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Queens Fish Bar 9:14 Wed Jul 26
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Premier League wins anti-piracy court order

There are some clever people on WHO - how do we get round this block (without paying)?


The Premier League has been awarded a High Court order for the forthcoming 2017-18 season, which will help it combat the illegal streaming of games.
The blocking order will require UK Internet Service Providers (ISPs) to prevent people from illegally accessing streams of its matches.
It will allow the league to combat the illicit sale and use of devices such as pre-loaded IPTV and Kodi boxes.
A similar order was obtained for the final two months of the 2016-17 season.
That saw more then 5,000 server IP addresses blocked that had previously been streaming Premier League content.
Sky and BT Sport hold the live rights for Premier League football. The two firms paid a record £5.136bn for rights to show live matches for three seasons.
What are Kodi boxes?
Kodi is free software, built by volunteers, that is designed to bring videos, music, games and photographs together in one easy-to-use application.
Some shops sell set-top boxes and TV sticks known as Kodi boxes, preloaded with the software.
The developers behind Kodi say their software does not contain any content of its own and is designed to play legally owned media or content "freely available" on the internet.
However, the software can be modified with third-party add-ons that provide access to pirated copies of films and TV series, or provide free access to subscription television channels and programmes, including sports events.
The English top flight League is currently undertaking its biggest ever copyright protection programme.
Its anti-piracy efforts have also contributed to a range of prominent apps and add-ons being closed down as the law catches up with them.
"This blocking order is a game-changer in our efforts to tackle the supply and use of illicit streams of our content," said Premier League Director of Legal Services, Kevin Plumb.
"It will allow us to quickly and effectively block and disrupt the illegal broadcast of Premier League football via any means, including so called 'pre-loaded Kodi boxes'.
"The protection of our copyright, and the investment made by our broadcast partners, is hugely important to the Premier League and the future health of English football."
A recent poll of 1,000 people for BBC 5 live Daily found:
Nearly half of fans say they have streamed a match online through an unofficial provider - just over a third do so at least once a month and about one in five at least once a week
The main reasons include a friend/family member doing it and they just watch; the quality of the stream; and because sports TV packages are considered not good value for money
Just under a third of fans do not know whether it is illegal to stream live Premier League matches online from unofficial providers, but another third believe it is always illegal.

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medwayhammer1 9:04 Thu Jul 27
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As already mentioned, the streams in the last couple of months last season seemed better if anything, after they brought in the court order and that was just on the bog standard free streams....which was strange. Mania have already said there wont be problem next season, so hopefully there wont be!

Sits back and watches perfect HD stream of Dinamo v Athletic.

Westham67 8:04 Thu Jul 27
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Alan 12:23 Thu Jul 27

The package I am getting is called Top Sports 14 channels

C+P from Bein

Select Top Sports Package and unlock the world of local, regional and global sports. With Top Sports package you can watch all the international and regional leagues like La Liga, EPL, Bundusliga, Liga 1, Champions League as well as regional premier tournaments like CAF.

In addition get access to other premium global sports like Tennis, Rugby, F1, Golf and athletics. If you are a sports fan then this is the best package for you.

Mr Anon 7:48 Thu Jul 27
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Mr Wendel 2:51 Thu Jul 27
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Mr Anon 4:36 Thu Jul 27

"You are so wrong.

In 5-10 years people will remember this time as the 'good ol days' when we used to be able to get films, music and football for free. "

5-10 years?? I'll take that bet- They're no closer to it than 15 years ago when LimeWire was on the scene. Whatever DRM method they will think of will be cracked by someone smarter the next week.

Far Cough 7:40 Thu Jul 27
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My IPTV provider says, this won't affect his setup, so I imagine SportsMania is in a similar situation, my guess is they are going after those web streams?...

at least for now

gph 5:47 Thu Jul 27
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Won't advertisers be pissed off if suddenly a chunk of their audience disappears?

Mr Wendel 2:51 Thu Jul 27
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Mr Anon 4:36 Thu Jul 27

You are so wrong.

