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CanningTownWA 6:18 Mon Sep 26
High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/sep/25/blitzed-norman-ohler-adolf-hitler-nazi-drug-abuse-interview

Very interesting, short extract below

The book in question is The Total Rush – or, to use its superior English title, Blitzed – which reveals the astonishing and hitherto largely untold story of the Third Reich’s relationship with drugs, including cocaine, heroin, morphine and, above all, methamphetamines (aka crystal meth), and of their effect not only on Hitler’s final days – the Führer, by Ohler’s account, was an absolute junkie with ruined veins by the time he retreated to the last of his bunkers – but on the Wehrmacht’s successful invasion of France in 1940.

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Mirkwood 7:23 Fri Sep 30
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
On the Nazi theme.
Have you ever watched ' Hitler. The Greatest Story Never Told'..?

Certainly made me think.

Northern Sold 5:48 Thu Sep 29
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
British troops used 72 million amphetamine tablets in the second world war and the RAF used so many that "Methedrine won the Battle of Britain" according to one report

stomper 5:06 Thu Sep 29
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
billywhitehorse 3:05 Thu Sep 29

Well, I had to retire sick last November
and as I said:

(this is why I became a teacher by the way - to try and create an enquiring mind in my students against the evil machinations of devious politicians).

billywhitehorse 3:05 Thu Sep 29
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Stomper - I hope you are encouraging your students to question the current indoctrination of pupils in British schools about the wonders of multiculturism.

I did 18 years as a teacher so I saw this on a daily basis.

stomper 2:09 Wed Sep 28
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:12 Tue Sep 27

True, you had to join the Hitler Jugend at the time. A woman I know who grew up at the same time said that it was virtually impossible not to be a Nazi, it was all that was taught in the schools and all you heard on the radio (this is why I became a teacher by the way - to try and create an enquiring mind in my students against the evil machinations of devious politicians).
Its hard to imagine how much control Hitler had over the media.
I think Trautmann said that he bought into the whole ideology until he saw atrocities in the Ukraine.
I'm fairly sure the he was quoted in the Guardians epitaph to a quite remarkable man

bruuuno 11:22 Tue Sep 27
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eastham75 9:23 Tue Sep 27
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Not just the SAS, bomber command crews were given amphetamines to keep them alert on long missions.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:12 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
stomper 8:22 Mon Sep 26

Bert Trautmann was 13 in 1936 when membership of the HJ became compulsory for all 'Ayrans'. I'm not sure that's evidence enough to make him a Nazi, although he could have been for all I know.

Dr Moose 10:41 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Or you could watch the programme that is frequently repeated on the History channels called "High Hitler".

Lily Hammer 10:39 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
The author has done a good job giving credance to rumours that have been knocking about for a long time. I'd always been open to these rumours when you hear of some of the uber-nutty actions of SS officers and certain divisions of troops.

I think you'll find all our world leaders are strung out on something or other. Help to sleep on demand and help to wake up on demand. Understandable when you think of the shifts top leaders put in.

ivan 10:16 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
No wonder they all fucked off to south america

chad sexington 10:08 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Fascinating article that. Will pick up a copy of the book.

eastham75 9:23 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
on a similar vein no pun intended, i read a book last year about the guys who set up what became the SAS , short stories of their hit and run tactics all hush hush, but supported by Churchill, but they claimed that they were all on Amphetemines to stay awake and to give them the adreniline rush they needed to at times kill in Cold blood.

alfie romeo 12:27 Tue Sep 27
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
I remember being in prague in the 90s and some of the local clubbers and kids were using this thing called nazi krank. German soldiers used to take it in the war cause life expectancy on the eastern front was 7 days so you didn't have time to sleep.

Hammer and Pickle 10:57 Mon Sep 26
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I'd like to start therapy any time.

Darlo Debs 10:52 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
This has a The Producers remake written all over it.

Far Cough 9:31 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Two famous users of dihydrocodeine were William S. Burroughs, who described it as "twice as strong as codeine and almost as good as heroin" and Hermann Gring, who consumed up to 100 tablets (3 grams) of dihydrocodeine per day and was captured by the Allies with a large quantity of the drug in a suitcase, reportedly more than twenty thousand tablets, quite probably the entire world supply at the time.[7] He was also very fond of morphine and oxycodone (Eukodal), beginning with therapeutic use of morphine after being wounded in the groin during the November 1923 Beer Hall Putsch in Munich and then specifically starting dihydrocodeine therapy in the early 1930s for a toothache

Far Cough 9:29 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Goering was a Morphine addict, strictly speaking, Dihydrocodeine, which is a mild form of Morphine

bruuuno 9:15 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Goering was a coke head I believe. Would fit in well in the BML

normannomates 8:29 Mon Sep 26
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Pickle
Haha

Hammer and Pickle 8:26 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Bet the quality of the bugle in those days was truly Wagnerian.

gph 8:24 Mon Sep 26
Re: High Hitler: how Nazi drug abuse steered the course of history
Dr Morell was so incompetent that some reckon he was an Allied agent, and was poisoning Adolf on purpose

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