WHO Poll
Q: 2017/18 The RealWestHamFans March on March 10th
a. I'll be there, it's time for action now enough is enough
52%
  
b. Not for me, I'll see you all at the Stadium
14%
  
c. A bit difficult for me as I'll be on my stream with a cup of rosie
25%
  
d. What march
8%
  



CaptainBlueAndClaret 11:53 Sat Oct 21
Someone save our Football Club.
Someone save our Football Club
An emergency worldwide broadcast by Hammer and Talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTMq562jAQs

I C&P a comment made by Johnson 2:58 Sat Oct 21;

“…the heart fell out of the Club, the manager and the players the minute we left (Boleyn Ground, Upton Park).

That final season was so strong and emotionally charged, it was almost the crashing end of a euphoric drug fuelled orgy.

We whacked as much of the stuff up our hooter as we could and it for a change rewarded us that season. Suddenly our dealer had gone and the new shit ain’t as good.

I reiterate, football is not about 11 highly paid robots on the pitch.

It’s about a Club mentality, it’s about the same old faces, it’s about the hundreds of local or otherwise (regardless of ethnicity) members of support and catering staff who made it tick, it’s about taking your feedback at source positive or negative, it’s about them being on top of you (less so lately but despite our internal negative view enough players from oppo have said now they don’t miss it must you divs realise) it’s about the community, it’s about pride.

We don’t have any of that anymore. That affects the team, absolute fact.

West Ham ain’t been that good in my 30 years of supporting them with nigh on 20 home and away. Did I ever doubt the club during that time? Rarely as we had a common cause.

The move to the OS has ripped that apart.

Do not forget the hundreds of stewards, security guards, receptionists, hotel staff, grounds men who were probably all West Ham fans before they joined and if not were after a few years.

Fucking loads of them made redundant, which was the board goal all along.

This is worst ever situation our Club has ever been in.

No heart, no passion, no history, no pride, no loyalty, no soul.

Berks Inc (THE THREE PLANKS, Gold, Sullivan & the Duchess of Knightsbridge) and their supporters did this to us.”

Replies - Newest Posts First (Show In Chronological Order)

CaptainBlueAndClaret 1:05 Tue Feb 20
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From HAMMERSCHAT;

Re: Real West Ham Fans : Official Thread (video page 23)
PostM

Post bt ToneLoc Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:25 pm

Newmarket wrote:
ToneLoc wrote:Neither Sullivan nor Gold showed up for the meeting tonight with RWHUFAG, they sent Brady.
I think it's safe to say that any chance of them acquiescing the group admins a little before the march has gone.

I take it the RFAG representatives walked out Tone ?

Not sure Tim

Micky Morgan
Admin

As you can see we march … very disrespectful today from the two men who run our club … sending a woman to do their dirty work .. fucking gutless … polish ya boots .., March 10th

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8047&start=300#p141687


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 10:48 Mon Feb 19
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
FROM the article;

Gold’s persistent antagonistic tweeting is baffling and unhelpful

whufc
@claretatheart
ive got to be honest i would much rather stay at upton park than the olympic stadium #touristsandshitatmosphere @davidgold

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
“@claretatheart: ive got to be honest i would much rather stay at upton park than the olympic.

There's nothing stoping you doing that. dg
12:27 AM - Nov 3, 2014

https://bracethehammer.sbnation.com/2018/2/18/17024794/golds-persistent-antagonistic-tweeting-is-baffling-and-unhelpful


West Ham fans are 'voting with their feet'...

Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by Johnzo on Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:28 pm
STH for best part of 20 odd years and enough is enough for me. Old man wanted to pack it in last year and I convinced him to give it one more year. No changes have been made, the whole experience is depressing, I find myself constantly looking at the scoreboard hoping it be HT/FT, and that is whether winning, drawing or losing. Never been about the result for me, been about the atmosphere, having a day out, beer with mates/old man. Unfortunately taking out the match day atmosphere has completely destroyed the experience for me.

