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Q: 2017/18 Carabao Cup Spurs (a)
a. It's Wembley we have a decent record on the hallowed turf a& all we need is another Maiga, win
16%
  
b. There's no draws in this comp so what chance do we have, lose
26%
  
c. Forget the game, we'll always be a laughing stock while those idiots in the Boardroom still own the Club, SELL SELL SELL
47%
  
d. How great is this another game live on the box, so it's back down the Pub full kit on and roaring the boys onto another win, cut me and I bleed claret & blue
11%
  



hammer205 3:32 Wed Aug 23
Rooney Retires from England
Didn't quite meet expectations but a goal scorer nonetheless

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Sniper 4:23 Thu Aug 24
Re: Rooney Retires from England
An absolute world beater at 17

Coached out of him by 21

God knows what Man U did to him, but he never became the player he should have been. Still quality though

Although what was it, 7 tournament goals in 3 world cups and 3 euros? And 4 of those at his first tournament?

cup of tea 3:20 Thu Aug 24
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Good player
NEVER was world class
A good player will always score againstthelikes of Malta, Andorra, Faroe Islands etc

Don't understand the wankfest over his international 'career'

Sven Roeder 8:57 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
He is a very good player shown by his 200 Premier league goals but at international tournaments he hasn't delivered since he was so impressive in 2004.
Think he has done the right thing by Everton by avoiding the tedium of World Cup qualifiers and friendlies and of course at the end of the season he could always make himself available at the pleading of his adoring public.

ted fenton 8:34 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
From a football point of view a great player just got loads of bad press.

Lily Hammer 8:21 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
He looked really impressive to me for Everton v Man City, playing back a bit as a kind of no 10. He was linking things up well from what I saw, and of course grabbing a goal in the bargain. If he stays fit for the season doing that job for Everton, he'd be one of the best we have for Russia, doing the same job.

See how he does and what he does domestically; there may well be good call for a u turn.

alfie romeo 7:16 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
I can see him making himself available again before the world cup if he has a good season back at Everton and we qualify.

Sir Alf 7:06 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Thought he retired before the 2006 World Cup a I never noticed him play in any major tournaments. :-)

In all fairness to him, he has been a first class Premiership player and is / was a very good footballer. Not a great but a very good player.

He suffered from starting so young and bursting on the scene and raising expectations. The press and media calling great all the time and not mentioning his anonymous performances when it mattered at national level. The media and press constantly bigging him up was enough to put most people off him. Like I say, very good but never great.

Private Dancer 6:59 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Bit of a pity imo as I would have liked to see him at the world cup.

threesixty 6:47 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
fairplay to him. leaves on his own terms. Southgate asked him to play so it's Rooney's decision.

To be fair, if he's banging them for everton he would have escaped all the shitty qualifiers and england will be begging for him to come out of retirement for the finals.

win, win really.

kylay 5:55 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Takashi Miike 5:40 Wed Aug 23

agree with all of that, but I think the team will be better off without him. I don't fault him for it, but he wasn't they type of player who brought a team together around him, and England were not able to build a team around him. I truly believe that if England were to pick a team based on the collective strength of a starting XI and not based on which club they play for, they could compete tomorrow with anyone on their day.

Takashi Miike 5:40 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
what I'll admire about the Granny Shagger is he was always avalaible for England , never made out he was injured and always seemed to give 100% even when his ability was diminishing but his outburst at the world cup will always make him a cunt in my book, not that he'd give the slightest shit what I think

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 5:40 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
I just texted Southgate to tell him I've retired from England, too.

Grumpster 5:26 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Been generally surrounded by a load of gash during his England career over the last 10 with the odd exception, so fair play on him scoring so many goals.

And a bit silly saying it's against shit, as every player through the ages has played against shit while wearing the England shirt.

I mean when Lineker was playing, even the likes of Turkey were fucking atrocious.

brick_lane_batty_boy 5:23 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Fades into Calvert-Lewins shadow by November.

ray winstone 5:13 Wed Aug 23
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goose 4:35 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
retired after the Euros in Portugal didnt he?

WHUDeano 4:27 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Good news for Everton, but can easily see him performing a U-turn come the end of the season if he's had a half decent campaign.

While not at Kane's level, he's still above the likes of Sturridge and Wellbeck, so could walk into a striker spot

El Scorchio 4:23 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Bet he's been told he's no longer in the plans and given the opportunity to go on his own terms. I don't believe he's the sort who would retire unless he knew there was no chance.

Decision probably made purely on the club shirt he now wears, even if he ends up having his best season in half a decade this season.

Lily Hammer 4:14 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
...though saying that, it wouldn't hugely surprise me if he were to do a U-turn and join in again come the tournament, certainly if we need him due to injuries or loss of form of other candidates.

Lily Hammer 4:13 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
Jaan,

that's kind of what I meant, his legacy as record scorer, and all the goals count, firendlies and easy qualifiers included. Getting the record and bowing out is the wisest choice.

Jaan Kenbrovin 4:10 Wed Aug 23
Re: Rooney Retires from England
"No need to ruin his legacy by doing the one tournament too far."

He only ever did well in one tournament and that was his first. His legacy is scoring goals in friendlies and qualifiers against largely poor opposition.

Never was a world class player for me, but his records will still be hard to beat.

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