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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Pub Bigot 11:33 Mon Dec 10
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This is quite simple. If we are forced into a second referendum there will be utter chaos. The protests in Paris will pale in comparison.

BRANDED 11:29 Mon Dec 10
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Its not the UK but its an interesting fact. In 2015 wall street ( the instigators of the credit crunch and financial crisis) paid themselves in bonuses the same amount of money as the 70 million minimum wage earners in the USA. We have our versions of that stat even if its not quite as outrageous and that's what momentum and Labour are focussed on dealing with.

The Kronic 11:21 Mon Dec 10
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I see, so its fine to reward the rich (and the very people who helped cause the global recession) with tax breaks whilst the least well off are punished with austerity, just so long as Julian has the right to marry Adrian.

Coffee 11:20 Mon Dec 10
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The Kronic 10:16 Mon Dec 10

Don't you love a good coincidence?

Nurse Ratched 11:18 Mon Dec 10
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It's ok for you and I to have different views...just as long as I don't get to vote on mine. Is that about the size of it, Spandex?

Spandex Sidney 11:17 Mon Dec 10
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Yes I did. Financially conservative and socially liberal.

It's okay to have different views by the way. It's being too thick to realise that that has got us into this mess.

The Kronic 11:15 Mon Dec 10
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I really liked what he did with his party and the country mainly

__________

Erm...what?

Spandex Sidney 11:13 Mon Dec 10
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I miss Cameron in all honesty. I really liked what he did with his party and the country mainly (I'm not sure austerity was ever/is the way forward though) but dropped a massive bollock with this referendum. You can't bring something so divisive to the country, the country's unity is more important than a single issue.

I'd love to see the Tories get back to something like that but they seem gripped by right wing, millionaire isolationists who would be fine with a no deal, unlike 95% of the country. Maybe I'm being unfair but it seems like that to my uninformed mind.

Jeremy Hunt or Sajid Javid for me, both seem moderate and only a moderate can bring the country back together. And that's what we need to do more than ANYTHING else, including a the Brexit deal looks like.

Gavros 11:11 Mon Dec 10
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State aid rules don't rule out nationalisation.

They're mainly there to prevent government's boosting an industry so that it becomes overcompetitive with other companies. It was put into place with an eye on the French by guess who?

BRANDED 11:09 Mon Dec 10
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Toe Rag

First thing Labour need is to be in power. Getting there for leavers or remainers is the key thing.

The problem of leave and remain is the same in the Conservatives. Not ALL Tories are leavers.

Hammer and Pickle 10:58 Mon Dec 10
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Russ

And the point I made to you in answer was about legitemacy and risk. Because the risks of Brexit demand a far higher margin of victory and what legitemacy there was has long been been exhausted by the chaos in the country and incoherent nature of the government’s negotiations with Brussels. Playing down the risks by shouting about Project Fear is not going to make the risk go away either.

Democracy is not a game and running the country is not an Oxford Union debate to be won or lost by a simple vote. JRM doesn’t give a toss about this, but then he will never be in a position of ministerial responsibility. You however might be sensitive to this if you have responsibility for your own life.

Toe Rag 10:57 Mon Dec 10
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It seems to me that the vast majority of Labour supporters don’t understand how most of Jezzas renationalisation plans will not be doable with us as part of the EU under their rules about state aid?

I don’t understand how Starmer is seemingly ok in hoisting his flag on the good ship Corbyn? They seem to me totally at odds with each other. Which ones are lying? Which ones are in complete denial?

Russ of the BML 10:45 Mon Dec 10
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ray winstone 10:18 Mon Dec 10

Serkis is obviously a bit slow in work at the moment.

Russ of the BML 10:42 Mon Dec 10
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The Kronic 10:12 Mon Dec 10

Spot on.

Her position is just selfish.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:25 Mon Dec 10
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The Kronic 10:16 Mon Dec 10

Yes. Anyone would think there might have been some collusion. But no, that would never happen, would it...?

ray winstone 10:18 Mon Dec 10
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My precious Brexit....

https://youtu.be/Tjp5OmoDYQM

The Kronic 10:16 Mon Dec 10
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The ECJ have just told us we can revoke out withdrawal from the EU unilaterally. Which is nice of them.
Great timing too just after May gives the country a deal so bad it makes staying in look preferable.

The Kronic 10:12 Mon Dec 10
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Yes Russ, she even said poverty can only be tackled via a 2nd referendum. This is nothing short of a lie and outright manipulation.
And I question the motives of anyone who claims to be from the left yet desperately wants us in an nondemocratic union of free market/corporate capitalism which serves to restrict left wing policies from its member states.

Mike Oxsaw 10:04 Mon Dec 10
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This simply shows how low some people are prepare to go to try and force their desires on the rest of the population.

Almost everything that comes out of a remainer's mouth only serves to remind everybody else why leave was and is the better option.

Russ of the BML 10:04 Mon Dec 10
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Personally I think all politicians calling for a second referendum need to be shut down quick sharp. All its doing is causing more aggravation and giving Remainers a reason to keep harping on.

As Rees -Mogg said last night (and the point I made last week). Had the vote been the other way and 52% voted to remain can you imagine the response to Leavers two years later calling for a second referendum? They would be ridiculed and told to be quiet.

The result is done. What we need now is the political system to stop acting like cunts and get the job done properly.

Russ of the BML 10:01 Mon Dec 10
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The Kronic 11:42 Sun Dec 9

Yes. Disgraceful comment.

But she got rightly derided by the Labour guy who said she may want to tarnish all Leave voters as being Right Wing but the majority are decent, law-abiding, hard working people.

People like her are so dangerous its untrue.

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