I categorically will not be renewing this season. Have discussed with the old man and agree the money would be better spent doing a few European away days, whether folloiwng England or experiencing some famous rivalries, Lazio v Roma etc. Very excited by the prospect and so long as we're in that stadium under the crippling GSB regime I won't be in any way persuaded to getting a ST. Will try and go to aways where I can, and will always support the team, but just can't stomach the Stratford experience anymore. Fair play to those that can, just not for me.

Bring on 10th March, let's make our voices heard against GSB, drastic drastic change is needed. Whether it can be achieved is one thing, but I am certain the real West Ham support won't put up for this for much longer without a fight. The march is only the start

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20#p5163999


Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by Ladzini on Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:36 pm
I bought a season ticket next to my dads as soon as I finished Uni and was back in essex/london so managed to see the last season at The Boleyn, and then the last two. Hated Stratford, but thought I'd give last season to see if it grew on me; old man didn't feel the same way and called it a day last year.

I massively regret renewing this year and cannot stomach giving them any more money in the face of blatant disrespect and lies. I will not be renewing for 18/19. I'm up to 11 pp so can make do with aways from September onwards.

Unfortunately I think many of us non-renewing just means we will get more tourists and cheap seats being filled.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20#p5163945


Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by White Goodman on Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:22 pm
I've never set foot in the bowl and never will.

They haven't had a penny out of me through Sky (cancelled sports package), merchandise or anything else. Although do occasionally watch round my old man's if I'm around.

The only way they'll understand.

Looking at those pics of the Boleyn the other day is absolutely heartbreaking and these ***** don't give a ****. When I look back at how long I had my ST before we moved and how big a part of my life it was, it is pretty hard to take.

Hope something nasty happens to them, I really do

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=20#p5163994


Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by Hammerite on Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:26 pm
I renewed against my better judgement as a result of my emotional attachment to the club.

I've missed more games in the last two season that the last 20 combined. I will not be renewing next year unless the axis of evil are gone,

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=40#p5164172


Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by wildkard on Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:48 pm
ST holder for... Jesus.... I don't actually know, ****ing years. I know my son has had one since he was five, so just coming up to six years for him. I won't be renewing either ticket. Too many week day games that clash with work this season, so I'd imagine the same for next season. I probably would be able to overlook that if it wasn't for all the other ****. My dad and brother also not renewing. I'm not boycotting, I've just had enough. I'm drained, finished, done. And FFS it's only football. It shouldn't make me feel like this constantly.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60#p5164300


Re: Season ticket boycott 18/19
by The Sherriff on Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:57 pm
Moved my ST’s last season from East Stand to TBL, been once at home this season and that was enough.

I make no bones about it, the only reason I’ll renew is to do the aways, Pure and simple. If I never set foot inside that stadium again it wouldn’t bother me nor would I feel as if I’m missing out. I still get my fix every other week in proper grounds. I have an internet subscription which allows me to watch all the games so at least I get to see the home ones.

Next season there will be fewer renewals though I’m sure it will mitigated by countless freebies dished out.

Hats off to all those planning not to renew – make no mistake it will have an effect, maybe not financially as PL gate receipts are a drop in the ocean against turnover. The increasing patches of white seats will have an impact though, underpinning the feeling of discontent against the regime.

Modern football is rubbish, I love the game but despise everything it stands for these days. There’s not much good about the sport sadly. Full of greed, cheats, despicable characters, parasites, hypocrites and leaches. The stadium stinks of it,

I also believe West Ham is terminally ill, appreciate there is no going back to the Boleyn but with the current configuration being totally unsuitable for football, we’re only heading in one direction.

If another 5k don’t renew, that means we have lost 10k in 2 seasons. What worries me is the calibre of fan, many would have been long-term ST’s and not those who wanted one in the new ground with the lure of next level riches. Once we lose those who were attendees at the old girl, their like is difficult to replace.

Very sad state of affairs, even if this was happening at Millwall, Spurs or Chelsea I would be condemning it. A real choker …. More reason to march, as one on the 10th.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170908&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=80#p5174100


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 12:52 Mon Feb 19
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
The Debate #2 | Why Are West Ham Fans Protesting? | Real West Ham Fans March
Hammers Chat Forum Channel
Published on Feb 15, 2018

In this series we tackle one subject and on this episode we look at the upcoming protest march.

