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Gazza_AZ 3:40 Tue Apr 11
Brexit and Football
The FA has applied for an exemption to the rule about foreign workers needing to meet a stricter standard when the UK finally leaves the mess that is the European Union. Since many on here have wanted to restrict foreigners in our league for a long time, and provide more opportunities for British players (well maybe not the Scots then) is this going to be a bad thing - and should the FA receive approval for their exemption request ?

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Gazza_AZ 10:07 Wed Apr 12
Re: Brexit and Football
I would have to hope that this signals a potential improvement in the opportunities afforded to Home-grown players, and MUST be a good thing for the English National team.
On a side-note - if Scotland remains in the EU - we might need to get rid of Snodgrass - I know that will upset a few NOT.

Mike Oxsaw 10:00 Wed Apr 12
Re: Brexit and Football
I guess it just depends on how much the FA want England to win something significant at international level.

There's a finite number of places in premiership football teams/squads and if a large(-ish) proportion of those places are filled by non-English players then it is detrimental to the DEVELOPMENT of home-grown talent.

PL teams (AND their supporters) want the best NOW so they simply buy that talent in from wherever - fuck waiting around for a kid to develop - and fuck giving that kid a place in their own first team to learn how that first team plays, first hand.

Willtell 6:46 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
I think there are far too many poor European footballers in UK at the moment. Many are of a poor standard and not just in the PL either.

Westside 12:31 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
I have no problem with the current rules and believe the amount of foreign players, raises the standards that English players have to compete against and aspire to and benefits the England national team.

However post Brexit in 2019, EU footballers should have the same immigration rules as footballers from the rest of world.

As should every business and industry, in the UK.

riosleftsock 12:20 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
"Thing is, under current work permit rules, we wouldn't have been able to sign payet "

Yes we probably would. If you check the exceptions rule and look at how the criteria are scored, he will have scored high enough to be recommended by the FA for GBE to be issued to the Home Office who would then grant his work permit.

Northern Sold 12:07 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Willtell 11:15 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football

Reply Northern Sold 11:03

Sounds like obstruction to me Soldo...

I wouldn't have put you down as a civil servant btw. Uncivil servant perhaps...



* nods head in agreement *

My name is mud in senior management circles... and something I'm quite proud about as well...

Dr Moose 12:04 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Darby_ 11:58 Tue Apr 11

H&P can't help it, a thread with the B word in the title and its like a red rag to a bull for him especially once NR has posted a comment.

Darby_ 11:58 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Stick to the topic of football, you lemons.

I'd love to see more English and British kids given a chance and not horded and wasted by the big clubs, but the Premier League is primarily a money-making venture.

People, as fans, would have to put pressure on the Premier League for anything to change.

Willtell 11:15 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Reply Northern Sold 11:03

Sounds like obstruction to me Soldo...

I wouldn't have put you down as a civil servant btw. Uncivil servant perhaps...

Hammer and Pickle 11:12 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Ratched says SMITE the civil servants.

Nurse Ratched 11:10 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
We don't elect civil servants. You are mere functionaries.

Northern Sold 11:03 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Nurse Ratched 10:48 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football

Civil servants OBSTRUCT what the govt tells them to do.



Not normally Nursey... this is how it normally works

1. Government say DO THIS
2. We analyses it tell them the implications and the massive cost to DO THIS
3. Government say... Don't care DO THIS... bring in shit loads of contractors on £700 per day ... DO THIS has to be done.
4. Again we go back and tell them that DO THIS is not going to be worth the grief and expenditure to public purse and that we have massive reservations still.
5. Government say tough shit DO THIS needs to go ahead so hire 500 contractors at £700 a day we go ahead and start on the project DO THIS even though we all know deep down it's not going to work.
6. 12 Months down the line the Government pull the plug on DO THIS.

Next year.... start again

stewie griffin 10:54 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
No...Nathan the Brazilian kid

Thing is, under current work permit rules, we wouldn't have been able to sign payet

So either things will stay exactly as they are, or they'll relax work permit rules. You'd imagine so anyway, can't see them screwing themselves like that

Spandex Sidney 10:49 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
I'd love to see a limit on the number of foreigners but I don't think it's in the remit of freedom of movement.

Sadly the money will win and we will have complete freedom of movement for multimillionaire footballers

Nurse Ratched 10:48 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Civil servants OBSTRUCT what the govt tells them to do.

Willtell 10:46 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Well that's the point stewie. Civil servants do what they are told by politicians so we can't be sure where the line will get drawn.

Brexit means the country is going to control its borders better. Nathan Ake I guess you mean, would not get a work permit because he wasn't a full Dutch international when Chelsea signed him at 18. I don't even think he's a full international now is he?

stewie griffin 10:25 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Yep, I'd imagine so, tell

So what you'll see us players like that Nathan that chelsea signed getting a work permit straight away rather than the qualifying rules now. After all...they're coming here to work, get paid and pay tax, so the work permit rules aren't really in the civil servants interest.

Willtell 10:22 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
One thing I am sure of is that the British civil servants will apply the rules to everyone the same whether from Europe, South America, India, North Korea, United Caliphate of ISIS or China...

Baggins 10:19 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
I'd imagine the Premier League will be pushing hard for an exemption because it is obviously in their interest but is Brexit going to make a huge difference....I can't really see that to be honest. Most of the superstars the top clubs buy are full internationals so would get a work permit anyway.

Look at our recent signings. Fegs, Nordy, Fonte, Zaza, Tore, etc are all full internationals and would have no trouble coming here.

What it might stop is the HOARDING of hundreds of youngsters by the likes of Chelsea and Man City, which would be a very good thing.

stewie griffin 10:16 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
Don't think it'll make too much difference tbh. If they are more strict on Europeans, they'll just balance it by being less strict on other parts of the world so we'll see more south Americans.

Full Claret Jacket 10:09 Tue Apr 11
Re: Brexit and Football
If it transpires that those with EU passports need work permits it would mean a major shift in English football.
I think it would be great for the game however it would be Brady and the Premier Leagues worst nightmare. Big impact on TV rights where demand from other countries is all about following locally born heroes.
No more poaching young players from across Europe, Africa or South America that have EU passports. It could potentially alter Champions League squads drastically as well.

It's all good for young British players as far as I can see but as there is a vast amount of money (and tax) involved it won't happen and they will get some exception made to carry on.

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