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Billy Go Wings 3:38 Thu Sep 14
Billy Batts has gone and got his shoe shine box
RIP Frank Vincent, who played Billy Batts in Goodfellas, Phil Leotardo in Sopranos and was Scorsese's go to guy when a film needed a Mafia character has died.

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Jim79 1:31 Thu Sep 14
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*patting them on the head

Jim79 1:30 Thu Sep 14
Re: Billy Batts has gone and got his shoe shine box
Agreed Soldo, when the Krays met contacts from the Mob over here in London you could almost imagine them patting them ironically.

Billy Go Wings 1:28 Thu Sep 14
Re: Billy Batts has gone and got his shoe shine box
Here's some of his credits:
Goodfellas
Casino
Raging Bull
The Sopranos
This thing of ours
Chicago Overcoat
The Death Collector
Gotti
Copland
Gun Shy
Smoking Stogies
Night falls on Manhattan
Witness to the Mob
Made Men

Northern Sold 1:15 Thu Sep 14
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Does make me laugh when you read and hear about the crime families in NY, Boston, Chicago, Vegas, LA etc and the amount of people they have slotted over tehyears .... and teh best we ever had in England... the Krays... who killed 2... didn't Whitey Bulger (Boston) have 19 murders against him... different league the yanks

Trevor B 12:59 Thu Sep 14
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Interesting little biography about the real Billy Batts:

William 'Billy Batts' Devino (January 19, 1921 June 11, 1970) William Paul DeVino was a made member of the Gambino Family and a longtime friend of boss John Gotti in the 1960s. After spending six years in prison, Devino was murdered by Tommy DeSimone, with the help of Jimmy Burke and Henry Hill after the fact.

Born in Brooklyn, little is known about Devino's early life. In 1959, he became an associate of the Gambino crime family and was made in 1961. Devino met Jimmy Burke in 1962 and was on friendly terms with him. He also knew Tommy DeSimone and Henry Hill from when they were children. Devino was a protegee street soldier for Carmine Fatico and later Gotti, during the early days when Gotti was a habitué of the Bergin Hunt and Fish Club in Ozone Park, Queens. In 1964, Devino went to Bridgeport, Connecticut to complete a drug deal for Joseph "Joe The Crow" DelVecchio and Oreste "Ernie Boy" Abbamonte. Upon his arrival, Devino was arrested by undercover police for possession and exchange of narcotics. He was later convicted and sentenced to 6 years in the Federal Correctional Institution in Danbury, Connecticut.

On June 9, 1970, Devino was released from prison. Two days later, while celebrating his release at a bar called The Suite in Jamaica, Queens, Devino ran into Tommy DeSimone. Devino had not seen DeSimone since he was in his early teens. Devino remarked that DeSimone used to shine shoes. DeSimone took this remark as an insult, but held his anger in check.

The common belief, perpetuated by the movie Goodfellas, is that Devino was murdered for insulting DeSimone at the Suite. However, the real reason for the Devino murder was that Burke had taken over Devino's loanshark business while Devino was in prison. According to Hill, Devino had been 'squawking' to Joe Gallo, about getting his enterprises back from Burke. Not wanting to give the business back to Devino, Burke decided to kill him instead. Hill also said that Devino was insulting DeSimone because he wanted to impress some mob associates from another crime family who were in the bar. Devino was too drunk to be able to fend off anybody on the night he was killed.

After setting off to dispose of Devino, the trio had a minor collision with a van on the Van Wyck Expressway in Queens. Soon after, the sound of thudding in the trunk made them realize that Devino was still alive. They then stopped at DeSimone's mother's house to collect a knife, some lime, and a shovel. She made them drink coffee, chat and have some breakfast while the critically wounded Devino was still in the trunk. Upon arriving at an isolated piece of land in Connecticut owned by Ralph Atlas, a friend of Burke's, the trio opened the trunk of the car, killed Devino, and buried him under a dog kennel. In The Real GoodFella, Hill said that they "didn't actually shoot him, they just stabbed him, thirty or forty fucking times, fucking horrible." However, in Wiseguy, Hill does not mention a knife. In the movie Goodfellas, Devino is shot and stabbed.

