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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Side of Ham 3:23 Tue Jul 17
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Your the one with huff and puff and feet stamping going on, he VOTED you div and got the result he wanted, you didn't and just LIE on this subject because you have a sad minority agenda that probably made you leave here in the first place.

Hammer and Pickle 3:19 Tue Jul 17
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Tacky

The fact you don’t give a toss what happens to the country in the event of bad Brexit is exactly the hand of the Kremlin working in you - that and you expecting the government to do it for you or you’ll huff and puff and stamp your feet like the pathetic little man you are.

Side of Ham 3:13 Tue Jul 17
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You mean like the EU has changed so much since the original referendum to take us into it in the first place, it has ended up with an out vote as it's changed into something your average UK voter doesn't directly benefit from? In fact they feel it's now of detriment to them like in many other EU member states too, even though it may do some good for them that one.......what a fuck up it is through greed.

The EU wants it all one way just like they want this Brexit one way which again proves they are not ready to give a shit what the actual citizens want within agrieved countries, just blanket rule with what the Germans and French think is right for them.

Like i've said before we're a small land mass being dictated to on things big land mass countries like Germany and France do not understand nor want to as has been the historic case for centuries.

ALL this could have been solved if the fat cat countries spread their wealth and business into the poorer nations in order so they don't feel they have to migrate to get a decent wage with career prospects it would make the EU a true force instead of certain states just getting slave labour.

Takashi Miike 3:10 Tue Jul 17
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narrow votes wouldn't have mattered if you cunts had won. sadly I wasn't old enough to vote when the nonce took us in to the bloated protection racket/United States of Germany but I'm more vote leave now than I was two years ago and it has fuck all to do with the Kremlin

Russ of the BML 3:09 Tue Jul 17
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*say

Russ of the BML 3:08 Tue Jul 17
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Swiss. 11:52 Tue Jul 17

Something that cannot be practically implemented??

Really? Where is your evidence? It can be implemented quite easily. And you know it can. And you see we are naïve twats.

And why get abusive.... Again. You really do show your true colours on this thread I am afraid to say. A spiteful and bitter buffoon.

Russ of the BML 3:08 Tue Jul 17
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Swiss. 11:52 Tue Jul 17

Something that cannot be practically implemented??

Really? Where is your evidence? It can be implemented quite easily. And you know it can. And you see we are naïve twats.

And why get abusive.... Again. You really do show your true colours on this thread I am afraid to say. A spiteful and bitter buffoon.

, 2:58 Tue Jul 17
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Actually my point is that narrow votes settle only immediate issues. When what is voted on takes several years to enact there is the fact that the electorate changes over time such that the body of opinion can change..

But you know that was my point anyway.

Any do you think that in March 2019, when we leave the EU, that action represents the will of its then electorate?

As regards the Scottish independence referendum as the result went it put the question to bed for a referendum.

Hammer and Pickle 2:23 Tue Jul 17
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The essence of reflexive control is to get electorates to vote against their own interests and then insist institutions enforce the vote in the name of democracy.

The Kremlin has been at it since the 18th century, but the unions destroying British manufacturing and heavy industry is an example you should be able to relate to best.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:16 Tue Jul 17
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, 2:10 Tue Jul 17

So, you admit it. A narrow Remain win would allow you to kick the idea of leaving out 'for a generation'.

What a horrible anti-Democrat you are.

orwells tragedy 2:14 Tue Jul 17
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I must have missed the vote on the Common Market in 1978.

Dave Boozle 2:12 Tue Jul 17
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Moose, the irony is not so much the education of the people on the implications of leaving, moreover, as Russ pointed out below, the complete inability of MPs to deliver what they had voted for.

It's more of shame that there's no election now rather than talk of another referendum. MPs were elected based on a manifesto of leaving (both Labour and Tory) - were they now answerable to their constituents and threatened with losing their seat maybe they would be less selfish and more focused on delivering what they had promised.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:11 Tue Jul 17
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That article Quisling posted up is pure comedy gold. Definitely worth a read.

, 2:10 Tue Jul 17
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Ha, so democratic logic is now being called lefty logic.

My detractors know precisely what I'm on about and it's exercising the will of the majority. The electorate is an entity that churns.

So how democratic is it to hold a country to an action from from three years prior without being democratically certain that is what the changed electorate want?

This was not like the Scottish independence referendum which kicked the issue into the long grass for a generation.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:08 Tue Jul 17
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Dr Moose 2:06 Tue Jul 17

'I voted leave moron, '

No, you didn't.

Hammer and Pickle 2:06 Tue Jul 17
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Pound set to plumb new depths as JRM’s ERG scuppers the government’s customs negotiating position with the EU in Parliament - reflexive control set to become direct Kremlin control there for you on a plate. Have a nice holiday.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.poundsterlinglive.com/eur/9483-gbp-to-eur-exchange-rate-today-pressure-amidst-political-intrigue/amp

Dr Moose 2:06 Tue Jul 17
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:39 Tue Jul 17

I voted leave moron, but am level headed enough to see the advantages of a 2nd vote.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:04 Tue Jul 17
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No, Miike. You only vote again if it's a Leave result.

Takashi Miike 2:02 Tue Jul 17
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yes, after each vote you now have to consider the feelings three years later of the cunts who couldn't be bothered when the original vote took place. lefty logic at it's best

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 2:00 Tue Jul 17
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,

What happens if there's a close result again? We go again in two years or just if it's Leave again?

, 1:58 Tue Jul 17
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The democratic question is this, and it is a valid one because of the closeness of the June 2016 referendum,does leaving the EU represent the wish of the majority of the March 2019 electorate?

We should leave or remain in the EU in accordance with the will of the people at the time of the action. James Dyson had a very good point where to have left the EU within a short time of the leave result would have been a fait accompli.

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