Samuel Paty, the teacher beheaded in France last October.

Such fear is hardly misplaced. Asian youths have been seen peering through windows and trying the doors of his abandoned home. “If one teacher can do it,” said Adil Shahzad, a local imam, “another teacher can, and we do not want this to be the case. Otherwise we are not responsible for the actions of some individuals.” If the school does not “do the right thing”, he warned, Britain risks becoming like France.

You might think that intimidation of teachers, and the threat of violence if society does not accept a de facto blasphemy law, is a clear-cut issue. But no. Labour made the right noises about intimidation, but praised the school for its “swift response”, or in other words surrendering to intimidation by suspending the teacher and apologising before investigating what happened.

Sayeeda Warsi, a Conservative peer, insists “this is a child safeguarding issue”. She argues that the teacher’s use of the drawings led to “Islamophobic discourse” and Muslim children already suffer Islamophobic bullying. This is, of course, beside the point, which is whether the teacher was right – and within his rights – to use examples of alleged blasphemy in a lesson about blasphemy. Warsi, and others, seem to believe that the teacher should not have used the drawings. But neither the law nor government guidance prohibits their use.

The most that can be said is we are dealing with a double paradox. First, we might have the freedom to depict Mohammed in drawings, but we might also have a responsibility not to do so. But second, once the teacher used the drawings, we had a responsibility to defend his right to do so.

But even this argument raises questions. First, how do we teach about blasphemy – a hugely relevant subject in a diverse and pluralistic society – without using examples of blasphemy? Would we censor the use of anti-Semitic cartoons while teaching about Nazi Germany? Or cuttings depicting the Pope as the Whore of Babylon in lessons about the Reformation? And second, why is it “responsible” to avoid using depictions of Mohammed? If the responsible thing is always to avoid offence, we would avoid discussing all manner of subjects, from abortion to atheism. We would cease to be a truly free society. We say it is the responsible thing because we fear the backlash, from within Muslim communities more than any other.

This is because of the threat of violence, however cleverly or opaquely worded, from preachers and hate preachers, shady organisations and street thugs. Experience tells us such violence is common. But it is also because Islamists are using the norms, rules and fashions of liberal democracy to attack liberal, democratic principles. They have large parts of the public sector and civil society on the run.

Liberals are concerned about racism, so hardliners protect themselves by labelling any criticism they face, or policies they dislike, as racist. School uniform rules banning hijabs in primaries, for example, or the counter-terrorism Prevent strategy, supposedly target Muslims and are therefore racist.

The proposed definition of Islamophobia, which would prohibit criticism of people not on the basis of what they immutably are, but what they choose to believe, is even better for hardliners. It allows extremists to police thought and speech. Criticism of Islamism, unsurprisingly, is said by the definition to be a “constitutive part” of Islamophobia.

The fashion for identity politics is manipulated, with female spokesmen giving organisations that tolerate extremism an apparently moderate face. The right to protest is used to justify intimidation, and the right to self-expression used to undermine the self-expression of others. The public sector duty to consult, and desire to be inclusive, is used to win legitimacy and authority for extreme organisations, many of which engage routinely with local government and public services.

And the results are clear. Purpose of Life, the charity that named the teacher, lists West Yorkshire Police and the NHS as partner organisations, as well as Mend, a notorious organisation accused of extremism. Despite a supposed ban on central government engagement with the Muslim Council of Britain, some departments, recently even a minister, continue to work with them.

Inside government and out, officials fear accusations of Islamophobia. The National Education Union has failed to defend the Yorkshire teacher, but its general secretary was happy to share a platform with Tahir Alam, instigator of the Trojan Horse plot and banned from schools in England, at events telling parents that Trojan Horse was a government conspiracy.

Elsewhere, the police are considering replacing terms like “Islamist terrorism” with euphemistic language, after secret consultations with groups they refuse to name. Notoriously, in countless child-grooming scandals the police and local authorities failed to act because, in the words of the Rotherham inquiry, they were “inhibited by the fear of affecting community relations”.

In all these cases and others, we are failing thanks to fear, naivety and cynical complicity. We are facing hardliners who want to define Islam in line with their own extremist beliefs, control public thought and conscience, and use our pluralistic values in order to destroy them. In Yorkshire and elsewhere, the danger is looking us straight in the face. It is time to stop being afraid.

Johnson 9:16 Mon Mar 29
Re: Peppa Pig Insults Islam
That’s a cartoon Swiss.

Go and research what the Koran says not what a spokesman says about a cartoon.

Swiss. 9:13 Mon Mar 29
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"A spokesperson for The Muslim Council of Britain said: ‘The majority of mainstream Muslims would not find Peppa Pig offensive, and anecdotally we know of many Muslim children who watch the show for its entertainment value. Those who do have issues with this can simply refrain from watching the show and purchasing Peppa Pig memorabilia.’


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Now can you bigoted, racist scumbags take your hatred somewhere else.

And you wonder why this site is dying

riosleftsock 9:11 Mon Mar 29
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Johnson

Strict adherents to the teachings of the Old Testament/Torah would also not eat pork.

The muslims just copied that from the Torah, like they did most of the koran, much like the OT did.

There was a very good reason for not eating pork, that reason no longer exists.

Johnson 9:08 Mon Mar 29
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Islam is not offended by pigs says The Swiss.

The Koran says it’s a sin to eat the flesh of the swine as Muslims should not eat it and they even extend that command to non-Muslims.


WHO TO BELIEVE?

joyo 9:04 Mon Mar 29
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Swiss is Islam offended by cartoons? What about cartoons of pigs? You seem to get offended by everything you sad little woke snowflake

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