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mashed in maryland 10:52 Fri Jan 20
Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
A father and son have successfully challenged the police over the use of new powers – setting an important legal precedent for fans and winning compensation in the process.

Back on Saturday 26th March 2016, Wrexham fans made the long trip east to watch their side face Grimsby Town. Both sides were flying high and the Mariners won the game 1-0, eventually winning promotion to the EFL via the National League play-offs in May.

However, the fixture could have far wider ramifications than simply being part of the back story to Grimsby Town’s promotion. It’s a story that could affect fans across the UK.

An hour before kick-off Humberside Police stopped a minibus carrying around 60 supporters at a service station on the A180. After holding the vehicle for an hour police offers ordered the vehicle to turn around and return to Wrexham.

No arrests were made and the Daily Post reported that: “None of the fans on the bus were subject to banning orders”.

A number of fans present contacted the Football Supporters’ Federation to complain that they had done nothing wrong and were deeply unhappy with Humberside Police’s actions.

We then passed these details on to our legal contacts and the case was taken up by Lochlinn Parker, a solicitor at Irvine Thanvi Natas, and Jude Bunting, a barrister from Doughty Street Chambers.
One pair of fans affected were a father and son - and Lochlinn believed they had an especially strong case which could help set a legal precedent. Both father and son wish to remain anonymous.

Humberside Police had used Section 35 of the Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014 to stop fans attending the game but Lochlinn said: “They were over-reaching in using the power against a group of people rather than making an individual assessment of whether it was right to use it against each person.”

That proved to be the case as Humberside Police have now accepted the power can only be used after an individual assessment – and not in a blanket manner against an entire group.

They also accepted they should not have used a police escort to force fans to leave, did not have the power to film fans when taking their details, and have therefore agreed to delete all records of individuals previously kept on file. They have also agreed to pay a small but satisfactory sum of compensation to the father and son.

“This case is important because it is the first time this new power has been successfully challenged in Court,” Lochlinn said.

In 2009 Stoke City fans brought a case against Greater Manchester Police in respect of the old power (Section 27 of the Violent Crime and Reduction Act 2007) with the help of the FSF and Liberty.

“That led to a re-writing of the guidance for how the power should be used by the police nationwide,” Lochlinn says.

“This Wrexham case should do the same thing. There have been a number of cases where police forces have turned back groups or coaches long before it would be reasonable to say that the occupants were even likely to engage in anti-social behaviour.

“We hope that this will now stop.”

A similar case is also on-going with involving Bristol City fans who say they were falsely imprisoned by West Midlands Police.

Around 50 Robins fans were rounded up and ordered to leave Birmingham in September 2015. Bristol City Supporters Club & Trust launched a civil action against West Midlands Police claiming false imprisonment and a breach of Article 5 of the European Convention of Human Rights.

FSF caseworker Amanda Jacks said she hoped the Wrexham case would encourage other supporters to come forward who have been subjected to dispersal orders.

The FSF has heard anecdotal evidence that these powers have been used elsewhere but can only act on that information if the fans involved are also willing to pursue the case.

"I'm very grateful to Lochlinn Parker and Jude Bunting for their work on this case and that gratitude extends to the Wrexham supporters who were willing to put themselves forward as clients,” says Amanda.

“It can be daunting to bring an action against the police, even when there are strong grounds to do so, but we want to hear from fans who have potentially been treated unlawfully.

"We take all complaints seriously and, by standing up for your rights, you might also help protect your fellow fans across the country. Get in touch.”

Dispersal orders: what you need to know...
Watching Football Is Not A Crime! is part of the FSF's ongoing drive to monitor the police in their dealings with football fans and work with them to ensure that all fans are treated fairly and within the law. You can contact FSF Caseworker Amanda Jacks via:
Twitter: @FSF_Faircop
Email: faircop@fsf.org.uk

- See more at: http://www.fsf.org.uk/blog/view/wrexham-fans-challenge-new-police-power-and-win-legal-precedent#sthash.6UfwcOyA.dpuf


Interesting stuff.

This is relevant to West Ham because these sorts of laws have been used to fuck peoples' days up with us before.

Any thoughts?

Discuss.

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WHU(Exeter) 3:23 Sun Jan 22
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
Chester City vs Wrexham...the last 'bubble game' for transport in the pyramid.

Blimey.

FatboyChelseaScum 1:41 Sun Jan 22
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Sniper 10:58 Fri Jan 20

They weren't going to Grimsby though. Grimsby's ground is in Cleethorpes.

stomper 4:25 Sat Jan 21
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
60 in a minibus damn well needs to be stopped

Saul Bollox 8:08 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
The fans wanted to buy some fish to take home after the game.

Mex Martillo 8:01 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
Good job, well done

The Stoat 7:59 Fri Jan 20
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Russ of the BML 5:56 Fri Jan 20

mashed in maryland 7:31 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
Russ of the BML 5:57 Fri Jan 20

Coz they felt like it, that's the usual answer.

side effect 7:26 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
When it comes to football police live up to their other name beginning with the same letter. Was there ever a time when the south bank was terracing and we scored and no one was ejected from the ground.
Can anyone remember a last game of the season against spurs 2-2 when they come unstuck at full time. 1982.

Russ of the BML 5:57 Fri Jan 20
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I skim read it and can't see for what reason the OB gave to send them back. Anyone? Cunts OB on match days.

Russ of the BML 5:56 Fri Jan 20
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I want to know how they got 60 people in a mini-bus!!??!!

norwich hammer 11:53 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
Stoke away when Karmara done McAvennie old bill turned loads back,iirc it was first game of season,had loads up there on side of ground.

franksfat&slow&wank 11:47 Fri Jan 20
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Wrexham have a good following away from home, put the likes of Bolton, Wigan and Blackburn to shame

MTC 11:29 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
The old bill have pretty much had free licence to do what they like to football fans for years.Hopefully things are going to change.

Scraper 11:16 Fri Jan 20
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60 in one minibus does sound anti-social

Eddie B 11:15 Fri Jan 20
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The police are cunts when it comes to dealing with football fans.

Leonard Hatred 11:10 Fri Jan 20
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There's a good Wetherspoons in Grimsby.

SnarestoneIron 11:03 Fri Jan 20
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Sniper 10:58 Fri Jan 20

Just what I was wondering! Most coaches don't even carry 60 passengers, normally 54/55 :-)

Sniper 10:58 Fri Jan 20
Re: Wrexham fans challenge new police powers… and win
Jesus how did they manage to find 60 people willing to go to Grimsby in the first place, let alone 60 Wrexham fans??





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