The board, Upton Park, transfers and promises made are all discussed as well as an insight from WHUISA member John.

oursmalldeaths (You Tube)
It seems to me that most West Ham fans' biggest gripe is losing Upton Park....the spiritual home, the culture, community etc...So where were the protests and marches back then to save all of that, along with Upton Park? Not a peep.. It will never be the same and you all rolled over and let the board lure you into believing that West Ham would compete with the top 6. Even if you were, look at all you've lost. You cannot put a price on what West Ham once stood for and represented. Gone forever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SifO99aMb5s


Real West Ham Fans Action Group - Why I will be marching
Flump9TV
Published on Feb 15, 2018

The March is taking place on 10th March and here is why I will be marching.

Kemi Coker (You Tube)
i totally agree with u this board appears to be asset stripping spending bare minimum to strengthen the squad they have told so much lies its hard to keep up with which lie is the worst lie and to see what they r doing to our club is heart breaking keep up the good work flump 9

Lewis Dowsett (You Tube)
I will be there to... They are lies but... I didn't want to leave in the 1st place.. I don't know what you think but maybe our own greed is the death of the club. All the people who believed them never protested once about leaving our beloved upton park. I hate what west ham have become and wish we could turn back time but we cant so next best step is to get rid of the fuckers who took it all away in the 1st place. I have to take my son when he grows up to that fishbowl and not the great atmosphere of the boleyn and surrounding area and its heartbreaking. Sorry to go on Good video coyi 🛠

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbm-tMWnFjU


Our collective message to The Board - Flump9TV
Published on Feb 11, 2018

A message to The Board Members of West Ham United - from the fans

Si Beex (You Tube)
Excellent stuff Katie⚒

Sean James (You Tube)
Great Video

Joshua Ryan Schroer (You Tube)
Well done

schizzobass (You Tube)
Some heartfelt pleas from some passionate fans. While it may not on it's own change the boards opinion they cannot claim ignorance of the depth of feeling of a sizeable proportion of the fanbase. Very telling that even now, (but who knows for how much longer), they refuse to realistically engage with their detractors.

Jesse Romero (You Tube)
very well said, and great vid!

Ian Gravett (You Tube)
Thank you for putting me in

RICHARD IVORY (You Tube)
they wont sell up what assets do we have none they sold them all to line their own pockets and still lining them with the loan back to the club charging interest greedy horrible people coyi

Mark Weir (You Tube)
Brilliant video can't wait till the 10th march

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_URAKVjpMc


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 10:27 Sun Feb 18
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Gold’s persistent antagonistic tweeting is baffling and unhelpful

West Ham co-owner once again shows he does not have the knack for proper Twitter use

By Jonathan Lines Feb 18, 2018, 8:00am EST

Even when we don’t have a fixture it seems to be a tough ask for West Ham to stay out of trouble. This week David Gold has been spending his evenings on Twitter and, bafflingly, kicked the hornets nest of disgruntlement of fans towards the board.

It comes after an official statement on Thursday that the board is ready to “begin constructive dialogue” with supporter groups preparing a protest march against Gold, David Sullivan and Karren Brady, citing perceived lies and inaction from the current leadership. Hopefully the owners are finally ready to engage, listen and learn.

I know I shouldn’t be getting riled about a few tweets, but Gold is the co-owner and co-chairman of the football club I support. If he’s using it at all, he should be using it to engage with the fans on a serious and meaningful level, acknowledging the positive but also listening to and dealing with the negative. But all Gold seems interested in, as this Thursday was just another reminder of, is spam-retweeting praise and regurgitating stock counter-arguments about debt reduction and season ticket waiting lists to any fan who raises a genuine concern. It is not helpful.

Gold’s tweets, as they have done on numerous occasions in the past, show a spectacular and perplexing misunderstanding of the way fans feel about a number of issues at the club, centring around Sullivan’s maniacally disorganised transfer policy, supporter disenfranchisement and, above all, the stadium. Any mention of the move he move to the Olympic Stadium stirs up a wave of ill-feeling, and turn even the most sedate of characters into Howard Beale in Network in an instant. It is surely a no-go area for a board wanting to stay on its supporters’ good side. Why is he still stoking the fire when the board is apparently aware of the level of unrest? Worse still, for someone who always boasts about how connected he is with the club, why does Gold not get it?