Six months after Devino's burial, Atlas mentioned to Burke that he was going to develop the property where Devino was buried. Burke ordered Hill and Tommy to dig up Devino's half-decomposed corpse and dispose of it. Hill has told various versions of the night Devino was killed, including burials in Pennsylvania, Upstate New York, and Connecticut. In Wiseguy, Hill said the body was crushed in a mechanical compactor at a New Jersey junkyard.

It is believed that Tommy DeSimone was murdered on January 14, 1979, partly as revenge for his part in the Devino murder - Devino was a made man, and therefore "untouchable." without family permission. It is unknown if this was the sole reason. John Gotti may have wanted revenge for the killing of Ronald Jerothe, because had the Gambinos known the full story of Devino killing with Burke and Hill as participants, the two would surely have been killed as well.

In the book Gangsters and GoodFellas, written by Hill, it states that Devino's birth name was William Paul DeVino. However, FBI Agent Edward McDonald informed an aide to Hill that Devino's name was really Billy Batts and nothing else.

Devino is portrayed by Frank Vincent in the film Goodfellas.

Top Iron 12:55 Thu Sep 14
Re: Billy Batts has gone and got his shoe shine box
Are they going to bury him in the boot of a Chevy?

Jim79 12:52 Thu Sep 14
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Phil Leotardo's death scene in Sopranos was fantastic. The unmanned car slowly running over his skull after being shot is both funny and horrific.

Northern Sold 12:40 Thu Sep 14
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found Godfather series to be more serious, gloomy and one dimensional.







Fuck me Road I thought that would be right up your street you crazy shampoo hair washin' muvverfucka...

Eddie B 12:34 Thu Sep 14
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Wuv u, NS xx

13 Brentford Rd 12:33 Thu Sep 14
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Best of the genre is Goodfellas by some distance for me. Has it all, comedy, violence and gore and is brilliantly directed and acted.
Found Godfather series to be more serious, gloomy and one dimensional.

Trevor B 12:33 Thu Sep 14
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Bit odd that you quoted someone completely different then put RIP at the end. Still, that's you Brenty.

Far Cough 12:32 Thu Sep 14
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it's shine box not shoeshine box

13 Brentford Rd 12:29 Thu Sep 14
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It is my favourite quote from Goodfellas, B.

"Now go home and get your shoeshine box"

Northern Sold 12:27 Thu Sep 14
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099685/ 8.7/10

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071562/?ref_=nv_sr_2 9.0/10

Go fuck yerself Shitcunt Eddie...

Northern Sold 12:26 Thu Sep 14
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Not in my eyes Shitcunt Eddie... so go fuck yourself... and when you are finished serve me up some meatballs... just like Mama used to make em..

Eddie B 11:52 Thu Sep 14
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Goodfellas is better than GF2.

Northern Sold 11:45 Thu Sep 14
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Loved Goodfella's but Godfather 2 is perfection for me... big fan of Millers Crossing and Road to Perdition.... which has one of the best ever lines ever in any film....

Paul Newman (John Rooney) : `There are only murderers in this room! Michael! Open your eyes! This is the life we chose, the life we lead. And there is only one guarantee: none of us will see heaven`.

Trevor B 11:32 Thu Sep 14
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Why are you quoting Joe Pesci and Mrs Scorcese, you absolute berk Brenty?

13 Brentford Rd 11:29 Thu Sep 14
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"when you gonna stop running around and get yourself a nice girl like your friend Henry?"

"I get myself a nice girl every night, then in the morning I come home to you Mama"


RIP

Eddie B 11:14 Thu Sep 14
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SO typecast, but I'm sure he didn't give a fuck.

goose 10:54 Thu Sep 14
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Goodfellas, Raging Bull, Casino, the Sopranos.......... quite the CV.

RIP.

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