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Q: 2020/2021 Where will we finish up this season?
a. Top Four, Champions League here we come
9%
  
b. 5th-7th Europa League is well within our grasp
10%
  
c. 8th to 14th anywhere in mid table is about right
31%
  
d. We're in a dog fight before a ball has been kicked and we'll do well to finish 17th or just above
24%
  
e. GSB have derailed our season before a ball has been kicked, the Championship beckons
26%
  



Sue Perdupa 4:39 Fri May 13
Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Given the potential seriousness of the allegations made by Channel 4 about criminality and electoral fraud at the last election, I would have expected this to be the lead item for nearly all papers and news sites? Doesn't look like its been given too much prominence so far.

MPs could be criminally prosecuted, barred from holding public office and up to 29 by-elections might need to be called in key marginal seats. That's before you get to the Tories deliberately misleading the Electoral Commission and being taken to Court as a result.

I accept that this is all worse case scenario and nothing has been proved as yet, but surely this is one of the biggest stories for some time? Not least because of the Anti-corruption conference Cameron is fronting and his overheard comments about corruption in Nigeria and Afghanistan. It looks like he's up to his neck in it and that the Tories broke the law in buying the last election. Might explain why the polls were so wrong.

Good work by Channel 4:

http://www.channel4.com/news/election-expenses-exposed

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ray winstone 12:54 Sun Jun 5
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
'Gleeful'? I'm disgusted that one of your lot can get accused of being a nonce and walks out of court a free man with the aid of 'the establishment', sickening.

After8 4:27 Sat Jun 4
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Ray what an odd person you are. You are almost gleeful that someone has committed child abuse which is a disgusting crime.

After8 4:26 Sat Jun 4
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Actually kiork the snp labour and lib dems are all being investigated too. I understand you've got an anti Tory bias in life but they are the facts.

kirok1 11:51 Sat Jun 4
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Electoral fraud has been brushed under the carpet by the main media and ch4 kept this going.
Politicians need to be held to account. They say almost everyone else in public life is a model or an example to follow, why not them?
They broke the rules and it is fraud. Unfortunately the majority of them got away with it when they fiddled their expenses. Hope they get caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law this time.
If all parties did it, all parties should be investigated. But by the sound of it, only one party actively fiddled their financial records to cover it up.
Says something about the chief political correspondent at the BBC that she still hasn't bothered pursuing this but goes after Corbyn on whatever whim takes her fancy. (There are plenty of reasons to pursue Corbyn on policy grounds but odd how she never goes after Gideon, Dave and co...)

ray winstone 5:45 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Now now Tim, don't get upset.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:41 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
,: Surface is a cunt
SAX20: I say, that's a bit strong.
,: He bit, he bit, he bit!

,:Surface smells of poo.
SAX20: Now, hang on, just a minute.
,: he bit, he bit, he bit again!

What a wanker.

AfM 5:30 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:07 Fri Jun 3

, 5:24 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Getting easier by the post.

Yet again you take yourself far too seriously. Then show your true kipper colours.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:22 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Oh look, for the 125th consecutive time, comma is pretending to be fishing when caught out making a cunt of himself.

Either that or he thinks he can have a deliberate snipe under the cover of a fishing expedition.

In either case, he's an arsehole.

, 5:17 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Serf, swt.

Too easy.

orwells tragedy 5:14 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
"Battle buses". Shows up politicians and their ilk for the bullied last pick at football out of touch Harry Potter fan club t-shirt wearing juvenile twats that they are.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:11 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Says it all about your attitude towards democracy, comma.

, 5:10 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Let's get a positive out of this "constituency election allowance adjustment" it contributed to keeping Farage out.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:07 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Actually, whether you like it or not, it IS fraud.

ray winstone 5:06 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
A8, do you know Patrick Rock? Are there any more nonces about to come out of the Tory party woodwork we should know about?

After8 4:43 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
The use of battle buses by the conservatives labour lib dems and snp does need to be clarified for the next election.

It's not a scandal or fraud. Everyone saw the battle buses. It's not like the activists were shipped in secretly. People were falling over themselves on Twitter everytime a bus came to visit.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:01 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
There is no contradiction between 'they can throw the key away' and 'it's trifling'. First you have take take into consideration my attitude to politicians.

And, I may be wrong, but I don't think I ever called it 'trifling', did I? 'Relatively trivial' in a direct response to a comparison with corruption in Nigerian elections is what I remember.

Not like you to make stuff up, mate.

AfM 11:06 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Wrong again Surfy.

I think it's all fraud. There's a hint of double standards in the way you think it's trifling until Labour are involved and then you're all for throwing away the key.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:30 Fri Jun 3
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
, 8:57 Thu Jun 2

AfM and Ray by the look of it.

ohgodno 8:57 Thu Jun 2
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:25 Thu Jun 2

I think if a bit of over spending on buses stops you beating the worst group of politicians ever to represent the Conservatives (worse even that Major's bunch of fuckwits) then you should probably keep quiet about it.

It's like losing to a football team consisting exclusively of Downsers and complaining because one of them was not registered properly.

And all conservatives are nothing if not ideological Downsers.

, 8:57 Thu Jun 2
Re: Tories Election Expenses Scandal
Who is guilty of double standards?

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