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Q: 2020/2021 Where will we finish up this season?
a. Top Four, Champions League here we come
b. 5th-7th Europa League is well within our grasp
c. 8th to 14th anywhere in mid table is about right
d. We're in a dog fight before a ball has been kicked and we'll do well to finish 17th or just above
e. GSB have derailed our season before a ball has been kicked, the Championship beckons

crystal falace 9:51 Thu Mar 10
NFL (since 2016)
Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent.

Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB,

Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt.

lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all.

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Mr. Burns 5:01 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
That linebacker the Bucs have got Devin White is absolutely mustard. Best player on the team I reckon.

kylay 4:21 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
El Scorchio 12:55 Mon Jan 25

Come on mate, they didn't finish above .500 last season in a shit NFC south division. I don't think many, except for maybe Brady's most ardent fans, had the bucs making a super bowl run at the beginning of the season or even as a wild card at the beginning of the playoffs.

southbankbornnbred 4:17 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
I swear, the way to beat Brady is to keep rushing him. He will pick you off some of the time and score points, because he is that good, but if you get to him two or three times, you are eventually going to slow down his decision-making and possibly even injure him. He's 43 and not as quick around the pocket as he was. But the 46 defense has fallen out of favour, because of quick-release QBs, so too few sides actually rush Brady with more than a couple of token blitzers these days - which he reads too easily.

He's superb, as is Mahomes. But they are both human. And Brady is a 43 year-old human with a wonky knee. I'm going all Mike Singletary on that.

Lee Trundle 4:13 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Any see the interview with Rodgers after the game? Felt pretty sorry for the bloke.

southbankbornnbred 4:11 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
One thing is for sure: Reid and his DC, Spagnuolo, won't make the sort of call Pettine made which cost the Packers hugely before half-time.

Couldn't believe it when Pettine call a high-press cover, with the extra safety in the middle of the field, when the Buccs had no timeouts left and were midfield with just a few seconds left in the half.

Brady had no option but to throw long and to the outside. So Pettine calls a defensive play with just man-on-man coverage on the outside for both corners.

I'd have shot him.

Lee Trundle 4:11 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
... but I'd still be wrong with that.

Lee Trundle 4:08 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
southbankbornnbred 3:59 Mon Jan 25

Sorry, I meant defend it.

RBshorty 4:05 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Brady's TENTH.! Super Bowl. Like him or not. You got to doff your'e cap to the guy. The greatest of all time. Versus. The Great Pretender. Hopefully it's a classic.

southbankbornnbred 4:05 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
I agree with Scorch - if both sides are at their best, I fancy KC to retain the trophy. Reid will put Brady under a little more pressure than the Packers did. And Mahomes/Kelce/Reid will put Todd Bowles' defense under even more pressure than the Packers did.

But it could be a good quality shoot-out.

southbankbornnbred 4:02 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
TM - you're spot on. The Johnson ownership is THE problem in New York. They needed to learn when and how to appoint the best and then take a back seat and let good, knowledgeable folk deliver for them.

Unfortunately, they've been unable to do either of those things. As a result, we've just stumbled from one crisis to another for 20 years. Time for them to accept they don't know what they're doing and sell-up. They'll still make a big profit.

southbankbornnbred 3:59 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Trundle - KC wouldn't be the first team to retain it, fella. A few have already done it: Green Bay, Miami, Dallas, Steelers, 49ers, Broncos, Patsies.

Takashi Miike 1:48 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
the Bucs will be playing at home, cough. they deserve to win it after three road wins, the hardest at our place :.)

Far Cough 1:32 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Which stadium is the SB at this year?

Lee Trundle 12:58 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
I'll be forced to cheer on KC due to the other half, but to be honest I'll sit there and enjoy the game whoever wins. 1st home team to win, or 1st team to retain it.

Should be a cracker.

El Scorchio 12:55 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Tampa will win the Super bowl. Two really good offenses but they also have a fantastic defense (sic) to limit KC. They are the more complete team on both sides of the ball and peaking at just the right time.

Brady's not an idiot. He knew he was walking onto a very, very good team just a few pieces away on offense, which could easily win him another ring. They, just like KC, have an embarrassment of riches in terms of skill players.

