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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Mike Oxsaw 2:41 Wed Sep 26
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London to Reading is 11% of GWR

Gavros 1:53 Wed Sep 26
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British manufacturing is 11% of GVA

arsegrapes 1:25 Wed Sep 26
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Willtell serious question, would it be worth heating your swimming pool in the southern French climate where you are located to use in late Autumn, early Spring and occasional mild winters, or does the prohibitive installation/running costs of boiler/solar power outweigh the benifits, assuming not already heated?

orwells tragedy 12:34 Wed Sep 26
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Willtell 11:53 Tue Sep 25
"the people have to contribute to all medical treatment unlike the NHS!"

What's National insurance for?

Mike Oxsaw 11:58 Tue Sep 25
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Never mind all that WillTell.

Is your swimming pool a donkey or an elephant?

Willtell 11:53 Tue Sep 25
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Capitol Man 11:05

I love living in France but don't make up lies about why I chose to live there. You make yourself look the dumb fucker every time you lie so badly!

France is a capitalist country with a historic leaning to communism and the left. It still has a bigger population than UK and 3 times the landmass. Much of its industry is nationalised or skirts around EU laws because they make the rules up as they go along and I have had direct experience of that.

They are one of the few shipbuilding nations left because of government subsidy. They have the aerospace market cornered in Toulouse for the whole of Europe because they set it up that way at the start of the EU with bit parts dished out for late comers like UK...

They also have 3 large car makers that have all benefited by French state intervention yet have less manufacturing than UK - I believe it is 19% to UK's 20%. It sells a lot of farmed produce that Britain doesn't have the space or climate for including grain, dairy & cheeses, wines, Cognac, Armagnac and Champagne.

Yet it still has €1 trillion more debts than UK and around 10% unemployed. Too many regulations and too much social charges and taxes. There are more French bankers in London than in Paris and they are not socialists....

55% of France's GDP is accounted for by the government spending yet 9 million people are living below the poverty level and, the people have to contribute to all medical treatment unlike the NHS!

Gavros 11:47 Tue Sep 25
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That's an interesting read and from the looks of it it seems fairly easily solvable. If the EU were concerned anmbuut workers rights or environmental standards etc being lowered all the UK need to is guarantee in treaty that that will remain at the very least equivalent, to be decided by some third party. I also think the UK would be more than happy for most services to be rolled into the "goods only" single market, with only really legal and financial services, which we would anyway arguably want to stay separate, outside.

Crassus 11:43 Tue Sep 25
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The Irish border - irrespective of whatever political intent or action, there will never be a 'real border' unless we turn up Trump style and build a fuck off great wall and that ain't happening

Porous is not the word since the inception of the North

I have plenty of commercial connections both north and south and the view is unanimous, life goes on as it always has -irrespective

Mike Oxsaw 11:27 Tue Sep 25
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Queens Fish Bar 11:20 Tue Sep 25

A virtual border will be rolled out.

Just because people have an idea that a border has to be exactly like they learned about in school (men in peaked caps strutting up and down like little Hitlers, confiscating everything) doesn't mean that the solution will, or has to, look like that.

Queens Fish Bar 11:20 Tue Sep 25
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EU open to free trade but not Chequers customs plan: document

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-chequers-exclusive/exclusive-eu-open-to-free-trade-but-not-chequers-customs-plan-document-idUSKCN1M524K

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - EU negotiators are ready to offer Theresa May a free-trade area after Brexit but say that, contrary to her “Chequers” plan, there must be a customs border that will make trade less than “frictionless”, according to an internal EU document seen by Reuters on Tuesday.

riosleftsock 11:18 Tue Sep 25
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Gavros 10:59 Tue Sep 25
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wow a poll where 20% favour no deal.

BMG Brexit poll (don’t knows excluded):
Canada style 28%
Leaving on WTO 24%
Staying in the EU 20%
Chequers 14%
Norway-Style 13%
A clear majority for Canada+++ or WTO terms.

Intersting that you ignore the fact that when presented with all options, only 20% want to stay in the eu.

Willtell 11:18 Tue Sep 25
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That's fucking rubbish Capitol Mong. You are a lying prick so fuck off back to your Washington care home for mongs...

Mike Oxsaw 11:17 Tue Sep 25
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Capitol Man 11:05 Tue Sep 25

Utter bilge.

I can and have lived under military dictatorships, countries where Shariah law dominates, communist regimes, states under economic siege and probably every other colour of political hue, and had a bloody good time in all of them.

The high level academic politics had absolutely no bearing on my life - I could do what I was asked to do equally well under all of them.

I don't see why it should be any different for somebody who's politics I don't agree with.

Capitol Man 11:05 Tue Sep 25
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Mike Oxsaw 10:59 Tue Sep 25
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Not really Cock.

It's a fundamental point here that Willtell makes against his own argument.

He argues that Socialism doesn't work, yet he has actively embraced it in his own life because it offers him a better lifestyle and he can live better there than in the UK.

That very fact means socialism is working, in at least one major way, the conditions it creates for those living under it.

He can bleat on with anecdote after anecdote about failed companies, but from my memory the French are more productive and it has maintained more of its industrial base than the UK.

It has also maintained a similar GDP than the UK despite maintaining a more socialist stance than the UK.

You may call it "attacking the messenger", but it is more a fundamental point that all Willtell's geriatric ramblings can't avoid.

Mike Oxsaw 10:59 Tue Sep 25
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Hmmm.

About time someone had a pop at the messenger because they don't like the message, I reckon. Overdue in my opinion.

Gavros 10:59 Tue Sep 25
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wow a poll where 20% favour no deal.

this is exactly why the general public is unqualified to make a decision of this complexity.

Hammer and Pickle 10:57 Tue Sep 25
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I wager all those northern constituencies are just looking for a strong leader like JRM.

Innit.

Gavros 10:56 Tue Sep 25
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what one's that?

Crassus 10:55 Tue Sep 25
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Hammer and Pickle 9:19 Tue Sep 25
How is he going to arrive white night stylee - I am genuinely curious me old bean.

Well I suggest that he has been the most successful British politician since Blair. He took a pressure group concept that hit the nations nerve and articulated that to Brexit.

Opinions of him are irrelevent, he speaks well and appeals to the regular voter disenfranchised by conventional politicians

Sound thinking voters will struggle to find a box to tick at the next election, the three major parties are an outright fucking disgrace to their respective heritage, the Scotchers and Micks are doing themselves no favours in the nations bread basket - England

Pretty straight forward really Picks

riosleftsock 10:47 Tue Sep 25
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Gavros

Polls are not really there to reflect what's happening. You know that, they are there to influence.

Have you seen the Huffington post poll?

Mike Oxsaw 10:44 Tue Sep 25
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The Guardian? What's their editorial take on leaving? Same as the Independent?

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