But here we are, with Mr. Gold retweeting practically every board-friendly reply (some seem genuine, others sycophantic and attention-seeking in the extreme). It’s as though Gold genuinely believes some Twitter replies validate the decisions the board has taken over the last decade and last couple of years specifically.

“It’s not the board’s fault the fans aren’t getting behind it”, read one of Gold’s retweets. “More accessible than Wembley, Emirates, White Hart Lane, Stamford Bridge...” said another. His timeline is a sheer propaganda machine.

Then there were the ones that Gold tweeted himself. “The manager has the final say on player recruitment”, read one – the archetypal West Ham copy-paste job every time our appalling transfer policy is questioned. Not our fault, nothing to see here.

Then in response to one fan complaining that the majority didn’t want the move, the response was delivered from page one of the Gold, Sullivan and Brady stadium party-line manual. Yep, the waiting list:

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
Mr West Ham you don’t KNOW that the majority of West Ham fans didn’t want to leave Upton Park you are guessing. However we do have 50,000 loyal season ticket holders and circa 50,000 fans on the waiting list. FACT. dg https://twitter.com/mrwestham64/status/964193074405625856 …
6:52 PM - Feb 15, 2018

These are the most irritating of all the board’s arguments. And unfortunately Gold reverts to the same slimy, evasive politician’s answers time and time again. Brady is the same. There’s no attempt at all to listen and engage, rather just deliver his own stock counter-argument. Why do we rarely seem to land our primary transfer targets? 50,000 on the waiting list. Why didn’t the board capitalise on the success of 2015/16 and improve the squad that summer? Waiting list. Why do we have the 13th highest wage bill in Europe and nowhere near the squad to match? 50,000 – remember?

Here, we have fans with genuine concerns, genuine grievances and questions and we’re met with Tony Blair and David Cameron at Prime Minister’s Questions. No attempts to listen, no attempts to engage with the real issue. Just “it was better than the last government” and “we’re making the tough decisions to do what we think is right”. We are completely shut out. The waiting list reference almost even reads as a veiled “if you don’t like it, someone else will take your spot” counter, which is both imprudent in its arrogance and no way to treat a supporter.

This is why it would probably be wise for Gold to get off Twitter. As co-chairman, he should be using it to learn, to listen to fans and to try and make the club better, to attempt to explain and justify the actions they take. But when fans attempt to scrutinise the board’s record – why a team with our resources seems incapable of competing above a relegation battle; why we enter every transfer window with no purpose or plan; why our academy fails to produce; why many of the stadium promises haven’t been delivered – Gold is incapable of producing meaningful dialogue. If he’s just going to wind up fans with ill-judged, propaganda, he’s better off deleting his account.

Here’s a big issue though. Absurdly, Gold’s naive antagonism is actually just about the most useful club discourse we get. This is because disenfranchised fans have no other way of engaging with their club or holding it to account. Admittedly this is an issue for top-tier English football in general, rather than just us. And it would still sit better with me supporting a team owned by Gold and Sullivan than a sheikh from an Emirate using ownership of my club as nothing more than a public vehicle to legitimise their investment in terrorism and their regime’s awful record on human rights. But that’s another story.

This shouldn’t be the case, especially when Gold even goes as far as (surely inadvertently) offending large groups with some of his activity. “The only thing wrong with this is you clowns who work in McDonald’s and think you know better”, read another of Gold’s retweets. Is he agreeing with the writer’s opinion here? Is that what Gold thinks of fans who don’t agree with him?

As an aside, contempt for ordinary supporters is not something new to the current board. Fans are regularly patronised, which is even more laughable when you consider it’s the board who spend most of the time appearing as though they haven’t a clue what they’re doing. There was the BBC interview in 2016 shortly before our first game in the Olympic stadium. Lady Brady was asked by Trevor Sinclair about the importance of retaining the working class identity of West Ham into the new ground and replied “this stadium offers us a different kind of future”.

