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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Hammer and Pickle 4:13 Sun Feb 25
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The question is not sensible because the Far Right in Poland and Hungary are clearly not forcing the EU's hand.

Meanwhile, my assertion on the political motivation behind the Cologne sex attacks is based on the observed hybrid war methods applied by Putin not only in this case, but in the Donbas and Syria. And it's clearly rattled your and mimmler's cage. I wonder why.

Johnson 3:48 Sun Feb 25
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I tersting that you tell me to get help due to asking a perfectly sensible question from your post yet you think it’s perfectly sane to make up a load of bollocks about sex attack migrants telling German police that their FSB handlers made them do it and recruited them via unspecified social media.

Do you want to think again perhaps?

Hammer and Pickle 3:39 Sun Feb 25
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"So the populist far-right are forcing the EU to blackmail Poland Hungary into taking migrants they do not want, Thickle?"

Get help Johnson - that's clearly clinical.

Johnson 3:37 Sun Feb 25
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So the populist far-right are forcing the EU to blackmail Poland Hungary into taking migrants they do not want, Thickle?

Hammer and Pickle 3:31 Sun Feb 25
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Poland is getting grief from the European Commission for breaking its own constitution, having the shittest air-quality in Europe and chopping down our last primeval forest.

The issue of migration is the hobby-horse of the populist Right and nobody sensible in either Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic wants to put themselves out on a limb over the neurotic obsessions of a few provincial peasants and church-addicted grannies. You would Johnson, but thankfully you are very much in the minority, while Kaczyński, Orban and Zeman are welcome to try to lead their countries out of the EU over it.

Gavros 3:03 Sun Feb 25
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DocMarten 2:13 Sun Feb 25

you've just correctly identified the migrant crisis as being something decided on the national level and then immediately claim, wrongly, that it's something to do with the EU.

right and wrong in the same paragraph. well done.

Johnson 2:59 Sun Feb 25
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Why are Poland mad Hungary getting grief from the EU from failing to take their EU quota of migrants if it’s nothing to do with the EU, Gavvy?

Gavros 2:46 Sun Feb 25
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DocMarten 2:13 Sun Feb 25

you've just correctly identified the migrant crisis as being something decided on the national level and then immediately claim, wrongly, that it's something to do with the EU.

right and wrong in the same paragraph. well done.

Hammer and Pickle 2:40 Sun Feb 25
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Which “Eastern European culture” are you defending from Merkel’s migrants here Doc?

DocMarten 2:13 Sun Feb 25
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Pickle.

Absolutely agree with you that if a nation starts to slide on the democratic constitutions and rules they signed up to, then use the stick of funding. No problem with that whatsoever. You can’t take the money and take the piss, etc. If you don’t like to ‘rules’ of membership. Leave. Hence the UK is leaving.

However, ordering a country to take refugees goes beyond that, or is a separate point at least. Taking money from the EU to improve ones nation, should not mean you have to do as you are told on other issues. Especially those as contentious as forced resettlement. Which, I might add, has come about by the unilateral decision(at the time of announcement) by another nation. The leader of which panicked at the time, and has regretted it ever since. In fact it’s likely to define her entire time in office. Ironically, she gave birth to what you’re seeing now.

This is what the EU does to minor members. It bullies you into submission.

The Eastern European nations need to take a long hard look at themselves and decide whether retaining their culture and security and safety of their peoples is worth sacrificing for a few Euros.

And don’t forget, the Eastern European nations WILL NEVER BE TREATED AS EQUALS within the EU. You are, and always will be, second class citizens. Just like us Brits. They don’t want us/you there.

I 100% agree with Martin Selmayr. The UK does not belong in the EU. And nor, perhaps do the Eastern European nations.

Gavros 2:05 Sun Feb 25
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Rees Mogg is a cunt. he's calling BINO - an acronym I invented - BRINO. Can he not even get this basic thing right?

BINO!

Nurse Ratched 11:12 Sun Feb 25
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Far right = "Er...oh look, a squirrel!"

Willtell 11:03 Sun Feb 25
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I love the way that self-appointed spokesmen for the EU revert to "Far Right" labels to explain away any reasonable questions...

Hammer and Pickle 11:02 Sun Feb 25
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I would suggest you have a look at the picture today.

You know, the one with the sun in the corner and the strong and stable post-Brexit UK nowhere in sight.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:58 Sun Feb 25
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Erm, seven years after the financial crash is quite a long time to throw the rule book out of the window. To do so for so long suggest the EU is not the economic dynamo you suggest.

Hammer and Pickle 10:55 Sun Feb 25
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Well, as the name suggests, one would hope, for said members’ sake, the situation from 2014 was a temporary one.

And despite the worst efforts of the Far Right to create the opposite of growth and stability, everything indicates the picture today is indeed quite different.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:31 Sun Feb 25
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How is that Stability and Growth Pact rule coming along, Pickled? As far as I can see, in 2014, the last whole year available, 15 out of 28 countries were flouting it.

Nurse Ratched 10:24 Sun Feb 25
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I take it you're not having a nice, leisurely lie-in with your loving wife this Sunday morning, Pickle. You've got your priorities right.

Hammer and Pickle 10:17 Sun Feb 25
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Seems you have the wrong end of the stick, me old fellow, Doc.

The EU has rules, which so happen to be the rules that make representative democracy tick.

What does this actually mean? Well, at least it ought to mean that members who do not respect their own democratic constitutions and the rules they signed up to as members have no place in the EU. Anything else makes a mockery of those members who do respect the rules. I agree, too long have those rules been bent on say the Maastricht euro criteria. However, since that matter has been straightened out idiots like Kaczyński, Orban and Zeman will have to start behaving like proper members or will not have the right to participate in the budget like they are proper members.

So forgive the plodding tone, but I do believe you kind of need this basic stuff spelled out to you.

DocMarten 9:57 Sun Feb 25
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Looks like the EU are seriously looking at yet another gun to the head negotiating tactic to the less willing states on migrant settlement.”Take them, or get no money” - which is nice.

So the funding of a nation to accelerate its development is morphing into something a whole lot more sinister. Forced policy.

To withdraw monies due to a government turning totalitarian, against the will of its people, which is clearly against the general principles of Western govt practice, i’m Not so worried about. But to force policy against the will of a local population is taking it too far.

Still, the EU knows best. Don’t ever forget that.

Shame. What started off all those years ago, is beginning to look like Frankenstein’s monster. Very scary and sinister.

Hammer and Pickle 9:46 Sun Feb 25
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It’s an attitude one can have as long as one is a participating member. Meanwhile, for the UK, that train has left the station.

Or has it now, and you are negotiating from the position of a participant contributor to the budget?

Which is it, O Massive, Gasious, Pointy-Headed Sack of Misery?

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