Takashi Miike 12:29 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
maybe it was gase's demeanour in that opening press conference that distracted me away from johnson before, but I'm a good judge of characters and situations & he's the biggest problem for jets fans. we had two decades of similar crap before rivera arrived and was allowed to run things, rather than put in a baby walker & spoon fed by morons

southbankbornnbred 11:56 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
I thought the Saleh press conference was interesting from the point of view of the media. Those hacks who don't really know much about the Jets just fell for the same old jibber and bile from Johnson etc. Whereas the guy Vaccaro from the New York Post, who has been in place for a while and knows his American Football, immediately asked why the Jets had such a 'reputation for dysfunction' within the league!

That's a proper journalist asking a question which cuts through all the celebratory puff and hot air, which we've seen during ten or so previous HC and GM appointments.

The Post might be a tabloid, but it does at least ask some questions of the Jets that are actually about the reality of Gotham.

Takashi Miike 11:54 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
I'm not bothered about the politics angle, but he came across in the press conference as a control freak. he should have introduced saleh and then fucked off. im not sure why douglas was there either, as johnson wouldn't let him get a word in. as I said, the coach is great but those owners need to stay out of his way

southbankbornnbred 11:45 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Mike Tannenbaum and Mike MacCagnan.

Fecking auto-correct!

southbankbornnbred 11:42 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
The bright spots are that Joe Douglas does seem very sensible as the new (ish) GM and Saleh does seem to have a sense of direction and purpose, as well as a 21st Century playbook.

If you think of any NFL franchise as having three key components - owners/execs, GM and HC - then we at least have two decent-looking pieces of that jigsaw in place. Which has been rare for us. But both of those pieces, Douglas and Saleh, are unproven.

southbankbornnbred 11:37 Mon Jan 25
Re: NFL (since 2016)
TM - yeah, you have immediately hit upon THE problem at the Jets for the past 20 years.

The executive you're referring to was Christopher Johnson, the co-owner of the New York Jets. He is is the junior partner in the ownership to Woody Johnson. Woody is currently the Trump-appointed US ambassador to the UK, so is probably going to be returning to 'lead' the Jets again soon.

I say 'lead'. They are fucking useless. Snyder-level useless!

The Johnson family don't have a clue what they are doing. They barely have an interest in American Football. They just wanted to own a high-profile sports team and one that makes a lot of money due to its loyal fans. In that sense, they are very much like West Ham's owners - they are adept at milking the franchise for its prestige, passion and the fans' cash.

The Johnson's bought the Jets in 2000 and have since proved their inability. The Jets have lost 57 games in the last five years. All they have done is develop a losing culture. We have been consistently poor because they simply don't know what they are doing - and, with all due respect to Saleh (who has impressed so far), our fans have heard all of the pumped-up passion and empty promises of the ownership etc before now.

We heard it when the owners took over, we heard it when they appointed Mangina, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles and Adam Gase. We heard it when they appointed GMs like Tenanbaum, McClagenhan etc.

We've heard a LOT of talk during the 20 years of Johnson ownership - and not seen very much action of delivery. The exceptions were Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan (briefly) as coaches, and possibly Joe Douglas the new GM (who seems sensible and it relatively new, so we're giving him some time).

But the Johnson's have basically overseen failure. They seem won over by talk, not action. They fall for every snake oil salesman on the planet, like Gase. Possibly because that's what they are like themselves (although it is baby oil that they sell!). They have not developed a winning culture at the franchise - far from it. They don't know what a successful franchise looks like - and we think it's high time they sold up and shipped out.

Hence we haven't yet gone all-in on Saleh as a group of fans. He does strike me as potentially very good, but we have seen and heard all of this MANY times before. You're right to wonder how somebody can be successful in that culture/atmosphere.

Herm Edwards and Rex Ryan almost did through sheer force of personality, but were hindered by poor execs and GMs (as well as Ryan's awful offenses). But the rest of the last 20 years (and more) has been utter garbage on every level - execs. GMs. rosters, starters, scouting, training and development.

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