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a. If e can stop being the masters of our own downfall we should take 3 points, win
74%
  
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8%
  
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10%
  
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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Kaiser Zoso 5:43 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
If I cared about your opinion, I’d ask why

I like the recent election results, the EU is a house of cards.

If they don’t recognise the need to reform now, then it’s going to end badly

, 4:57 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
First class bait but arrant nonsense.

Infidel 4:20 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I have to say, things are looking up.

First Brexit. Then Catalan independence. Now Austria.

The EU has its hands full coping with the free and democratic votes of independent citizens.

It won't be long before the EU abolishes elections and referendums. They're not in the interests of the Union, you see, they just encourage populists to go out and win votes by, er, making speeches to the electorate.

The big test though will be Italy next May. In the latest polls the pro-EU soft left PD has 25% of the vote but the three Eurosceptic parties - 5 Stelle, LegaNord and Forza Italia - are not far short of 60% together.

A coalition between these three isn't easy, given some of their other areas of disagreement, but certainly no more difficult than Cameron forming a coalition with the odious little hypocrite Clegg in 2010.

When Italy elects a Eurosceptic parliament next year all bets are off for the EU. Very tough to see how the EU could survive an Italian exit from the Euro followed by exit from the EU itself.

No doubt the EU is working on a scheme to have the Italian election declared illegal and send in a placeman to run the country under instructions from Brussels, as they did before with Mario Monti, one of their own, in 2011. This time the Italians won't put up with it.

The EU is crumbling, just as the Soviet Union did in the late 1980s, and for the same reason: authoritarian, anti-democratic and economically disastrous management coupled with a propaganda machine that pumps out endless good news stories and pictures of happy children holding hands as they walk into sunlit uplands.

The USSR found itself dealing with popular uprisings in the Polish shipyards, the streets of Prague and in fashionable circles in Petersburg.

The EU has UKIP, the Front National, AfD, Sverige Demokraterna, 5Star, DanskeFolkPartie and now Austria's People's Party.

I am going to enjoy the unravelling of this hideous construct. When the Commission finally shuts down I'll be there in Brussels with my hammer to smash a piece of the wall as a souvenir.

Willtell 10:26 Tue Oct 17
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Reply Hammer and Pickle 6:30 Mon Oct 16
"Either way, any increased profits from earning in the stronger currency are immediately swallowed up as you order further factors of production denominated in the stronger foreign currency. There is always a net outflow of value, which of course shows up on the balance of trade account."


You really are dumb H&P!

Most OEM car parts to the UK probably come from Asia rather than EU countries but the whole point of a devalued currency is that overseas purchases become expensive so the manufacturers look to source from UK made products.

All the while parts from overseas get more expensive it makes Britain better able to compete with home manufactured parts. Jobs for UK industry. It also means that EU cars become more expensive in the UK showrooms than the equivalent UK built cars.

So people will buy a cheaper UK built car than an equivalent EU built car. Or perhaps they make higher profits to invest again but either way it improves British competitiveness.

All the while in the EU the UK built cars are going to be cheaper to build and get in the same price in Euros but more in pounds - more profits to pay for increased costs.

Of course in the early stages imports go up in price and exports will follow on more slowly but it will happen all the while the pound stays at around £1 to €1.12. That is why UK is doing so well with car & engine building with exports rising very quickly... HTH

Hayzer 12:23 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Moi? I’m not the one that wants to start an argument about rape 🙄

Hammer and Pickle 12:20 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
You're so sad Hayzer.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:20 Tue Oct 17
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Hammer and Pickle 12:07 Tue Oct 17

Point out the inconsistency in that post and anything else I have posted.

I want actual inconsistencies though, not just a load of waffle.

Hayzer 12:17 Tue Oct 17
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Not if anyone can afford to buy what you’re selling due to an inflated exchange rate phwickle..

Hayzer 12:14 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Why would I wanna do that. The moneys shit that’s why they come here.

Hammer and Pickle 12:12 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Profitability and competitiveness are all about what happens when you have a strong currency like the euro, Zero.

Hammer and Pickle 12:07 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Maybe you are another Zero than you were @SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:09 Mon Oct 16

Progress is a funny thing.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:07 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Incidentally, profitability and competitiveness are not mutually exclusive. It's perfectly possible that a company might create such increased demand through lower prices that it would more than offset the lower profit per unit. Companies do it all the time.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:04 Tue Oct 17
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Westside 11:56 Mon Oct 16

I'm a bit puzzled then as to why you should post in opposition to me by repeating exactly what I said and agreeing with me.

Hammer and Pickle 12:02 Tue Oct 17
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Well Hayzer?

Chop chop.

Hammer and Pickle 11:56 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Coming over to Poland to plaster my house anytime, Hayzer?

Westside 11:56 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
If you want to get technical, a lower exchange rate means the UK's competitiveness is unaffected by imported and subsequently re-exported

If you bothered to read my post surface, I wasn't talking about imported components, but UK sourced components, for a manufacturer who then exports.

And I was pointing out that in such situations, a falling sterling value, does not reduce UK competitiveness. In fact, it increases it

Hayzer 11:54 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The Hi Karate after shave by any chance?

Hammer and Pickle 11:00 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Why would I care?

Are you a bit insecure about people washing, Ratched?

Nurse Ratched 10:33 Mon Oct 16
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Pickle - she's drying her hair? What did she need to wash out of it?

Hayzer 10:33 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Has the karate instructor finished plastering the Mrs face yet

Hammer and Pickle 10:28 Mon Oct 16
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Your firm plastered Johnson's gaff yet, Hayzer?

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