In 5-10 years people will remember this time as the 'good ol days' when we used to be able to get films, music and football for free.

Dan M 2:50 Thu Jul 27
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I shall remain optimistic then. Most of the time I end up watching away games on my Mac rather than the telly so I can just use a Chrome VPN plug-in if things get squeezed. But the TV has a first gen Firestick which doesn't seem to be VPN-compatible.

Mart O 2:24 Thu Jul 27
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Dan M 2:02 Thu Jul 27

None whatsoever. If anything, quite by chance stream quality seemed better than it had been earlier in the season.

Northern Sold 2:16 Thu Jul 27
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What away games like you do ED??? Oh… I forgot…. you don't do any....

Eerie Descent 2:14 Thu Jul 27
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If the VPN packs up, you can always get yourself over to a few games, son?

Northern Sold 2:06 Thu Jul 27
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Dan M 2:02 Thu Jul 27
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Did anyone see a difference in stream availability in the last two months of the season though?

Nope… and that was without a VPN… got a VPN this year so hopefully no probs

Dan M 2:02 Thu Jul 27
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Did anyone see a difference in stream availability in the last two months of the season though? I've got a Mania account and didn't have a problem. In fact there seemed to be no discernable difference from the previous months of the season.

WorldCupWilly 12:34 Thu Jul 27
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This is just an extension of the blocking order that they had for 2 months at the end of last season - and the main thing that it affected was some of the Kodi streams and the occasional web stream.

This is a good explanation of what they are trying to do:

With so many different broadcasters showing the 3:00pm matches live, it very difficult for them to block so many sources that capture the broadcasts.

Alan 12:23 Thu Jul 27
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I got a Bein subscription just using a proxy, which was fine as they showed all PL matches. Then the PL complained about the amount of piracy, and Bein then just started showing one Saturday afternoon match (don't know if that's still the case).
I didn't renew and went for Sports Mania, which I'm hoping can stick it out. If not I might take another look at Bein.

Westham67 11:59 Thu Jul 27
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hammer205 8:16 Thu Jul 27

I don't need one I live in Doha, I've hear other mention VPN to get around it

kirok1 11:34 Thu Jul 27
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Sky Sports are so obsessed with the Champions League clubs they don't show much of the rest. Checking the balance of matches proves this.
When I was a subscriber to Sports I was also a season ticket holder. In all that time there were very few WHUFC games which weren't home games that I was already attending.
The only way, save going to away games, (which became more and more difficult due to Sky moving them to Monday nights on the few occasions they picked us) to catch the matches is to stream.
If they gave a WHUFC channel, with full coverage, I'd happily consider it. But I don't fucking want to watch a Super Sunday without the team I support. Other teams hold no interest for members whatsoever.

Pee Wee 9:12 Thu Jul 27
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Question from a technophobe

Does this news mean from new season I won't be able to watch prem on Sports mania? Or is this some future thing that will happen?

What do I need to do to be able to get around that. My Kodi is downloaded direct to my Sony TV if that makes any difference?

hammer205 8:16 Thu Jul 27
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67 did you get round the v p n
How did you do that please

Nutsin 8:06 Thu Jul 27
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Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!!!

I live in the Good old USA, I get to watch every game live on my muthafucking TV...... Bwaaaaaahaaaaaaa ha ha ha!

Mike Oxsaw 6:20 Thu Jul 27
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Off the top of my head I can roll out at least a half-a-dozen solutions to this using existing technology/systems/platforms - as has been mentioned the PL (Sky) have a 19th century business model for the 21st century market place.

Not the consumer's problems they lag behind demand - survival of the fittest is not the same as survival of the biggest.

As an aside, this is just another example of the government chipping away at the freedom of (information) access the internet offers the people, which, by it's very nature, destroys the privileges of a select few built up over centuries of secrecy and mutual back-scratching.

Westham67 5:09 Thu Jul 27
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Bein it up with a VPN for 18usd a month

All games live


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