WHO Poll
Q: 2017/18 Brighton (h)
a. If e can stop being the masters of our own downfall we should take 3 points, win
74%
  
b. We seem too flaky at the moment and don't expect an easy game, draw
9%
  
c. We can't put teams away and have a soft underbelly, lose
10%
  
d. Did you know that Eurovision 1974 was held in Brighton and launched ABBA onto the world stage with Waterloo
5%
  
e. I love Friday Night Football, it gives me the chance to show everyone down the local just how big a West Ham nut I am, hat, scarf, shirt, you name it I'll be wearing it
3%
  



claret on my shirt 7:59 Fri Aug 25
We've spent about £10m net
Plus we had money left over from last year, is it good enough? I like our signings but Hart is a loan, Zabaleta old. If Sakho and Carrol break down again and we all know Carrol certainly will then it's Hernandez every game and that's a big ask of him.

Your thoughts?

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13 Brentford Rd 3:55 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
I've already re posted unedited, still on this page I think and you reckoned I edited it.
What's the point.

13 Brentford Rd 3:52 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Lots of words saying nothing, and it's me obfuscating, good one.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:50 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
13 Brentford Rd 3:44 Sat Aug 26

'You however have. You clearly said that unless Barca and Everton spend all their cash and more from sales it shows that they are ambitious.'

Where? Post it up unedited

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:48 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
13 Brentford Rd 3:41 Sat Aug 26

Er, no.

What you needed to post was. 'Yes, you are right, what I meant was...'

But you didn't do that and sought to obfuscate and change the subject.

You have posted what you did over and over again on this board and its been pointed out to you a hundred times that you are talking rubbish. You made a false statement and then clarified it with a rambling explanation that confuses competence with ambition.

I'm forced to conclude you're an idiot.

13 Brentford Rd 3:44 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
I have not edited anything at all.
You however have. You clearly said that unless Barca and Everton spend all their cash and more from sales it shows that they are ambitious.

Now you are lying and backtracking.
It's all there only a page back for anyone to see.
Nothing more to say on this as you are now arguing black is white then white is black, tedious and childish!

Jaan Kenbrovin 3:44 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Southampton are lauded as a club model we should aspire to, whilst our owners are said to be snidey shysters that have no clue, yet we have finished 1 point behind them the last two seasons.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:43 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
This is especially funny in the case of Everton, who have a net spend of about 45m quid so far.

13 Brentford Rd 3:41 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
....and in my next post......


Reply 13 Brentford Rd 11:31 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Nope, you are not getting my point and your example shows that net spend means little unless you take into account all the other factors and are well run. I said you need to be well run and spend money when necessary.
If you are right then why are Spurs the lowest net spenders but have still spent more than most?"

Lying am I?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:40 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Incidentally, you also seem unclear about the distinction between, 'not ambitious' and 'unambitious'.

Obviously you continue to lie that I said Everton and Barcelona were unambitious.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:37 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
13BR

I see you carefully edited that to remove the paragraph spacing between your stand alone statement and a load of unrelated garbage below it.

More dishonesty.

13 Brentford Rd 3:35 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Ha ha what a twat......baaaahhhh I won't talk to you anymore if I can't win the argument, more likely. Care to respond or just argue to deflect from having to defend your posts?
I have not edited or twisted any of your posts, they are there in black and white. You however have left out a huge chunk of my first post.

13 Brentford Rd 10:27 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
I have said all along that a measure of a club's ambition is not NET spend, it's TOTAL spend.
Our total spend is only around 40m though which is low for a club our size with our apparent ambitions.
Spurs have a zero net spend last 5 or so years but have spent much more than us and have a much better team. You need to spend big money sometimes but be well run at the same time. We do neither.
Naturally I got dogs abuse from the usual know it all site twats for this insight"

13 Brentford Rd 3:29 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
You said that unless Everton and Barca have a positive net spend by replacing Lakaku and Neymar that means they are unambitious.
I wish we were as unambitious as Southampton.

I have repeatedly said that a club needs to be well run too and not just spend money, so not sure what your point is there either.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:27 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
13 Brentford Rd 1:24 Sat Aug 26
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'As I said it originally, it depends on circumstances and being well run.'

No, you didn't, you said:


13 Brentford Rd 10:27 Sat Aug 26

'I have said all along that a measure of a club's ambition is not NET spend, it's TOTAL spend.'

And THAT is all I have ever engaged with you on.

It's bollocks, as I have shown, and any amount of lying about what you or I posted will not change that since it's all there in black and white.

I'm done with you now except to say that if you post up any more of my posts that you have edited or in some way twisted to change the meaning I will point that out.

Vexed 3:23 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Surface accuses someone of being deliberately obtuse.

IRONY OVERLOAD

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:22 Sat Aug 26
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Alex G 2:20 Sat Aug 26

Er.. no. Where did I ever suggest that I would be?

Are you another one who doesn't know the difference between ambitious and competent (or excellent, even)?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 3:20 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
13 Brentford Rd 1:28 Sat Aug 26

Are youi fucking mental or are you being deliberately obtuse?

I specifically didn't deny that I said Southampton were unambitious and specifically did deny that I said Everton and Barcelona were.

If you are you just going to lie then there is no point debating with you because you are dishonest as well as completely thick.

Jaan Kenbrovin 2:50 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premier-league-last-five-seasons/transfer-league-tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

Alex G 2:20 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Would you be happier if we'd bought exactly the same players but spent more money signing them? It's one easy way to increase our net spend.

13 Brentford Rd 1:37 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
Barca, Spurs and Everton will probably end the window with a low net spend but a high Total spend, does this make them unambitious?
The point is as I said originally it depends on the circumstances and how well run you are as it is not possible to replace those type of players. How would Everton attract a better player than Lakaku? Fact is even if they wanted to spend more than 75m to replace him, how would they attract that type of player?

Takashi Miike 1:33 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
us v our competitors spending since 2009/10...................

2009/10 : WH £19.5m, SOU £2.5m, EVE £21m, LEI £1.8m, STK £26m
2010/11 : WH £14.2m, SOU £2.5m, EVE £1.5m, LEI £5m, STK £21m
2011/12 : WH £11.1m, SOU £5m, EVE £6.5m, LEI £16.2m, STK £24.8m
2012/13 : WH £21.5m, SOU £37.3m, EVE £19.5m, LEI £5.3m, STK £23.7m
2013/14 : WH £21.6m, SOU £35.6m, EVE £28.6m, LEI £450k, STK £7m
2014/15 : WH £31.6m, SOU £86.4m, EVE £36.1m LEI £20.6m, STK £1.8m
2015/16 : WH £47.4m, SOU £53.6m, EVE £44.3m, LEI £45m, STK £53.6m
2016/17 : WH £75.2m, SOU £62m, EVE £77.3m, LEI £82m, STK £38.6m
2017/18 : WH £40.8m, SOU £35.5m EVE £132.6m, LEI £53m, STK £7.7m

13 Brentford Rd 1:28 Sat Aug 26
Re: We've spent about £10m net
"Southampton, a club who is the very epitome of zero ambition but great competence, do this every year"

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