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Q: 2017/18 Leicester (h)
a. Moyes has had all week with the whole squad and that will make a difference, Win
15%
  
b. Where do we start, a point would be good, Draw
11%
  
c. Let's be honest we're a shambles, still letting in two goals a game so what chance, Lose
42%
  
d. "You've destroyed our fucking Club", the only way to get the pride back in WHUFC is when the Clowns leave, Who's up for a protest?
26%
  
e. Can you believe my luck, another game on SKY so back to the pub, head to toe in club merchandise and show that I'm hardcore West Ham who follows the Club home and away from my seat at the bar
5%
  



young woody 10:30 Mon Jul 10
I'm starting to panic chaps!
Wimbledon is into its 2nd week.
The test match has started.

And we haven't signed a striker.

Officially panic stations has arrived at woods towers!

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Johnson 8:47 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Will you shut up about the fucking Mahrez fee comma, that's the third time at least I reckon you've mentioned it today.

We got a few for Payet and supposedly bring in more revenue than Leicester, why don't you harp on about that?

13 Brentford Rd 8:46 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Which they haven't got yet and may not get at all.
How about the PAYET fee?

13 Brentford Rd 8:43 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
I was underwhelmed when they took over. We have had this conversion before. Are you going senile?

, 8:41 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
13, don't forget to factor in their Mahrez fee.

Johnson 8:39 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Well done for catching up Rylan, some of us have know from the start those lying cheapskate money grabbing cunts have NEVER had any of what you described.

When I say some, I mean of course only a few.

13 Brentford Rd 8:37 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Surface, so they earned 37m more than us in total for winning the league and playing in the CL, we get bigger crowds though and charge more.
They also only got promoted 3 years ago after 10 years in the Championship but they can buy a player a year ago for 10m more than us a year ago and bid 40m for a player today.
Can you explain how Burnley, Palace, Huddersfield and Bournemouth can outspend us too?

Thames Ironworks 8:32 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Remember this is the summer transfer window, if they fuck this up January is going to be a lot more expensive than now.

13 Brentford Rd 8:31 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Just read in The Standard that Spurs new stadium will cost THEM 800m. They will still spend a bit on one or two additions this window too despite finishing 2nd.
Gavros, I realised 2 years ago that they were taking us nowhere and didn't have the ambition, nous or cash to fulfil their promises, put a thread up on here about and got mullered.
They are worse than two bob though, as they are clinging on in spite of the club until they can sell without the taxpayer getting a cut. Taking us backwards.

Stevethehammer 8:09 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Long gone are the days when you could get a good deal on a player. Nowadays bang average players seem to start at 20 million plus. Ruined by agents and other parasites within football. If we are after someone like Arnautovic and stoke want 25 million, if we don't pay it guaranteed another club like crystal palace would as the market has exploded and we seem to be the ones still wanting it to be fair and open, sorry ds that changed a long time ago and its time to start joining the party.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:00 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
13 Brentford Rd 5:06 Mon Jul 10

'The 30m was a year ago Surface,'

I don't suppose they got their £20 million CL money before they played, did they?

And, for the record, Leicester got £27 million just in CL prize money, before TV monies were dibbed out and gate receipts counted.

http://www.cityam.com/260971/leicester-city-set-biggest-champions-league-revenue

DJH 7:48 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Reply Alex V 6:51 Mon Jul 10

We will have to agree to disagree on this, in this day and age with the amount of parties involved you will have a pretty good idea of what sort of an offer will make a deal happen at any given time and only if circumstances change is say a lower bid likely to be ever accepted.

If a club is expect a fee way over our valuation then clearly it is not worth continuing our interests unless we are prepared to sit and wait for something to change but in doing so run the risk of not only losing out on this player but others we have been unable to approach as a result.

It is a seller's market at present and unless somehow it is one of those few instances where the buying club hold a stronger hand do you see an in demand player transferred for less than selling clubs asking price.

I clearly stated that this shouldn't be one size fits all to our targets but to those where the only obstacle to completing a transfer on a player that we feel would be important to us is our reluctance to meet a valuation that ultimately others will.

We can continue spending a fortune on the scatter gun approach trying to unearth rough diamonds and players past their prime at rock bottom prices or simply do something different.

