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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Johnson 12:22 Tue Aug 20
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You posting an unsubstantiated claim that falsely claims your own personal opinion is shared by the voting public means you have me on a piece of sting?

What the master puppeteer you are.

And the referendum was FPP and yes, people want that result to be respected which actually means that FPP still has its place and is expected to be followed.

I'm not sure you thought that through did you?

, 12:17 Tue Aug 20
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As an example of my contention 52% of the voters in the referendum voted to leave and some people on here are squealing like stuck pigs because the want their votes to count.

So glad that I post and you feel compelled follow. Still got you on a piece of string eh?

Johnson 12:11 Tue Aug 20
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Given there was a vote that REJECTED getting rid of FPP, what evidence do you have that the voting public have realised anything about FPP?

You wanting the system to change and continually bleating about it is not evidence I'm afraid.

So let's see your evidence please, comma.

Mike Oxsaw 12:10 Tue Aug 20
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The ONLY reason that traditional politics is suffering is because those elected treat those who elected them with utter contempt. Fuck all to do with the numbers.

, 12:02 Tue Aug 20
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The reason why two party Westminster politics is suffering is because the electorate have realised that under the present FPP system governments gain power with just 40% of the popular vote overall which is some 25% of the electorate. How can any government be tolerated with a mandate voted against by 60% of those that voted?

Britannia Pub 11:45 Mon Aug 19
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Zeb,

My point was it’s not just the ERG. Two party politics is finished imo and it’s no bad thing. 90% (and thats being conservative) are only in it for themselves and not for joe public’s benefit.

The balance of power was in lots of mp’s hands. However, most are self serving cunts

Gavros 11:34 Mon Aug 19
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As Madeley that twat was saying that EFTA "isnt leaving the EU" despite Norway and Switzerland not being in the EU.

Nor is a customs union leaving the EU despite Turkey not being in the EU.

These cunts will ensure the revolution eats itself.

Darlo Debs 10:01 Mon Aug 19
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Zeb 9.48 agreed

Mike Oxsaw 9:52 Mon Aug 19
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"Extend indefinitely" = "Remain".

Good luck spinning that as respecting the wishes of the voting majority.

zebthecat 9:50 Mon Aug 19
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Britannia Pub 4:45 Mon Aug 19

Never said that. They did, however, hold the balance of power on the votes.

13 Brentford Rd 9:49 Mon Aug 19
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Leaving?

Mike Oxsaw 9:49 Mon Aug 19
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I see that the latest Project Fear duck is that all schoolkids will painfully starve to death if we leave with no deal.

13 Brentford Rd 9:48 Mon Aug 19
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Ag

zebthecat 9:48 Mon Aug 19
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Personally I'd be OK with an EEA or EFTA type thing as I have no hangups about free movement of labour.
It does give us wriggle room on benefits too. We had that anyway mind.
Pretty sure that there is not a solution that would please the majority of the population let alone parliament.

Lee Trundle 9:46 Mon Aug 19
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4. The Ribman will be on Dragons Den tonight

Gavros 9:39 Mon Aug 19
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1. There is currently no solution that parliament can get behind, mainly because of the Irish trilemma.

2. The is no majority for no deal.

3. The equilibrium state is currently to extend indefinitely.

Britannia Pub 4:45 Mon Aug 19
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As far as I’m aware the ERG do not hold a majority in parliament. I think you’ll find that there were plenty of other MP’s who voted down May’s deal (3 times).

Block 4:45 Mon Aug 19
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Zeb, and they had a right to.

The deal was a fucking abomination which saw us tied to the EU without any say indefinitely.

However, I haven't seen any Remainers come out with a solution which respects the Referendum but also stops a no deal brexit.

Corbyn, Grieve etc keep banging on about stopping a no deal but have no plan themselves on how to go about it which respects the referendum result.

Maybe, just maybe if the cunts we elected put their egos aside and worked together we'd have a much better chance of securing something the majority could swallow. Will never happen though.

Kaiser Zoso 4:43 Mon Aug 19
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Funnily enough, if it hadn’t been for Gina Miller we’d be saddled with May's capitulation.

zebthecat 4:41 Mon Aug 19
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For the tories it was the ERG who blocked the withdrawal agreement not the tory remainers who actually voted for it while holding their noses.
If it wasn't for them we'd have been on way out months ago.

Block 4:38 Mon Aug 19
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If the EU isn't the bureaucratic shitcunts leavers make them out, they'd agree as the tariffs will have a huge effect on Germany for example.

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