All this being said, I do feel a bit sorry for Gold on Twitter, primarily because he’s the only one of the three chairs available to even attempt to defend their actions. Sullivan, perhaps wisely, is not on Twitter (although that would probably be a lot of fun for the neutral) and Brady uses it mostly for self-publicity, though she is better at answering questions when she does tweet about football. The two kids at least have learned their lessons – Dave Jnr. seems to have disabled his account, while Jack, wisely, saves most of his activity for the women’s team in his ‘new role’. It doesn’t exactly forgive their prior misuses though, and we shouldn’t forget the way they routinely slagged off Allardyce and Nolan. But it is a lesson to Mr. Gold that it is probably wise to shut up for a bit unless you have something meaningful to say.

Let’s hope the board are genuinely ready to listen and learn. Anyway, it would be a shame to see Gold go. He can be a comedy genius. Gold may not have found the right way of discussing club matters with the fans, but when he stays away from West Ham he is still well-worth a follow, not least for his daylight savings rants. I’ll leave you with some of my favourite Gold tweets:

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
The First World War ended in 1918. dg
11:14 AM - Oct 29, 2016

ANTHONY HUFTON
@AnthonyHufton
West Ham United - helping to raise money for various charities through @DadsOnThePitch & @BoleynUnitedFC
ANTHONY HUFTON @AnthonyHufton
@DavidGoldWHU do you like johnny cash?

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
“@AnthonyHufton: @DavidGoldWHU do you like johnny cash?”

He's dead. dg
1:38 PM - Jun 9, 2013

whufc
@claretatheart
ive got to be honest i would much rather stay at upton park than the olympic stadium #touristsandshitatmosphere @davidgold

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
“@claretatheart: ive got to be honest i would much rather stay at upton park than the olympic.

There's nothing stoping you doing that. dg
12:27 AM - Nov 3, 2014

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
“@StuAus:
DG, my goldfish just died, can I have a RT lol”

NO. you cant have a RT for such a ridiculous reason PS are you sure it's dead DG
9:46 PM - Feb 22, 2012

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
I'm old enough to remember O J Simpson "getting away with murder" dg
1:08 PM - Sep 11, 2014

David GoldVerified account
@davidgold
David Gold Chairman of West Ham United FC, Ann Summers and Knickerbox
Rob the prices don't go up because is a big local derby game against Arsenal. The prices go down when it's not. dg https://twitter.com/_jaybrown_/status/794450483226300417 …
9:27 AM - Nov 4, 2016

https://bracethehammer.sbnation.com/2018/2/18/17024794/golds-persistent-antagonistic-tweeting-is-baffling-and-unhelpful


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 6:35 Sat Feb 17
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From KUMB;

Graeme Howlett
@kumbdotcom

This is how the Olympic/London Stadium was sold to West Ham United supporters. It's one of the fundamental reasons many gave approval to the move.

So why are our fans still sitting on temporary scaffolding, some 18 months later? @LondonStadium @sebcoe @MayorofLondon @WestHamUtd

https://twitter.com/kumbdotcom/status/964634365107015680


Graeme Howlett
@kumbdotcom

Top: the deal West Ham Utd fans signed up for - a stadium overflowing with claret and blue. A new home.

Bottom: the deal West Ham fans got - a generic, all-weather (as long as it's not cold, wet or windy), unfit-for-purpose bowl. @LondonStadium @sebcoe @MayorofLondon @WestHamUtd

https://twitter.com/kumbdotcom/status/964644191371481088


Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions
by Johnny Byrne's Boots on Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:13 pm

I may have imagined it, but I'm pretty sure I read on here that someone who either got the figures from a document or may have used Google Maps overlays said the nearest seat to the pitch (or centre spot) in the upper tier at the OS is further away than the furthest seat (West Upper top corner) at the old ground.

Is this true or am I hallucinating?

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164789&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=9040


Re: Olympic Stadium Discussion and Questions
by bengeo on Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:30 pm

You're not hallucinating. The Boleyn ground would fit inside the upper tier. But if you lined up the pitches, then the back row of the Boleyn West Stand would be in line with somewhere on the OS West Upper, but with many more rows behind it.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136471641@N04/38495937820/

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=164789&start=9080


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 11:46 Sat Feb 17
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
David Gold embroiled in new Twitter row
Posted by Sean Whetstone on February 16, 2018 in News, Whispers

A West Ham fan who recently watched the documentary film Iron Men messaged Hammers Chairman David Gold on Twitter to say: “Watching this now just makes me even more angry, you told a dream to convince us that it was the right move because you knew that otherwise, people would have been more passionate to stop the move, I never wanted the move and I know the majority didn’t, reply please!”

