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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 8:26 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Sure, it means this nonsense about freedom of movement being a punishment can be dropped for a start.

Lee Trundle 8:24 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The NI/Ire border issue is by far more of a problem for the EU than it is for the UK.

New Jersey 8:24 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
But surely we wouldn't fall back on the WTO rules, as the UK government could allow free trade from the EU and instruct the UK border agency only to make checks for security reasons. So goods from the EU are just waved through at the border. It would seem a bit stupid for the EU to insist the UK border agency had to check EU goods entering the UK.


That would be good for both sides and put pressure on the EU to do the same.

Hammer and Pickle 8:13 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
It's about to get even cheaper.

joe royal 8:07 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
“everything in NI cheaper than it is in Eire.”

It already is.

Gavros 7:58 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
a customs border

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 7:31 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
There is a border. What sort of border does WTO specify, Gav?

Mike Oxsaw 6:33 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Without a "Trump style" wall or fence, you're simply not going to stop cross-border traffic that includes a certain amount of smuggling.

The solution is to clearly identify the origin of goods coming into NI and apply and the relevant levy, scot, tax or tariff there - or simply make absolutely everything in NI cheaper than it is in Eire.

Gavros 6:30 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
under WTO rules (which some berks on here think they love) you HAVE to have a border between countries that are not in the same market. The UK would be prosecutable under those rules if it didnt put up a border. Same for the EU.

New Jersey 6:28 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I'm not trying to make a point either way, but concerning the Northern Ireland 'problem' why can't the British government say we won't have custom checks on goods from EU countries entering NI from Eire? If, particularly, we adopt the common rule book, which I can understand why the EU insist on this.

Mike Oxsaw 6:22 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The Tories simply don't want Brexit on their watch. They've far too many direct and indirect vested interests in remaining.

Labour should really be against it, too, as it fundamentally undermines the wealth creating capabilities of their traditional core supporters - in general, that support doesn't want an EU funded National Park or by-pass, it just wants to earn a living wage.

The last election was clearly all about trying to drop the Brexit baby onto Labour's lap.

boltkunt 6:15 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The Tories will end up losing more seats and an hung parliament is much more likely!

Mike Oxsaw 6:14 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
In/Out is binary. You can'y be "a bit in", or "73% out" - it's 100% either way; I suspect some still don't/won't/cant accept that simple fact of life.

Given that the UK voted for out, that has to be made to work, but any compromises cannot veer towards any of the "in attributes"; the EU itself (All hail! All hail! The mighty EU!) have said as much.

So the changes have to come in the areas that are not compatible with a 100% commitment either way. Sometimes that requires creative thinking to come up with a solution.

Gavros 6:06 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The EU have proposed a system where on SPS (organic stuff) checks are needed in the sea. All other regulatory checks are done prior to goods being shifted. This cause may to melt down last week after the DUP kaiboshed it, but looks like she's working up something more subtle to get past them. Also one of the reasons the torie have been talking about a new election - in order to try to get a majority so they arent beholden to the DUP.

boltkunt 6:03 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
There will be also significant security presence at the boarder, Gavros son.

This will not be accepted by the Irish.

Gavros 6:00 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
it will work if the UK accepts checks on a BOAT.

boltkunt 5:57 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The canada deal won't work due to the border issues with IRE/Ni.

Dr Moose 5:56 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Gavros 5:02 Mon Sep 24

I can foresee a hung parliament as May would go into a GE as leader due to the length of the process to replace her. A complete mess, now is time for a Canada+ deal to be negotiated.

, 5:11 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
God forbid we have another GE before time.Under our inadequate and truly unrepresentative democratic Westminster system ( unlike the Scottish Parliament and Welsh assembly which are both PR based ) there is no need for one and I reckon the general public do not see the need for one.

May and her motley crew must simply soldier on to the end of the natural Parliamentary time.

Gavros 5:02 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
A precursor assuming we were going into another election would be that May were replaced, likely by a brexiter who would advocate a Canada deal.In that case Labour would maintain its "Brexit but CU and SM access" nonsense and would in normal circumstances win at a canter. That's made much more difficult of course by having Corbyn as leader.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:51 Mon Sep 24
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
There are three imponderables (at least)

1) How many more -arch-Remainers can the Lib Dems attrcact (if any). Or will they in fact lose some.
2) How many votes will UKIP take from Labour and the Tories
3) How well have Scottish Unionists learnt the 'vote tactically against the SNP' game. Will they get wiped out or attract all the EU Remainers. Or split them with the Lib Dems.

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