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teddyp 8:17 Sat Jul 8
Overseas English Test Players
It is time to take a stand against “Overseas English Players” playing Test Cricket
Jennings SA
Ballance Zim
Out
We have enough emerging talent without resulting to selection for test matches akin to the 80’s 90’s (Hick, Lamb, Smith etc.)
Tom Westley in
Mason Crane in
Mark Stoneman in

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Swiss. 11:39 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Martin McCague was born in NI so how is that overseas. Well I mean it's still Britain.

Ted Dexter, Phil Edmonds and Derek Pringle were all born overseas.

Who was that Aussie left arm FM bowler who played for us.


Who can forget the kiwi Andy Caddick?

Northern Sold 10:56 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Eerie just wants players to represent England that were born in Bermondsey and Deptford… the Millwall cunt

On The Ball 10:45 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Pietersen, whether people like him or not, is half English. I think that gives him the right to choose.

Sarge - I suspect you don't mean Gareth Barry, unless you've gone a little off-topic!

fraser 1:21 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
*Jennings

fraser 1:19 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Jennifer mum is English he has dual citizenship since he was born, so entitled to work in England as English and also just as entitled to play for us as he is for S.Africa.


I live in Australia, my kids have been here since 4 and 2 they have duel citizenship and see themselves as totally English.

Eerie Descent 12:55 Tue Jul 11
Re: Overseas English Test Players
I'm failing to see the point with naming these players from the past?

SO FUCKING WHAT?

It shouldn't have been allowed then, it shouldn't be allowed now. Take Trott, he captained the Saffas at U19 level, how the fuck is that right?

Far Cough 10:46 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Nobody mentions Basil D'Oliviera?

Sarge 10:44 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Tony Greig
Allan lamb
Robin and Chris Smith.
Martin mccague

England greats from another decade.




Gareth Barry was at my club this evening coaching our u14s

Top bloke

Sven Roeder 10:03 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
I think Hameed will come in for Jennings at some point.
And I can't see Ballance lasting ... still think Buttler will come back at some point and Root WILL eventually bat 3

Jennings to me seems VERY South African.
Believe he played all the way through school and junior cricket with De Kock and some were saying part of the reason he left was because he felt overshadowed a bit. DeKock is a very exciting player to be fair.

Eerie Descent 9:53 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
The worst thing is, I never agreed with KP playing for England, but at least with him, he was one of the best in the world, was thrilling to watch, and you could just about stomach it. But you've got Ballance, who is possibly the ugliest batter I've seen play for England, and not only is he shit, but he's batting at NUMBER THREE. He bats at 5 for his county for fuck sake. Truly, truly baffling.

And again, when I watch him and Jennings together, like with KP and Trott, I don't enjoy it at all, because I'm watching a game without 1 Englishman on the pitch, and really, what is the fucking point in that? I find myself hoping one of them gets out.

Sven Roeder 8:49 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
I'm hoping to see two English born players in Australia's Ashes team in November.
And a Pakistani

That said I do think England have taken advantage of their financial advantage over S Africa to take some players who really should be PROTEAS.
Plus Chris Jordan who was bought by giving him a school scholarship.

Any Old Iron 7:10 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
If you've lived in the UK for pretty much your whole life but had the misfortune to be born elsewhere then you're pretty much as British as the next bloke.
What I can't stomach is this chase for blokes who've not been here 5 minutes and end up playing rugby union for England like Denny Solomona from New Zealand. He's only played Union in England for one season.
And Tennis are no better. They're trying to get some Latvian or suchlike to be able to play Davis cup. It's fucking pathetic.
What's the point of playing under a countries flag if any old herbert can play. I take no pride in an England team half full of foreigners, particularly when it's captained by a cowardly Paddy.

Alex G 6:15 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
It's been a constant thing since I started following cricket at the beginning of the nineties. I wonder in ll that time how many times there's been an England test team in which all the players were born in England.

Eerie Descent 4:55 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Couldn't agree more with the OP.

Guys like Stokes, Strauss, Prior, they grew up in England, went to school in England, came through the system. Ask them what they are, and they'll say English.

KP, Trott, Ballance, Jennings should be nowhere near the England team. Watching the first innings of this match, when Cook got out, tgere was 13 Africans on the pitch. Honestly, what even is that? That is not international Cricket, that's a farce.

lowermarshhammer 4:39 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Think Phil the Greek would have been a fearsome quickie in his youth, happy to tour and launch cannonballs at the the natives.

lowermarshhammer 4:36 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Terry Butcher born in Singapore
Phil the Greek born in Corfu
Joe Strummer born in Turkey
John Barnes born in Kingston Jamaica
Nasser Hussain born in Madras, 100% Essex

IIRC Keaton Jennings mother is a Geordie. Or from up that way anyway.

Don't really have an issue with foreign born players, I am more concerned with players who change nations after having already played for one country eg Eoin Morgan

Westside 4:26 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Where do you draw the line?

Matt Prior was born in South Africa

Andrew Strauss was born in South Africa

Nasser Hussain was born in India.

3 more passionate English cricketers you could not find.

Far Cough 4:20 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Tell him Angelo Matthews doesn't sound very Sri Lankan

BubblesCyprus 4:12 Mon Jul 10
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Taken a bit of earache from Sri Lankan guy that works for me asking Moeen Ali does not sound very English.

Chigwell 10:49 Sat Jul 8
Re: Overseas English Test Players
You want Ben Stokes out?

teddyp 8:47 Sat Jul 8
Re: Overseas English Test Players
Moeen Ali - Born Birmingham?

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