Jasnik 7:05 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
I wet my knickers weeks ago!.

Alex V 6:51 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
DJH 6:27 Mon Jul 10

I disagree. You speak as if an 'under bid' is a known figure before negotiations start. I simply doubt bidding low in a negotiation for a player has any negative consequences at all. And we simply don't know in most cases what West Ham bid for each player they target.

If we bid £20m for Modeste and they refuse, and the media say they want £40m, did we under-bid? Well not necessarily - we may have thought £20m was a very fair offer, and may actually have been the top limit at which we thought the transfer was worthwhile. It's not an under-bid, it's a realistic bid. If you're advocating just paying out whatever number a club comes up with then we will go broke very quickly. And any player that we bid for in future the asking price will go up massively.

It's a negotiation. There is no knowable fixed price that clubs would accept up front. Players are worth what clubs can get, and what they can get is based on what clubs bid. So unless we bid we don't find out what an under-bid even is. What do we bid? Well it's probably quite sensible to bid low. This idea that somehow we are approaching transfers wrong I think is invented, because there's no real evidence that we're approaching the issue any differently than any other club - if we're doing it wrong, so is everyone else.

Everton bid £30m for Sigurdsson and it was rejected apparently. Should their fans be up in arms that they 'underbid'?

>>> The money involved football today means £20m is probably what you would be paying for a modern day Michael Hughes so it really the is kind of money we should be expect to pay for any Premier League quality player.

I agree. And that's entirely why we should be avoiding that mainstream market and look at alternatives to it. With that logic we would make very average signings that wouldn't improve us at all and pay through the nose to do it. Why do we want to do that? That's exactly the last thing we should be trying to do. That's the problem!!!

>>> The most logical thing for our owners to have done was to invest heavily in the Development and Youth

Guess what? It still is!

Gavros 6:51 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Theyre two bob, 13, I think most of us have realised that by now, especially after last seasons debacle.

At least this season theyre being two bob and not pretending otherwise.

penners28 6:48 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
thats him johnson. spoke sense.

in this inflated market i reckon 20m for ake is about right. 30m for pickford is wedge, but again you'd be looking 20m minimum.

IF i was us i'd be going LARGE on glyfi

13 Brentford Rd 6:45 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
They spent fuck all on the stadium too whilst Spurs are spending 500m plus.
Fucking jokers!

Gavros 6:44 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Stab the fuckers with your scissors Brenty!

13 Brentford Rd 6:39 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
They are worth it in a seller's market.

Why are we the only club in the Prem with no money?
We are 15th richest club on the planet with a huge fan base, mega TV deal and big Prem prize money.
Load of bollocks, they are just treading water for 4 more years until they sell for a huge profit and need to be hounded out as they are damaging the club right now!

Lee Trundle 6:30 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
penners28 6:22 Mon Jul 10

I like those players. Just not sure they're worth a combined £100m+.

Johnson 6:29 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
The yokel fella, penners?

We don't have the ££ is the critical point, the move only makes up £12m more, so it was NEVER going to bump us up the spending ladder in real terms.

In fact, we may have gone backwards compared to our peers.

DJH 6:27 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!
Alex V 5:08 Mon Jul 10
Re: I'm starting to panic chaps!

I am sorry Alex I think you are stuck in the past because unless the selling club is desperate to off load a player quickly or you are the only interested party in town clubs are quite prepared in the current climate to sit and wait for their valuation to be met so there is little point other than wasting everyone's time in continually under bidding for a player you believe would play a fundamental role in your squad.

As I said there are situations where haggling is totally warranted and justified but you accept that you run the risk of losing out on a player with that approach, my argument is that if we have identified a player and don't want to miss out on then accept you might as well pay whatever it takes to get him sooner rather than later, if that means paying an amount that is not affordable then why waste time going for that player in the first place?

The money involved football today means £20m is probably what you would be paying for a modern day Michael Hughes so it really the is kind of money we should be expect to pay for any Premier League quality player.

The most logical thing for our owners to have done was to invest heavily in the Development and Youth set up to bring players through the ranks but for whatever reasons they took a different path so we have little alternative other than to buy in the players we need and in a sellers market in means paying over the odds I am afraid.

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