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Chigwell 8:05 Mon Oct 31
Rolls Royce corruption shock horror
On Panorama tonight. Said to have paid bribes to win contracts in China and Indonesia. So how else do you do business in those countries?

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Hermit Road 1:42 Tue Nov 1
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This happened in the biggest communist state in history. the problem here is the big state, not capitalism.

Alvin 1:22 Tue Nov 1
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I know, capitalism is wonderful innit? It provides jobs for us all, what's a little corruption under the counter?

Mike Oxsaw 11:10 Tue Nov 1
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riosleftsock 9:21 Tue Nov 1

If you sleep with dogs, you WILL get fleas. As was pointed out earlier, you can choose to live and run with the pack or take a moral - but ultimately fatal - stand.

The British have institutionalised the practice and bury the international side of it in what they call "Foreign Aid" - a catch-all term for payment practices "not openly discussed in a civilised society".

And as we all know, if you don't talk about something, it doesn't actually exist.

riosleftsock 9:21 Tue Nov 1
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Palms are greased.

Wheels are oiled.

Cuntery.

, 12:36 Tue Nov 1
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The BBC is funded by a licence fee not through direct taxes. Indeed many taxpayers do not have or need a TV licence.

Crassus 12:31 Tue Nov 1
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Spot on Mike

Absolute tosh the lot of it, grease the wheels of commerce and do so better than the rest to win the deal, the deal is all that matters ffs

Dont like it? You must work in the public sector paid for by the private sector that does the deal

The sooner the Beeb is fucked off from the tax payer the better

Mike Oxsaw 11:02 Mon Oct 31
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The problem with the British - more particularly with the \\english is that they firmly believe that everybody behaves like a gentleman and all deals are done at face value in the open.

The reality is, every major deal around the world gets one or more sweeteners to get it going. They accept "Oiling the palms of industry", without fully understanding what it actually means.

A dinner ar a restaurant after a contract is signed, maybe when what actually swings a deal is getting a go on a few of the better looking "waitresses" serving that night.

Don't like that concept? Tough shit - no matter how much YOU don't like it, that's the way it is.

It goes on in the "civilised" world, too, only what tends to happen is ministers, politicians and civil servants are "persuaded" to frame (government (dependent)) contracts in such a manner that only a "preferred bidder" has any possibility of winning the bid.

When the unexpected happens (Airbus winning the bid to supply tanker aircraft for the US Air-force, for instance), the contract is altered, often not so subtly, to make sure there's a "legitimate" new condition that is not attainable by the unwanted bidder, and thus people in the west can nod their heads and state "OK, That's very fair.".

wansteadman 10:56 Mon Oct 31
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Labour were desperately trying to pin some sort of bribe on the conservative bloke over Nissan at the weekend. Personally I couldn't give a fuck if they had promised them something, this was going on for ages with the Saudis a few years ago. You bung them and get it back on the contracts

Any Old Iron 10:03 Mon Oct 31
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If Panorama are telling us that a great British manufacturer is having to bung a few quid to obtain contracts with crooked countries, then the holier than thou, liberal Guardianista BBC should be fucking ahsamed of themselves.
What would they rather RR did, just give in to other companies that were prepared to hand over the bungs.
The trouble with most of the cunts in the BBC is they live in another world where they're protected from the harsh realities of business and can happily look down on the rest of us who have to make a profit to survive.

Hermit Road 9:15 Mon Oct 31
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I think they should play it clean, close the business, put a load of people out of work and watch on telly as the German/US economy grows richer by picking up the contracts.


It's the only fair thing to do.

RBshorty 8:10 Mon Oct 31
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This has been happening since the end of the war. And this is suppose to be news.?

riosleftsock 8:07 Mon Oct 31
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There is no other way to win work in those countries, and many others.

There is a story here, somewhere.





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