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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 3:47 Tue Dec 12
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Merkel might be a disaster but she can’t agree to give anything that isn’t her’s to give. And that includes visa-free access to Schengen.

Come on chaps, at least try to get a grip.

Mike Oxsaw 3:43 Tue Dec 12
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Gavros 3:16 Tue Dec 12

So, from whom do they get their money, then?

Gavros 3:16 Tue Dec 12
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"ability to raise taxes on us"

haha

Toe Rag 3:13 Tue Dec 12
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“ever closer union” has been the idea since 1957.

They’ve got their own parliament, flag, national anthem, ability to raise taxes on us all and they badly want their own army.

Perish the thought that they might be building an empire though.

Toe Rag 3:13 Tue Dec 12
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“ever closer union” has been the idea since 1957.

They’ve got their own parliament, flag, national anthem, ability to raise taxes on us all and they badly want their own army.

Perish the thought that they might be building an empire though.

Gavros 3:09 Tue Dec 12
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And do try to remember that the UK is not part of the Schengen area and never was going to be. In other words, it wont become any easier for Turks to come to the UK regardless.

Gavros 3:07 Tue Dec 12
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One person said it. One.

The visa thing is another piece of stupidity out of Berlin. In order to get them to keep hold of Syrians in Turkey, the turks demanded visa-free access to Schengen. Merkel being the disaster she has been agreed. There's still a number of hurdles to it though.

Willtell 2:41 Tue Dec 12
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Russ of the BML 1:36
Yes but that's bollocks Russ and you know it.

The talk of the USofE by 2025 only happened last week so clearly that wasn't known 18 months ago. As for Turkey that was being denied, as was the EU army and Turkish access, 18 months ago.

You might pat yourself on the back as being wise but, you are the one that before the weekend was saying that Moyes was a disaster....

Mike Oxsaw 2:17 Tue Dec 12
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Gavros 2:07 Tue Dec 12

I can happily live with your assessment - it carries about as much as your vote on it.

Gavros 2:07 Tue Dec 12
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OK mate.

Its really a silly job arguing with someone like you who clearly knows fuck all about the subject.

Mike Oxsaw 2:06 Tue Dec 12
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Gavros 1:53 Tue Dec 12

Don't be too hard on yourself, Gavvy-Wavvy - we all have to learn from our mistakes somehow.

Hammer and Pickle 1:53 Tue Dec 12
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Sorry Russ - I missed out "reform of"

So Turkey has to progress to reform of pretty much everything political and institutional to meet the asking standards of EU membership. Failure to understand this is failure to understand both the EU and Turkey today as Gavros has pointed out.

Gavros 1:53 Tue Dec 12
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Thick as Mince

Mike Oxsaw 1:50 Tue Dec 12
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Turkey's position gives it access to the rather large markets of the Middle East.

Having millions of poor Turks scrambling across Europe to parasite the country they can best ponce off (guess who) is a price big business is well prepared to pay for (easier/cheaper) access to such markets.

neilalex 1:48 Tue Dec 12
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Cheeses - I think you make your position clear, that your agreement to one thing is contingent on something else happening, if that is the case. My understanding is that the EU understood the 'settlement' to be non contingent on what was or wasn't negotiated regarding trade. You either have a binding commitment or you don't. The EU's response - ie. to now require that everything is made legally binding - simply restates the position that they would have always believed to have been the case.

May and Davis are literally contorting themselves as they seek to appease the different factions they're dealing with. It's not particularly edifying. They need to really decide what their bottom line position is and stick to it regardless of the political fall out. Unless you know that going into a negotiation, you're a bit fucked.

Gavros 1:47 Tue Dec 12
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also betrays a total lack of understanding of Turkey.

the country has gone so far backward since negotiations formally started (2005) they may as well apply again (1987).

Russ of the BML 1:46 Tue Dec 12
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Hammer and Pickle 1:43 Tue Dec 12

That doesn't actually make sense. Please explain again.

Hammer and Pickle 1:43 Tue Dec 12
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Anyone who swallows the notion that Turkey will ever be an EU member without massive progress towards pretty much everything political and institutional betrays a total lack of understanding of the EU.

Fucking hell.

Russ of the BML 1:36 Tue Dec 12
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Willtell 11:14 Tue Dec 12

The fuck you on about?

What? 18 months ago you never knew of the EU plans for the US of E, the EU army and Brussels being the tax administration centre for the US of E???

Fucking hell. And you tell me to keep up. You talk fucking shit.

And by the way I voted out.... Because I knew stuff like that 18 months ago. Keep up.

cheeses cruyf 1:31 Tue Dec 12
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So what do we do then? Sign that and pike over 40 billion and then get no trade deal?

I thought nothing was agreed until everything was agreed?

cheeses cruyf 1:31 Tue Dec 12
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So what do we do then? Sign that and pike over 40 billion and then get no trade deal?

I thought nothing was agreed until everything was agreed?

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