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KingandPaynter 1:45 Fri Jan 13
Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Should the club stick to buying British players like Cresswell, Antonio? With the exception if they've been with another British team (Di Canio with Celtic). Even the good one's last a season then fall away, apart from Ludo, Reid, Lanzini etc

The cost of this lot !

Mascherano
Futre
Răducioiu
Boogers
Faubert
Tore
Payet
Camara
McCarthy
Nsereko
Calleri
Zaza
Feghouli
Masuaku
Valencia
Sakho (moody)
Akew (jury out)
Tevez (hero but an expensive one)

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Full Claret Jacket 11:52 Sat Jan 14
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
The French often feel they are entitled to things others are not. They won't even sign the employment contracts at work as it goes against their constitution.
You forgot Piquionne. Another waste of space. Carlton Cole for all he lacked was worth 10 of him.
Let's hope Brexit stops second rate foreign players coming here and sees a return to looking at our own game and young players.

Tomshardware 9:57 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Yaniv Katan.

KingandPaynter 9:50 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
twat

Badhabit 9:44 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
I don't think there are any clear factors to do with foreign players, except they may take longer to adjust to English culture, climate, language etc. (and let's face it, big money clubs can give foreign players more time to settle, though seemingly less so in recent years). Psychological profiling might be a way forward, but there are some obvious things, like dossiers on their previous track record (and Payet has some 'previous'). One thing we should be wary of is using us as a stepping stone to 'bigger things'. Fernandes for instance has already indicated he would like to play for a 'big club' one day. But then again even supposedly dyed in the wool hammers did that (Cottee, Ince).

jim@chickenrun 9:44 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
You forgot bilic,fucking off to Everton for more dosh.

stomper 9:33 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Right. We sign Barton forthwith

gph 7:45 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Stranded's right, I was wrong.

We even had trouble with amateurs

W.V.T. "Vivian" GIBBINS
Proud Amateur, pioneer of player power.

William Vivian Talbot (Viv) Gibbins was born in Forest Gate on 10th August 1901.

A talented footballer, he played for Clapton while training as a schoolteacher. In 1923, whilst still at the Dog, he signed as a amateur for West Ham United and he made his debut for the Hammers in a game against Nottingham Forest on 15th December 1923.

Gibbins continued to play for Clapton and he won the FA Amateur Cup with the club in 1924 and 1925. Gibbins also won two amateur international caps against France during this period.

Still on the books of West Ham, Gibbins' played in only one game for West Ham United in the 1925-26 season and scored two goals in the 6-0 victory over Bolton Wanderers.

Whilst registered with Clapton, he made two England appearances, both against France, scoring twice in a 3-1 victory on 17 May 1924 and once on 21 May 1925. Gibbins went off injured after 35 minutes of the latter game. England finished with nine men, but managed to hang on to win the game 3-2. Gibbins was one of the last amateur footballers to feature for England.

The 1926-27 season saw the beginning of the break up of the famous Clapton Amateur Cup winning teams as Bill Bryant now playing at Millwall and Stan Earle had moved to West Ham the previous season. Gibbins was persuaded to link up again with Earle at the Boleyn and made 22 appearances for the irons that season.

Viv Gibbins continued to play at West Ham but his teaching commitments limited his appearances. However, he remained a consistent goalscorer (total of 63 goals in 138 games).

His time at West Ham ended somewhat acrimoniously when West Ham refused to release him from his one-year amateur contract. Viv had not been included in the West Ham team and according some newspapers, felt that he was "not being selected for the level of football that his talent warrants." At one stage, West Ham offered him professional terms, which he refused, so he eventually he took take his case to the Football Association for adjudication.

A consequence of this was that Clapton benefited by his turning out for the Tons in the meantime (he was still a member), Nonetheless, Gibbins wanted to continue playing in the Football League. A month later, West Ham released him and he joined Brentford. He later signed for Bristol Rovers and Southampton before joining Leyton for whom he played in the 1934 Amateur Cup Final.

The following season Viv joined Catford Wanderers for whom he played until his retirement from the game in 1939.

However, in the 1940s Viv returned to the Old Spotted Dog as trainer of the Clapton team. He was also the headmaster of Harold Road School in West Ham.

The entrance to the Old Spotted Dog Ground at Disraeli Road, Forest Gate is called the Vivian Gibbins Memorial Gate.

Viv Gibbins died at Herne Bay, Kent on 21st November 1979

http://www.claptonfc.info/feat/plrs/gibbins.htm

The Joker 7:43 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
I could write a list as long as your arm of foreign played who have been good for us but I really can't be arsed.

The problem is we shop in the PL equivalent of Poundland, not whether they are British or not.

Stranded 7:23 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
To be fair. Signing anyone is often trouble for us.

geoffpikey 7:19 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
mallard 6:07 Fri Jan 13

"Could definitely be a French thing as other clubs have had problems with the likes of Anelka, Ginola and even Cantona"

Or, it is definitely NOT a French thing as you only have to look at Henry, Vierra, Desailly, Makelele, Evra... Ignore their CLUBS.

Willtell 6:20 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Sakho is Senegalese but French clubs have for years been dredging Africa for all the decent young players to fill their academies. They bring them over by the hundreds each year and many fail...

Even Payet is actually from Reunion which is in the Indian Ocean way off from Madagascar but it is French.

geoffpikey 6:19 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Psychological profiling of potential signings could possibly play a bigger role. Don't know how many clubs do it. BBC article from 2013 here. (I won't C&P, you may not care).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/21194843

But to suggest any problem is "foreign players" per se is abject nonsense.

The Hammers 6:12 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons

Reply dealcanvey 3:36 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Latest 3 to kick up a fuss.

Amalfitano, Sakho, Payet.

All french. All cunts.
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Sakho? French?

franksfat&slow&wank 6:07 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
you have to weight up the money wasted on loans and foreign players vrs biting the bullet and spending several million more on proven British or foreign

the bottom line is its a bloody lotto which is why clubs will continue to take chances because if one comes off like payet, lanzini its a potential cash cow

most fans at clubs outside the top ones probably have discussions like this on their forums

soton are the only ones who appear to have a decent track record in the last few years?

mallard 6:07 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Could definitely be a French thing as other clubs have had problems with the likes of Anelka, Ginola and even Cantona

Gloucester Iron 6:03 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
The main problem is that when shopping in Aldi or The Pound Shop, you know you're gambling.

From that somewhat limited list, not counting Payet and with the notable exception of another one season wonder from Tevez, that rest were all fucking pony and cheap anyway.

You get what you pay for, as we know all too fucking well...

geoffpikey 5:58 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Need more PROPER stout RELIABLE ENGLISHMEN.

Likes of Dyer, Bowyer, Joey Barton, "Ravel"...


Jesus wept.

dealcanvey 3:36 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Latest 3 to kick up a fuss.

Amalfitano, Sakho, Payet.

All french. All cunts.

Your mum 3:24 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
JOEY BEUCHAMP
CRAIG BELLAMY
FATTY LAMPARD
SNIDE DEFOE
RAV MORRISON

ALL BRITISH CUNTS!!
HTHYFC

Eric Hitchmoe 3:18 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
The story of Joey Beauchamp will tell you this is not true...

gph 3:14 Fri Jan 13
Re: Signing foreign players is often trouble for the Irons
Signing professional players has often been trouble for the Irons.

Bring back Arnold Hills!

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