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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Eerie Descent 3:30 Tue Oct 22
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riosleftsock 2:49 Tue Oct 22

If only I was trying to wind someone up.

WINK WINK NUDGE NUDGE YOU WALLY

Hammer and Pickle 3:10 Tue Oct 22
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Not too fussed about Hitler’s thoughts but will say he believed he was realising “provenance”, of which Bismarck had been a part.

As for Bismarck, it is pretty safe to say he would have thought Hitler belonged in a mental institution.

New Jersey 3:06 Tue Oct 22
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Poland was also the only country occupied by Germany where there wasn't any collaboration with the occupiers, unlike Vichy France!

riosleftsock 3:03 Tue Oct 22
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Whether the problem was the rise of germany or not, it was definitely a fucking stupid idea to allow the Prussians to have a continental army.

riosleftsock 3:02 Tue Oct 22
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Pickle

I've heard both sides of the argument regarding Bismarck's plan, and I would agree that he diverged from it with his ventures into deepest Russia, but overall I believe Hitler and his followers felt they were fulfilling the prophecy. Their obsession with german legend and myth was almost unreal.

The funny thing is that Bismarck was a pragmatist and would probably have never realised his ambition as he tended towards other forms of power and control.

orwells tragedy 2:58 Tue Oct 22
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riosleftsock 2:49 Tue Oct 22

YES, lets blame the French

"First, you must always follow orders right away, without trying to form an opinon of your own of them. Second, you must consider any man to be your enemy who speaks badly of your king. And third, you must hate a Frenchman as much as you hate the Devil"

Pity its not the 21st...

Hammer and Pickle 2:56 Tue Oct 22
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The problem is not the rise of Germany and I’m not convinced Hitler was realising Bismarck’s project any more than Tusk and Juncker are realising Hitler’s.

Whatever.

riosleftsock 2:49 Tue Oct 22
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Eerie

I hear this trope quite a bit, its incorrect and extremely insulting to an ally who, like us, expended treasure and the blood of a generation fighting Nazis and in their case, the soviets too.

If you are looking to apportion blame and gratitude for the cause and outcome of WW2, starting with Poland is a complete red herring in the former and is probably under done in the case of the latter.

The cause of WW2, was the failure of Mittel Europe to prevent the creation of the state of Germany under Bismarck, usurping the Austrian influence and in reaction to yet another French capitulation during the franco Prussian war of 1870. From little germany to bigger germany (incl Austria) to lebensraum, the german march through Europe was planned in the previous century and the Frogs knew all about it but did fuck all.

Hammer and Pickle 2:45 Tue Oct 22
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Yeah right Arserent - that’s what it says in the Beano at your reading level.

Eerie Descent 2:34 Tue Oct 22
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Your mob would still be hiding under tables if it wasn't for GREAT Britain saving your arses, Pickle.

Eerie Descent 2:34 Tue Oct 22
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Your mob would still be hiding under tables if it wasn't for GREAT Britain saving your arses, Pickle.

Gavros 2:34 Tue Oct 22
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We negotiated a rollover of the EU FTA with South Korea. The original one took years, as all FTAs do.

Eerie Descent 2:33 Tue Oct 22
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Your mob would still be hiding under tables if it wasn't for GREAT Britain saving your arses, Pickle.

Hammer and Pickle 2:27 Tue Oct 22
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So the blockade was wholly defensive in strategic terms and merely confirmed Hitler in his assumption that the Allies were not willing to fight him. It was like a Maginot Line at sea.

Far Cough 2:13 Tue Oct 22
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Westside 1:39 Tue Oct 22
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Westside, you're wrong, Scapa was used to blockade Germany in both wars:


The Home Fleet was the Royal Navy's main battle force in European waters during the Second World War. On 3 September 1939, under Admiral Forbes flying his flag in Nelson at Scapa Flow, it consisted of the 2nd Battle Squadron, the Battle Cruiser Squadron, 18th Cruiser Squadron, Rear-Admiral, Destroyers, Rear-Admiral, Submarines (2nd Submarine Flotilla, Dundee, 6th Submarine Flotilla, Blyth, Northumberland), Vice-Admiral, Aircraft Carriers (Vice-Admiral L.V. Wells, with Ark Royal, Furious, and Pegasus), and the Orkney and Shetlands force.[24] Its chief responsibility was to keep Germany's Kriegsmarine from breaking out of the North Sea. For this purpose, the First World War base at Scapa Flow was reactivated as it was well placed for interceptions of ships trying to run the blockade.

Wiki

Block 2:08 Tue Oct 22
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Rick, who are governed by 1 leader, who speaks on behalf of all the 27 states.

Block 2:07 Tue Oct 22
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you believe what's printed in the telegraph?

Jesus wept.

Pickle Rick 2:06 Tue Oct 22
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Block 2:01 Tue Oct 22

Negotiating a trade deal with one nation won't take long, the EU is 27 and all 27 have to agree hence the time it will take.

BRANDED 2:03 Tue Oct 22
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What’s on Corb’s side is that at any moment in the next few years people’s lives will remain for the most part no better if not worse under the Tories.
In yesterday’s Evening standard they were projecting another 3 million immigrants to come to the UK in the next 10 years. The northern monkies will be spitting blood.
The underlying issues that brought Brexit about will continue until some almighty event.

ChillTheKeel 2:02 Tue Oct 22
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Bozo's problem is that Cummings likes simple slogans to appeal to simple idiots. Repeating 'Get Brexit Done' is effective until it becomes apparent it won't be done by the 31st.
The electorate who fall for such soppy, simple slogans wont be examining the reasons to why Bozo failed, just that he has.

Block 2:01 Tue Oct 22
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Gavros 1:50 Tue Oct 22

I can agree with that, however you have just spotted this within what, 5 minutes?

However, haven't we just negotiated a free trade agreement with South Korea worth £14bn in a very short space of time? Negotiating a trade deal with the EU shouldn't SHOULDN'T be that difficult.

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