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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Westside 5:13 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
In point of fact, I can't see much wrong with H&P's use of only fighters on the Polish side against all Luftwaffe aircraft. That was how the battle transpired. Surely, though, you aren't suggesting there should be different rules for me and for H&P?

Not at all, but H&P 's post said "Anyway, 134 air victories in the 1939 campaign were not lying in the back of the sofa." He was clearly referring to air victories (aircraft) not airmen deaths. Your 3.5:1 was in response to that. I was querying if that was correct for plane loss ratios, in the battle of Britain, which it clearly isn't.

Hammer and Pickle 5:11 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
What the fuck has the tactics applied by the seasoned, war-hardened veteran ACES from Poland got to do with your pencil-head nerdling on how kill ratios are calculated?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:02 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
What the fuck has the Danzig Corridor and the Polish Navy at Dunkirk and D-Day got to do wth the Battle of Britain, you stupid cunt.

Swiss. 4:57 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
The Polish Navy also made a large contribution to the war effort and Dunkirk evacualtion and Normandy.

As for Poles fighting for Germany you must understand that a lot of Poland considered East proissia like Danzig /Gdansk would have ethnic Germans. Read Gunter Grass' Tin Drum.

Sometimes having knowledge does help when you are trying to bully someone. But I guess you Brexiters don't care beinbg ignorant as we know.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:57 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I'm doing exactly the same as H&P did.

RAF Bomber Command and Coastal Command casualties were not incurred as part of the Battle of Britain.

If we use all aircraft losses (including bombers and transports) in September 1939 the Polish kill ratio would be nowhere near 1:1 as H&P claims, it would be 13:1 in favour of the Germans. In fact, you have to use aircrew lost rather than aircraft to make a valid comparison because half the RAFs pilots escaped their planes and fought again, whereas the Germans didn't. That's how the battle was won and lost and the same conditions pertained over Poland.

In point of fact, I can't see much wrong with H&P's use of only fighters on the Polish side against all Luftwaffe aircraft. That was how the battle transpired. Surely, though, you aren't suggesting there should be different rules for me and for H&P?

Mike Oxsaw 4:55 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Yeah, and only bloke driving the German plane really (REALLY) wanted to kill the British - the 3 or 4 others were just along for the ride. Probably won their tickets in a raffle.

Swiss. 4:50 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Exactly Westside.

Westside 4:44 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Wiki - Battle of Britain is your friend..

Indeed. this shows German aircraft losses of 1,977 Allied of 1,744, nowhere near 3.5 1.

If you were comparing aircrew, not aircraft losses, it's not a valid comparison, as Fighter Command used single seat fighters virtually exclusively. The Germans used single seat fighters and masses of bombers crewed by 4 or 5 men.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:19 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Fighter Command lost about 1,000 aircrew killed missing or wounded and the Luftwaffe lost 4,200. I'm assuming some of the Luftwaffe losses may have been sustained in operations against RAF Bomber and Coastal commands, who weren't really involved in the Battle of Britain proper.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:15 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Wiki - Batlle of Britain is your friend.

Westside 2:37 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Pretty poor when compared with fighter command's figure of 3.5:1 in the Battle of Britain

Got a link to some stats for that Surface? All the stuff I've read over they ears showed RAF prevailed at a rate of about 2 to 1, in the Battle Of Britain.

As this article would suggest.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/battle-of-britain-75th-anniversary-the-staggering-numbers-behind-the-four-month-war-over-uks-skies-10380910.html

Be interested to see some stats, that the kill ratio was as you say.

Willtell 2:32 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I read the first line and thought it might be something written by you so didn't get any further as mim said. No-one can be arsed to read a nutter's conspiracy theories....

Hayzer 2:25 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
How was Poland our main ally when more Poles fought for the Germans than fought for us.

Hayzer 2:22 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
But you did thickwle I distinctly remember you using the N word. I’m sure some one was trying to get you barred over it. This is what happens when you post things pissed.

Hammer and Pickle 2:11 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
You WHO spokesperson on what post is read on here or not by self-appointment, mod appointment or perhaps democratic vote mimmler?

Or are you perhaps a snotty, faggy twat with an axe to grind and a fish dinner on your shoulder about the political system you clearly hate and depend on?

mashed in maryland 12:56 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Literally no one on here except for you will bother reading more than about 3 lines of that bollocks you call an "article", mate. That includes me. Sorry.

Willtell 12:16 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Self-awareness is not something you were ever born with was it Thickle?

Hammer and Pickle 11:13 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
I am interested in how Putin's Kremlin is influencing the political process as regards Brexit and Trump. This is, I believe a legitimate topic of interest.

You are clearly bent on presenting me in a bad light and getting me to defend my character. And you are certainly not commenting on the article I have just posted up.

So, I'm not interested in you mimmler. You are boring. Why don't you fuck off?

Willtell 10:43 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
Actually I just listened to the "Finest hour" speech and realise that it was actually to prepare the people BEFORE the eventual BOB ready for Germany to turn its attention to Britain after taking over most of Europe.

I'd forgotten that but either way H&P was wrong as Poland was never Britain's main ally.

If you want inspiration for why the EU should not be trying to screw Britain for leaving the EU then listen to Churchill's words from 77 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4BVzYGeF0M

, 10:41 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
As a matter of fact Churchill made the speech to which the term finest hour is attributed after the fall of France and the Dunkirk evacuation. This was some time before the ending of what came to be called the Battle of Britain. Churchill made reference to European countries but did not include the USA which remained technically neutral until Early December 1941, some eighteen months after our “finest hour”.

I wonder what the USA would have done if there had been no Pearl Harbour incident?

mashed in maryland 10:35 Tue Nov 21
Re: EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
H&P: Vladimir Putin secretly controls the world using a network of KGB spies who spend their free time calling me a cunt on WHO
Everyone else: shut up you daft old sod
H&P: you really have a weird warped view of the world and have been listening to too many conspiracy theories

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