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Mex Martillo 11:16 Tue Mar 28
Video ref
They are trying out the video ref thing on France v Spain, international friendly
Spain just scored, linesmen said no goal, off side
Ref consulted video ref and at same time TV showed replay, it was a goal, video ref agreed.
Ref gave the goal.
Did not take much more than a minute, has to become part of the game, works great.

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Any Old Iron 10:04 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
The usual half witted suspects are all for this. But they haven't got the intelligence to think it through. They seem to think it's great because their team are always on the end of 'bad' decisions - which is bollox.

But what type of decisions will be subject to VAR, and who decides when it should be reviewed? None of these matters seem to have been considered properly.

The problem is that there are only a couple of types of decisions that can be made definitively, or close to definitively. i.e. The ball crossing the line and most offsides. Some offsides are so tight there will always be disagreement.

All other offences, including handball, are usually subjective and will not necessarily be corrected by a bloke with a telly in front of him.

But just what is wrong with football that it needs this. It's the best and most popular spectator sport in the world and DOES NOT NEED TO BE FUCKED AROUND WITH.

Video refs will ruin the game, particularly for those at the game.

Tomsdad 9:43 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Bad idea!

As I mentioned, don't expect to leave the ground before 5.30 if this is implemented! And once it has been around a while, then make that 6.30!

Sven Roeder 8:15 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
I'd like some of these HONEST mistakes to go our way for once from cunts like Mike Dean.
When things 'even themselves up' this season we will give someone a 15-0 hiding with 14 pens.

claret upstart 7:19 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Yeah but will it be VHS or Betamax? Just saying like.

El Scorchio 1:30 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Mex Martillo 11:41

Probably because it was a friendly.

Can you imagine the reaction of the Man U or Chelsea players toward the ref if he gives a goal against them they don't agree with after video replay? (Even if it's legit)

Eleven red faces running up and screaming at him, probably the manager running onto the pitch as well.

Krap not Pu 1:21 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Razzle....what it will do is eradicate these "HONEST" mistakes on key game changing situations.

Razzle 10:53 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
One of the things to remember is that mistakes made by officials are honest mistakes. What VAR can potentially do is undermine what human beings are seeing in real time.
It's a hard job being a referee especially when you have 22 players trying to con you all the time.
Also being an AR is equally challenging especially when the play is on your side and you are watching for the foul, ball in and out of play and offside all at the same time...

I think VAR can be good to use in game changing decisions.
Two things remain the same playing to the whistle and the flags are advisory to the referee. It could be the case where close called offside is all referred to the VAR and that play continues until there is a stoppage and play brought back to the correct decision but how long that goes on for and what is reasonable will certainly put a change in the law.
Personally I think we love football in part for its controversy, the officials always the pantomime villains do a difficult job under massive scrutiny and it fills the back page with debate..

Baggins 9:55 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
How big is the telly? A full on 70 inch effort?

Scraper 9:53 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref

Is the gesture done with one or two hands? I want details.

Scraper 9:52 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref

I read that "If necessary, they can then stop play for an on-field review (OFR) by signalling the outline of a television screen"

Did anyone see this hand gesture?
It sounds rather silly to me, in a good way.

Baggins 9:19 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Toms - Spot on.

Yesterday worked quite well, although it was still a bit shit that the French were practically ready to kick off again after celebrating the goal before it was ruled out. And the Spanish lad thought it wasn't a goal so hadn't celebrated at all.

Goals are usually few and far between and waiting three minutes before properly celebrating one is going to suck even more fun out of the game, I'd imagine.

And as you say, how long before EVERY decision is referred to a video ref? They need to be very careful implementing this.

HairyHammer 6:16 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Technology in football is gonna happen whether we want it to or not, I am one who wants it to happen.

Tomsdad 2:17 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
Still not sure about this. Where do you draw the line!

Corners? Throw ins? Free kicks?

Do the TV companies get involved?

This could lead to American Football where an hour long game takes 3/4 hours to play!

Ronald_antly 12:39 Wed Mar 29
Re: Video ref
I don't think the linesman should flag at all, unless he is certain of an offside play.
If he thinks it MIGHT have been offside, then he should advise the referee to consult the video.

Mex Martillo 11:45 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
No idea Sven. They did not show the screens in the ground.

It was one of those when defender and attacker are exactly in line when ball kicked, clear on side, but very hard to call, especially as linesman was a bit behind play running to catch up, which would make it look off side from his angle behind the players.

Mex Martillo 11:41 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
They just interviewed the player, said he thought it would not be a goal as he saw the flag and everyone looking at the ref when he gave up celebrating.

The thing that impressed me most was no one either before or after the decision argued or bothered the ref. It was like no point, cannot influence the decision.

claret50 11:39 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
Long overdue imo, I watched the game too and it seemed to take less than a minute to reach the correct decision.

Sven Roeder 11:37 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
Did the fans at the ground see the replay?
Some of these decisions are impossible to see in real time and you suspect refs guess. And that often means an unconcious ( I am giving them the benefit of the doubt) bias towards bigger teams.

bertie 11:34 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
Has to be some time limit, if they can't overturn the original decision within a minute then the original decision stands. Can't stand it when they spend an age at the rugby going over half a dozen different angles.
Unless the original decision is obviously wrong it must stand.

Mex Martillo 11:31 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
RM10
I guess at the ground just waiting it will feel longer
Commentator said it took 1 and a half, did not feel that long to me.

Mex Martillo 11:29 Tue Mar 28
Re: Video ref
By the way spain just won 2-0,
judas cunt on the bench and not used

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