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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 2:23 Tue Jul 17
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The essence of reflexive control is to get electorates to vote against their own interests and then insist institutions enforce the vote in the name of democracy.

The Kremlin has been at it since the 18th century, but the unions destroying British manufacturing and heavy industry is an example you should be able to relate to best.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:16 Tue Jul 17
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, 2:10 Tue Jul 17

So, you admit it. A narrow Remain win would allow you to kick the idea of leaving out 'for a generation'.

What a horrible anti-Democrat you are.

orwells tragedy 2:14 Tue Jul 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I must have missed the vote on the Common Market in 1978.

Dave Boozle 2:12 Tue Jul 17
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Moose, the irony is not so much the education of the people on the implications of leaving, moreover, as Russ pointed out below, the complete inability of MPs to deliver what they had voted for.

It's more of shame that there's no election now rather than talk of another referendum. MPs were elected based on a manifesto of leaving (both Labour and Tory) - were they now answerable to their constituents and threatened with losing their seat maybe they would be less selfish and more focused on delivering what they had promised.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:11 Tue Jul 17
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That article Quisling posted up is pure comedy gold. Definitely worth a read.

, 2:10 Tue Jul 17
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Ha, so democratic logic is now being called lefty logic.

My detractors know precisely what I'm on about and it's exercising the will of the majority. The electorate is an entity that churns.

So how democratic is it to hold a country to an action from from three years prior without being democratically certain that is what the changed electorate want?

This was not like the Scottish independence referendum which kicked the issue into the long grass for a generation.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:08 Tue Jul 17
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Dr Moose 2:06 Tue Jul 17

'I voted leave moron, '

No, you didn't.

Hammer and Pickle 2:06 Tue Jul 17
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Pound set to plumb new depths as JRM’s ERG scuppers the government’s customs negotiating position with the EU in Parliament - reflexive control set to become direct Kremlin control there for you on a plate. Have a nice holiday.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.poundsterlinglive.com/eur/9483-gbp-to-eur-exchange-rate-today-pressure-amidst-political-intrigue/amp

Dr Moose 2:06 Tue Jul 17
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:39 Tue Jul 17

I voted leave moron, but am level headed enough to see the advantages of a 2nd vote.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:04 Tue Jul 17
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No, Miike. You only vote again if it's a Leave result.

Takashi Miike 2:02 Tue Jul 17
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yes, after each vote you now have to consider the feelings three years later of the cunts who couldn't be bothered when the original vote took place. lefty logic at it's best

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:00 Tue Jul 17
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,

What happens if there's a close result again? We go again in two years or just if it's Leave again?

, 1:58 Tue Jul 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The democratic question is this, and it is a valid one because of the closeness of the June 2016 referendum,does leaving the EU represent the wish of the majority of the March 2019 electorate?

We should leave or remain in the EU in accordance with the will of the people at the time of the action. James Dyson had a very good point where to have left the EU within a short time of the leave result would have been a fait accompli.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:39 Tue Jul 17
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Dr Moose 1:14 Tue Jul 17'

Yes people can still express dissatisfaction at the result and protest as we are a democracy but to allow the Government (whomever it maybe) to negotiate leaving or revoking A50.'

So, you want another vote, but this time, if you win, the other side doesn't get another chance. So basically, the side that you agree with gets two bites at the cherry and Leave can go fuck themselves.

You lot can't help yourselves, can you?

13 Brentford Rd 1:26 Tue Jul 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
No, as I said any vote should be about the deal nothing else, YES to the deal or NO we leave with no deal.
The original result should be honoured. The question was Leave or Stay? Most knew the implications and that getting s good deal would not be easy. This was all pointed out relentlessly by Remain and our own government.
The question did not contain a vote again in two years time option once Remainers have sown enough doubt and confusion.

Dr Moose 1:14 Tue Jul 17
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Dave Boozle 12:37 Tue Jul 17

We are more educated on the implications of leaving (I've certainly learnt a lot more about the EU); a 2nd referendum is a good idea but both sides have to agree to respect the result and not undermine the process any further, we need a put up and shut up vote. Yes people can still express dissatisfaction at the result and protest as we are a democracy but to allow the Government (whomever it maybe) to negotiate leaving or revoking A50.

Side of Ham 1:04 Tue Jul 17
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Swiss. 12:55 Tue Jul 17

Dear oh dear Scouse, like racism you haven't a clue what a mugging off actually is.

Read your posts back to yourself and then tell us honestly you are happy where you are in life.

Your escapism posting is the best bit of self mugging off on here.

New Jersey 1:04 Tue Jul 17
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We should have done what James Dyson suggested, left immediately, adopted WTO rules and start negotiating from there.

The unelected EU officials doing the negotiating have no interest in having a fair deal as they want to punish us for leaving and deter others from following. A European free trade area would be great, but that's where it should stop.

13 Brentford Rd 12:59 Tue Jul 17
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If we had another referendum it should be on the final deal and nothing else. We voted to leave so that should still be the outcome, the option was stay or leave warts n all.
Either we adopt any final deal or leave with no deal.
The outcome should still be that we leave.
Disingenuous Remoaners are trying to push for another leave or stay vote based on the final deal or are wanting a third option of staying in as they claim we were all ignorant in the original vote but now we are better informed we should vote again.
They know any form of another referendum will probably result in us staying in due to the poor deal resulting in the doubt and confusion that they have caused.

Swiss. 12:55 Tue Jul 17
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Snide mugged again :-)

Swiss. 12:55 Tue Jul 17
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Snide

hahah..drivel. You think I give a fuck who does or doesn't like me on here?

How many people you met on here in person? Yeah none. Stop talking crap as you are embarrassing yourself again. Which ain't hard for you.

And please stop stalking me on other threads it's very immature.

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