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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Spandex Sidney 10:55 Mon Dec 18
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I had a UKIP leaflet through my door today saying i'm being betrayed by our government of the EU withdrawal.

So here's a question to you knowledgeable lot. Who's UKIP?

Gavros 9:24 Mon Dec 18
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and idiots stay idiots.

Nurse Ratched 9:09 Mon Dec 18
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"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.”

Hammer and Pickle 4:49 Mon Dec 18
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Zero is too good at Zeronomics to pay anything.

zebthecat 4:48 Mon Dec 18
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:43 Mon Dec 18

I don't think you have been paying attention

Gavros 4:46 Mon Dec 18
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Good point Gavros son!

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Gavros 4:45 Mon Dec 18
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Not if the rebels rebel again.

not that they will, the government have already caved in with the extension of withdrawal date clause.

i wonder why they would include that ???????

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:43 Mon Dec 18
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Except with the aid of the Unionists it does have enough votes to get its bills through Parliament, doesn't it?

So that's both Gav and you making shit up within minutes.

Hammer and Pickle 4:35 Mon Dec 18
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UK government retains all the formal powers required to negotiate a new relationship with the EU. But this one doesn't have the power of real legitimacy because it doesn't have the required majority of seats to pass its bills through parliament, hence the need for a general election well before 2019 is out.

That is how it works in a proper democracy.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:33 Mon Dec 18
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A bit unfair of you to bring up actual facts there, Johnson.

Cony Tottee 4:33 Mon Dec 18
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Hammer and Pickle 4:25 Mon Dec 18

So Poland has an abundance of 'thick peasants'?

Haven't you previously told us how clever Polish people are and that we should be happy to have them over here?

Johnson 4:29 Mon Dec 18
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I thought Parliament voted on submitting Article 50 Gavvy, you know all that Gina Miller shit or did you forget that happened.

Side of Ham 4:28 Mon Dec 18
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the last eastender 12:42 Mon Dec 18

So they may give Poland a miss, and if it wasn't for the Yanks having investment there the EU would do their usual fuck all which was entirely my point.Add in there's plenty of more Eastern European countries the Russians could take liberties with that the EU don't really
give a fuck about hence they are still poor nations and under invested in.

Hammer and Pickle 4:25 Mon Dec 18
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Anyway, you can believe the EU is 27 members ruled by a rod of iron by the Brussels bureaucrats all you like - it won't get you anywhere near an understanding of how the terms of cooperation at EU level are negotiated. Fuck me, you won't even have a clue that while there is a broad consensus on working out a system for sharing migrants among the more institutionally solid old democracies of the old West, levels of cooperation of this kind are proving beyond that of post-Soviet bloc cases like Poland, Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Hungary, where sovereignty is seen in terms of being awkward and gaining the abundant thicko peasant vote.

Hammer and Pickle 4:15 Mon Dec 18
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The Polish government of nationalist numbnuts appeals to a brainwashed peasant electorate that sees national sovereignty in exactly those terms, Johnson.

Well done again - have another acorn.

Gavros 4:12 Mon Dec 18
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, 3:15 Mon Dec 18
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Stavros 3.04, the UK government has no democratic mandate to unilaterally withdraw notice of A50.


There's no democratic mandate for issuing Article 50 either, because Parliament, which is Sovereign, hasnt voted for Brexit. As such Article 50 is constitutionally speaking, invalid.


Dr Moose 3:20 Mon Dec 18
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Reply Gavros 3:04 Mon Dec 18

Wouldn't the EU add on that we'd have to accept the Euro and Schengen?


Nope.

Johnson 4:09 Mon Dec 18
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Are you just trying to avoid answering with an admission that the EU is forcing Poland to do something it doesn't want to do?

Which unsurprisingly, will render your previous bollocks about the local sovereign state taking precedence over EU rule as exactly that...bollocks.

Hammer and Pickle 3:51 Mon Dec 18
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Because, as is clear to anyone with a functioning brain, you are not ready to accept any answer with which you don’t agree.

Now fuck off.

Johnson 3:46 Mon Dec 18
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Why is it disingenuous and redundant?

Hammer and Pickle 3:28 Mon Dec 18
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Read my last answer and you will see your question is both disingenuous and redundant.

That’s quite an achievement Johnson. Have an acorn.

Johnson 3:25 Mon Dec 18
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So do you think that is what Poland are facing?

How does that tie in with your incorrect assertion about the EU not telling member states to do anything they do not want to do?

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