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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
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Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 5:06 Tue Dec 12
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Like I said - no benefits for you whatsoever.

Now fuck off - you have nothing to offer this site.

Mike Oxsaw 5:00 Tue Dec 12
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Gavros 4:52 Tue Dec 12

How you enjoying that jap's eye full of ash & Scottish mud?

Johnson 4:58 Tue Dec 12
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The benefits?

OK but for the benefit of the board not Johnson.

1.) Access to cheaper capital than at any time in human history.

No relevance to the man on the street

2.) Purchasing power and standards of living unknown in human history.

Nothing to say this can't happen outside of EU

3.) Stability and an institutional structure for resolving national level conflicts and problems offering peace and freedom from war unknown in human history.

No wars successfully solved by the EU EVER. No one in Europe even contemplating war with each other.

4.) Cross border movement free from bureaucratic encumberments like visas unknown in human history.

Largest surface area of terrorist threat as a result, problems with overcrowding in prisons, schools, hospitals in the UK. All caused by the above.

5.) A tariff-free common market of a size and negotiating power unknown in human history.

Takes forever to negotiate with the "block" the UK can still trade with it. The EU single market should also not be considered tariff-free due to things like number 4.

6.) Freedom from power abuses by self-interested national groups unknown in human history.

Open to abuse from centralised unelected entities.


So, no, not a single tangible benefit there that only the EU can offer Thickle.

Would you like to try again?

Gavros 4:52 Tue Dec 12
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OK.

And im getting a nosh off of YOUR MUM.

Mike Oxsaw 4:51 Tue Dec 12
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See that man in the street, Gavros? That's YOU, that is.

Gavros 4:42 Tue Dec 12
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the man in the street is a fucking idiot whos unable to see the obvious benefits that things like that bring. hence why we are where we are.

Mike Oxsaw 4:35 Tue Dec 12
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Care to list what those benefits are to the man in the street?

Hammer and Pickle 4:34 Tue Dec 12
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The benefits?

OK but for the benefit of the board not Johnson.

1.) Access to cheaper capital than at any time in human history.
2.) Purchasing power and standards of living unknown in human history.
3.) Stability and an institutional structure for resolving national level conflicts and problems offering peace and freedom from war unknown in human history.
4.) Cross border movement free from bureaucratic encumberments like visas unknown in human history.
5.) A tariff-free common market of a size and negotiating power unknown in human history.
6.) Freedom from power abuses by self-interested national groups unknown in human history.

Anyone with anything to offer be it in the form of a business proposition or any creativity or motivation will of course appreciate these advantages.

Gavros 4:23 Tue Dec 12
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Being in the worlds largest free trade area?

That's quite a big benefit.

Its why WE (ie the British) created the Single Market in the first place.

Johnson 4:19 Tue Dec 12
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But I do, my taxes fund other countries.

Now, you harp on about people ignoring the benefits of being in the EU, how about you actually list out what these are please.

Hammer and Pickle 4:17 Tue Dec 12
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Nothing for you, Johnson.

You need to put something in to get anything out.

Johnson 4:15 Tue Dec 12
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Other than people on the ponce, what does the EU have to offer, Thickle?

Hammer and Pickle 4:12 Tue Dec 12
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Come on face it - this whole Brexit thing has been one massive anti-EU disinformation campaign swallowed by the section of the vote least motivated to take advantage of anything the EU has to offer.

That’s fair enough but it is no reason to turn the country into an international laughing-stock and an economic basket case, which it would be if the Brexit vote had its way and the UK ended up outside the SM.

Westside 4:12 Tue Dec 12
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Fancy fleshing out what exactly this “tax on us” actually entails?

VAT for a start.Minimum and maximum rates are set by the EU.

This is why there is VAT on domestic power bills. This raises billions for the UK government. Helps fund our EC levy.

Of courses, once we have left the EU, I'm not expecting any government to reduce this rate to zero, but they would be able to do so.

Hammer and Pickle 3:57 Tue Dec 12
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Fancy fleshing out what exactly this “tax on us” actually entails? As in what it is in relation to GNP and what it actually does?

Toe Rag 3:51 Tue Dec 12
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Yes, tax is such an ugly word, let’s call it a “contribution”.

Hammer and Pickle 3:47 Tue Dec 12
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Merkel might be a disaster but she can’t agree to give anything that isn’t her’s to give. And that includes visa-free access to Schengen.

Come on chaps, at least try to get a grip.

Mike Oxsaw 3:43 Tue Dec 12
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Gavros 3:16 Tue Dec 12

So, from whom do they get their money, then?

Gavros 3:16 Tue Dec 12
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"ability to raise taxes on us"

haha

Toe Rag 3:13 Tue Dec 12
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“ever closer union” has been the idea since 1957.

They’ve got their own parliament, flag, national anthem, ability to raise taxes on us all and they badly want their own army.

Perish the thought that they might be building an empire though.

Toe Rag 3:13 Tue Dec 12
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“ever closer union” has been the idea since 1957.

They’ve got their own parliament, flag, national anthem, ability to raise taxes on us all and they badly want their own army.

Perish the thought that they might be building an empire though.

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