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Bullet 4:34 Sat Feb 20
EU Referendum 23rd June 2016 declares Cameron
BBC
Britain will vote on whether to remain in the EU on Thursday 23 June, Prime Minister David Cameron has said.
The prime minister made his historic announcement in Downing Street after briefing the cabinet.
He said he would be campaigning to remain in a reformed EU - and described the vote as one of the biggest decisions "in our lifetimes".
Ministers immediately divide

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Mike Oxsaw 7:07 Fri Oct 18
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HairyHammer 6:30 Fri Oct 18

I tend to disagree.

Before the referendum, people of all political persuasions had absolutely no say in all and any things EU related. The UK government, it total deference to the EU, suppressed or deftly side-stepped the issue whenever it arose; sure, some could whine, but that was about all that was allowed; it was imposed "from above" by a self-selecting elite.

Nobody disagrees that the seed, the catalyst, for this was the Tory leadership's desire to unite their party, and that was surely the hope Cameron had when he called his dissenters' bluff.

However, from that point on it tore itself away from it's political tethers and "went apolitically viral"; the whole nation had the chance to express - legally - it's view on all things EU, and it decided it didn't like what it saw.

Remember, had remain won, even by a solitary vote, that would have been deemed "enough" (by them, naturally) to stay in and tell "leavers" to shut the fuck up and move on. No way, having won, even by the slimmest of margins, would they have demanded another referendum "in the interests of true democracy".

They and the remain leading establishment still won't accept the result. They fully expected it to be a walk in the park victory for them and losing hurts...it FUCKING hurts. Several egos were violated and very many seats on the entitlement gravy train were suddenly at risk; "Fuck what's good for the country as a whole, I'm - ME! - am loosing my perks!!".

Ever since then, the (remain leaning, as most perks went that way) establishment has tried to spin the leavers as the "bad guys", "the selfish ones", "only in it for themselves". It was and is classic deflection propaganda; vested interested led deception that swept along with it many who would normally claim to be above and impervious to such manipulation.

It was SO effective, that these people (remainers) simply can't consider the fact that they have been used, fed a fairy tale, led by the nose by someone only interested in what they can earn for "the leaders", not who they are.

In the last 3 years, the EU and those who support it have been exposed for what they really are and want and people have a clearer view - warts and all.

HairyHammer 6:30 Fri Oct 18
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Mike Oxsaw

If it were a referendum about something that the British public were aching about I would understand but the honest truth is that not that many people gave a shit about being in or out of the EU and that is the truth.
An internal Conservative party problem turned into the biggest snowball this country has ever seen, all you needed is the red tops and men like great Boris writing about bendy bananas and banning Prawn cocktail crisps and the British public were drawn in, we were all told they hated us and that it was a club for the elite, and who was telling us this??? ELITE MONSTERS that's who.

Mike Oxsaw 6:01 Fri Oct 18
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I'm still trying to get my head around the fact that remainers took part in a democratic referendum, the result of which they had absolutely no intention of respecting.

Buying a tramp a can of spesh would have been more productive, more honest and more useful.

arsegrapes 3:19 Fri Oct 18
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Irish times say Boris may not need the DUP votes.

Some 18 Labour MPs, including Mr Kinnock, sent a letter to EU Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker last week stating that they would be prepared to side with the Tory prime minister in a Commons vote.
They wrote: “If a deal can be brought back to the Commons in the coming weeks that avoids a no-deal Brexit and ensures greater certainty during the UK’s departure, we believe it serves Britain’s national interest to approve it. Our votes will be decisive in determining the approval of that deal.”

Crassus 2:36 Fri Oct 18
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Gavros 7:47 Thu Oct 17
'Not at all. Boris is selling you a kipper and pretending its salmon. Once into transition the UK wont be out of it until its decided to be either highly aligned with the EU or in the EU'

Yep thats about it in a nutshell and it is not a deal but a treaty, so double fucked.

only1billybonds 2:16 Fri Oct 18
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Westside.

Please post some evidence to back up your claim that the vast majority of elections attracted a turn out of 72%+.

But dont worry if you cant,remainers have been making outlandish claims for 3 and a bit years now but very rarely produce FACTUAL evidence to support these claims.

bruuuno 1:54 Fri Oct 18
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I bet they secretly enjoy it

BRANDED 1:32 Fri Oct 18
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Anyway. Love the way the Unionists have been fucked so heavily up their slightly masculine rectums

arsegrapes 1:31 Fri Oct 18
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In principle braindead

bruuuno 1:30 Fri Oct 18
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Pint of GUTTED for mr pickle?

BRANDED 1:25 Fri Oct 18
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Erm. They haven’t started the trade agreement yet! 🌴🍺🤣🤢🧵🌚🥃🌎

arsegrapes 1:23 Fri Oct 18
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, was very convincing, first time he’s looked sober mind.

I don’t know what the consensus is, seems this Boris deal is either a BINO sell out or closer to a FTA Canada +++

, 1:09 Fri Oct 18
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grapes, Juncker was speaking for himself about no more extensions and Tusk has refused to rule out granting the UK a further extension.

arsegrapes 1:04 Fri Oct 18
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Juncker wouldn’t say there won’t be a further UK delay unless he knew that was the wishes of the EU 27. And the EU 27 are all agreed as the UK has agreed to pay a £33bn divorce bill.

Likewise the 21 Conservative MPs who had the whip taken away from them will most likely have the whip reinstated subject to them voting for the Boris Brexit deal. The DUP have already accepted a £1bn bribe, I expect that will be increased for their 10 votes. I expect a few more stragglers will be offered peerages and such like to swing it.

As good old JR Ewing used to say “Everyone has a price”!

Westside 12:40 Fri Oct 18
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he biggest vote this country has ever participated in.

Only because the population is at it's highest level ever.

The 2016 referendum turnout was just over 72%. A figure bettered by the vast majority of general elections, post world war 2.

Capitol Man 12:15 Fri Oct 18
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Kaiser Zoso 9:30 Thu Oct 17
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Than how come your complete inability to come up with an original thought or put together a coherent argument on any subject?

Surely a very stable genius like wouldn't flounder around aimlessly like you do?

gph 11:32 Thu Oct 17
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You're QUOTIENT?

Can't be intellligent, as that wouldn't be a surprising reason...

White Pony 11:24 Thu Oct 17
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"(and there is a surprising reason why I am good at them)"

NOBODY ASK HIM.

White Pony 11:23 Thu Oct 17
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So, Boris's big plan is that he scares some MPs into thinking we won't be granted an extension, so it's either this deal or no deal and therefore they will be forced into voting for it. It's a shit plan, but where else can he go?

zebthecat 11:23 Thu Oct 17
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Insert a "for" into that previous post..

zebthecat 11:21 Thu Oct 17
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I was a MENSA member a short time but all that proves is that you are good at IQ tests (and there is a surprising reason why I am good at them).
Went to a couple of meetings and they were, almost to a person, self satisfied smug bastards.

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