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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:04 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Mike Oxsaw 7:58 Mon Jun 25

Mike

H&P is now claiming that a) you are an alki who simply MUST have those 5 pints and that b) You are unprepared to switch to one of those nice British craft lagers whose price will be unchanged or one of those splendid non-EU lagers whose price will rise by less than the Belgian one.

So, in fact, in the real world, it's very possible that the Belgians will now sell zero pints.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:00 Mon Jun 25
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Hammer and Pickle 7:51 Mon Jun 25

'That all depends on the elasticity of demand for said imported goods Zero,'

Ooh goodie, Chapter 2.. So you are claiming without any evidence whatsoever that all EU made goods are price inelastic whilst all UK goods are price-elastic. How convenient!!!

'and given you accept the rate of exchange will deteriorate with Brexit,'

Firstly, I don't, and secondly the exchange rate will have to fall by more than the EU tariffs currently imposed by ourselves as members. So, in the case of food exports, for example, the EU is fucked.

Mike Oxsaw 7:58 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Hmmm, so if I go into my local bar and Belgium beer is currently 4 pound a pint, for my 20 quid I can get 5 pints, and the Belgium brewer has exported 5 pints of beer to the UK and the UK has paid him for 5 pints.

If there is a 1 pound tariff applied to pints of beer from the EU, my 20 pounds now only buys 4 pints of Belgium beer and the Belgian brewer now only gets paid for 4 pints, so, unless someone can point out the glaring error, imports of Belgium beer have dropped by 25%, and more money stays in the UK.

Plus, my liver gets a reprieve, which is an unexpected Brexit bonus.

Hammer and Pickle 7:51 Mon Jun 25
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That all depends on the elasticity of demand for said imported goods Zero, and given you accept the rate of exchange will deteriorate with Brexit, the price of all imports will rise, not just those from the EU.

You really need to get out from behind that excel spreadsheet and get into producing things people actually want to buy fella.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:51 Mon Jun 25
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Gav. You seem not to understand simple arithmetic.

The tariffs charged on the goods are not proportionate. The EU is charging the US 1.96% and the US is charging the EU 1.64%.

But I suspect you knew that already.

Gavros 7:40 Mon Jun 25
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That is remarkably dumb zero son.

If there are tariffs and one party imports more than the other, it'll pay more in tariffs. That is always and everywhere going to be the case.

Where do you get this shit from?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:40 Mon Jun 25
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Hammer and Pickle 7:19 Mon Jun 25

Um, well, the UK, being a net importer, will be imposing more tariffs on its goods than the EU, a nett exporter.

Therefore the price rise of goods from the EU in the UK will dissuade more buyers than will the price rises of UK goods in the EU. Thus reducing the trade deficit.

Of course, any meltdown in the currency, as predicted by, um, you, will further accelerate this narrowing of the deficit.

It's not tricky H&P. It's all in Chapter 2, perhaps you haven't got that far yet?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:35 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Gavros 7:15 Mon Jun 25

'The two balance out.'

They don't balance out. In 2015 the US exported EUR 249 billion worth of goods (at today's exchange rate) to the EU and was hit with tariffs of EUR 4.9 bio.

By contrast, the EUR exported EUR 371 billion worth of goods to the US and was subject to EUR 6.1 bio of tariffs in return.

In order for the tariffs to be equal, the US would need to increase their tariffs by EUR 1.2 billion.

So, the weightings are a load of bollocks.

Hammer and Pickle 7:19 Mon Jun 25
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The idea that Brexit will somehow reduce with the UK/EU deficit is worthy of exploration.

How's that going to work out then Zero?

Gavros 7:16 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
trade *deficit*


Of course you do know all this but you just fancy a row.

Gavros 7:15 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
every country sets their tariffs to 'protect' industries that can lobby hardest for them. The EU may have higher tariffs on one good, but its reciprocated with a higher US tariff on another good. The two balance out. The only way to make it 'fairer' is to eliminate all tariffs. Still this will not solve the issue of the US running a trade surplus because it a structural issue related to the US having the global reserve currency and deepest debt market.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:11 Mon Jun 25
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Gavros 7:03 Mon Jun 25

'The EU's weighted tariff rate is 1.6%'

Why is the weighted tariff the measure we should look at? If the cash duties being paid excessively favour one party, then clearly the weightings are wrong. And clearly the side who benefits will cry, 'yes, but look at the weighted tariffs'.

Gavros 7:03 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The EU's weighted tariff rate is 1.6%, not 10%. Bullshit has to be called out.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/TM.TAX.MRCH.WM.AR.ZS

Gavros 6:52 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
amazing how much people hate the EU that makes them able to brazenly lie about it.

Prometheus50 12:57 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
classic statement just released by the EU Commssion

* GREEK DEBT NOW SUSTAINABLE IN BASELINE SCENARIO (whatever that is)

but topped by

* GREEK DEBT TO GDP RATIO TO DROP TO 96%/98% IN 2060

2060 ???

the last eastender 12:26 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Mashed

Where you been hiding? We're you banned?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:24 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
REBALANCED ECONOMY

mashed in maryland 12:14 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
PURCHASING POWER

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:20 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Hammer and Pickle 11:06 Mon Jun 25

'a.) don't know what a trade deficit implies for their purchasing power once outside the single market'

Good thing, then, that we are leaving the EU which will tend to reduce the UK/EU deficit.

Prometheus50 11:18 Mon Jun 25
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Capitol Man

On the US/EU trade war, have you noticed the EU seem reluctant to let the WTO decide the legitimacy of the US action ?

Back in 2003, George W Bush attempted to slap tariffs on EU goods, but the EU let the WTO decide, which they did in the EU's favour, because there was at that time no evidence to support the US claim that the EU had any sort of advantage

Since then, the US trade deficit with the EU has widened by over 800%, and this is turn was assisted by the EU's own (justified) tariffs on Chinese steel.

You'll notice that there are ongoing negotiations between China and the US which may or may not lead to an agreement But the EU simply retaliated with its own additional measures despite charge the standard CET of 10% on US imports whilst crying foul on the proposed 2.5% tariff on EU exports to the US

The problem is, as more are becoming increasingly aware, that the EU customs union is a protectionist area and the EU will not even discuss areas such as food and clothing even though its behaviour here is as bad if not worse than China's dumping cheap steel

So a trade war between the US and EU looks increasingly likely and I would say the EU is on no shape to take them on

Hammer and Pickle 11:06 Mon Jun 25
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
You clearly believe the people you are talking to

a.) don't know what a trade deficit implies for their purchasing power once outside the single market

and

b.) are stupid enough to believe the EU is going to be in any way "disrupted" by a Brexit in which the UK doesn't take exactly what it is offered by the EU in the exit process.

Anyway, you'd better hope it's not a no-deal scenario because it's your shitty political career on the line, cuntchops.

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