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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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BRANDED 2:23 Wed Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Including the 10 bankers down my street from France?

boltkunt 2:16 Wed Sep 26
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IT's two fold, being within the EU and having freedom of movement along with Labour who allowed any cunt to come in under Blair.

master 2:09 Wed Sep 26
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control and balance. having it is good, losing it is bad.

Gavros 2:02 Wed Sep 26
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Side of Ham 1:43 Wed Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron

youve just basically describe what happened in terms of migration to the new world over the past two and a half centuries, and europe hasnt depopulated yet. Its a totally moot point as well - people will always move around to work. Successful economies will always attract workers. That's what the UK was until quite recently. When you lot were asked a question you had no ability whatsoever to answer.

Gavros 1:57 Wed Sep 26
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"It's a read shame the EU insists that EU citizens can't be treated differently to UK citizens when it come to the NHS"

that's simply not true, at least for people who arent working here.

master 1:54 Wed Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
*institution

master 1:54 Wed Sep 26
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"Those EU immigrants now who settle and have families over here will not want/expect their kids to do what they do for a living and rightly so."

Yup, you only have to look at the migrants that arrived in the 60s and 70s for proof of that.

It's a read shame the EU insists that EU citizens can't be treated differently to UK citizens when it come to the NHS. the ability to tweak that would benefit that insitution greatly.

Side of Ham 1:43 Wed Sep 26
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Here's a prediction.....

Those EU immigrants now who settle and have families over here will not want/expect their kids to do what they do for a living and rightly so.

There is the problem with open border immigration, the youth don't know it yet or may never realise they are growing up with major competition to have any sort of professional job and even skilled labour jobs, a competition that has already been under strain from previous influxes.

In the future, Europe will be populated in pockets within certain cities, as the young migrate in masses to give themselves a future.

Therefore the EU is not working, but letting work dictate where to put down roots and it will eventually collapse under the strain.

....the greed to keep their industries intact will fuck the EU big nations over, should have spread some of the wealth and industry into places like Poalnd etc.

Gavros 1:41 Wed Sep 26
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
its certainly true that older people will be a net cost on the fiscal balance whereas younger people contribute. In this regard were getting one over on the continent; they send us their young workers, we send them old, wizened tramps like Willtell.

Gavros 1:24 Wed Sep 26
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"Over the long term the studies show a net negative effect."

Where's the evidence for that then?

Mike Oxsaw 1:00 Wed Sep 26
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When an immigrant arrives, the demand on public services and infrastructure is real and present. They only have a potential to create a positive contribution to the economy.

How quickly they realise that potential is an important factor because, during that time, SOMEONE has to fund their use of those public services and infrastructures.

Who's responsibility is that? And why?

Hammer and Pickle 12:54 Wed Sep 26
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But Crassus, old bean, I’m afraid no-deal Brexit is not going to square the circle of Johnny Foreigner using Britain’s public services. Best come to terms with this basic fact or you’ll end up doing yourself a serious mischief from which only the likes of Eton and Trinity College educated JRM are poised to benefit at your expense.

New Jersey 12:37 Wed Sep 26
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Also what the remoaners fail to highlight, but are in the studies about the effect of mass scale immigration, is the long term burden on our social services, we are struggling now with the care of the elderly, fucks knows what will happen when hundreds of thousands of Poles, Latvians, Somalians etc, etc, get dementia and start pissing themselves! Over the long term the studies show a net negative effect.

Crassus 11:56 Wed Sep 26
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Pickle

I distinctly remember Blair saying there would be no more than 70k Poles and Romanians entering the UK, over a million later and that has no impact upon the infrastructure?

Of migrants per se, I don't doubt that the EU types are net contributors, but my specific gripe are the non EU economic migrants encouraged by the EU who, not unreasonably, see our benefits as a reason for being here.

And don't get me started upon the alleged refugees seeking EU asylum who are aided and abetted against international convention, by EU member states. In fact the very individuals that your country will not accept.

I told you at the time, Merkel was creating a pan European shitstorm, I was right.

boltkunt 11:54 Wed Sep 26
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So it's possible to keep track of those who get here by boat, completely avoid checks by hiding in vans, crates and the like?

Righto.

Gavros 11:51 Wed Sep 26
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No Bolty, there's nothing stopping us from monitoring the number of EU and non-EU nationals coming in and leaving the country.

Currently its guessed at. For non-EU nationals they weigh boxes full of landing cards to get an idea.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:51 Wed Sep 26
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Gavros 11:41 Wed Sep 26

' the average EU migrant adds about £2500 per person per year to the public finances, because they are generally young and generally working and paying taxes.'

Lies, damn lies and statistics.

The 'average' EU immigrant includes a huge number of French, German, Dutch and Italian bankers who earn huge bonuses, pay enormous amounts of tax and will get a work permit in an instant.

Plus, those figures (from LSE) have been discredited by the Professor of Statistics at, yes, you guessed it, the LSE, who pointed out that the assumptions made in the calculations by the Economics dept were flagrantly biased.

Willtell 11:48 Wed Sep 26
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Gavros don't you understand that I am saying that contrary to what Pickled said, we get positive information about EU immigration all the time?

boltkunt 11:47 Wed Sep 26
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Freedom of movement, Gavros son.

However that wasn't the point I was trying to make and you know it.

Britannia Pub 11:47 Wed Sep 26
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I believe the theory is that, for EU citizens, an EHIC card should be presented when accessing NHS services and the patients home nation reimburse the NHS.

Someone saying that immigration has not impacted the NHS when they haven’t lived in the country for 30+ years is naive at best. In the last 30 years the UK population has grown by over 9million people so of course it’s had an impact.

Gavros 11:46 Wed Sep 26
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And who's fault is it that we dont actually count the number of people coming in and leaving, Bolty?

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