Gold took the bait and replied “Mr West Ham you don’t KNOW that the majority of West Ham fans didn’t want to leave Upton Park you are guessing. However, we do have 50,000 loyal season ticket holders and circa 50,000 fans on the waiting list. FACT. dg”

“I personally hated the thought of moving, but I embraced it, because I believed it was the right thing to do in the long-term best interest of the club. dg”

Supporter Martin Pedrick later joined the social media conversation saying: “The key in all of this debate is are we making progress & for me the answer is no. We still have too many issues with the ground. From our lofty position of finishing 7th, we are going backwards, partly due to the manager at the time but also the board with poor signings”
Gold replied: “The manager has the final say on player recruitment. dg”

http://www.claretandhugh.info/david-gold-embroiled-in-new-twitter-row/


Hammerkip February 16, 2018 at 8:01 pm

You would think an 80 year old man had a bit more common sense.. Got no sympathy for him or Sullivan its all there own doing…I liked them and was on board with what they said but like so many others I’ve had enough of there ineptitude to run a football club .. I think with the deal they got with the stadium has made them greedy in a way and that’s why the club has suffered.. They like west ham but they like money more ..


neilalex February 16, 2018 at 9:33 pm

What, so lying about retractable seating doesn’t matter because it wouldn’t make any difference anyway? What a heap of ****. Gold is on video lying about the fact that we wouldn’t move unless the seats were as close as UP. He’s either as thick as **** or lying.

Sullivan lying about being a fan when he actually isn’t; go to 4,58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSCA9dG_Q4Y

Maybe that doesn’t matter either? Jesus, wake up


JMan43 February 16, 2018 at 10:39 pm

I am amazed at those defending Gold and Sullivan. Yes this is a long term project but there is not one thing I can see that is currently aligned to achieving that long term vision we were sold and that is even before we get in to the player investment side of things where we’ve have been incredibly poor on the whole, and that can be laid very much at Sullivan’s door.


danbee February 16, 2018 at 11:31 pm

If the manager has the final say on all transfers then the most important job you have to do is appoint a world class manager who can take us to the next level. From Birmingham to West Ham all your managers have been awful, no exceptions, if your not going to sell up at least appoint a managing director that can run our club and appoint the right manager for West Ham!

http://www.claretandhugh.info/david-gold-embroiled-in-new-twitter-row/


From HAMMERSCHAT;

Re: Real West Ham Fans : Official Thread (video page 23)
Post by palerider Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:30 pm

'The board have done more damage to the East End than Hitler.'

I'd laugh at that comment if it wasn't so true.

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8047&start=240


Re: Real West Ham Fans : Official Thread (video page 23)
Post by bovington Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:51 pm

In light of this invitation, the first question to ask before agreeing to it should be why they didn’t want to meet earlier and what has changed their minds for them to want to meet now (for the sake of the club & unity blah, blah.. will not suffice)? I think we all know the answer, but it would be interesting to hear what BS they would spout as the reason behind it

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8047&start=230


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

peachy75 9:26 Sat Feb 17
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Cant see what everyones problem is.
Personally i think the club is run excellent and they saved our bacon.
Anyone going on that march needs to get a life.
Getting rid of our chairman would be stupid.
There is an old saying that fits the bill perfectly here.
Be careful what you wish for!

CaptainBlueAndClaret 10:05 Fri Feb 16
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by RM9 on Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:00 pm

There's a big chance they've hired in a union busting strategist. It's a common tactic to call a rush meeting, take it or leave it style approach.

If I was on the RWHFAG committee, I'd break down our grievances in to different topics.

Stadium - Stewarding. - bring the match day security back to the club including the safety officer
Access - disabled, security searches
Decoration - go back to QEOP and demand the surrounding areas are made to feel more like
home with provision of the old Green Street vendors to be invited over.

Board - Brady - removed from post due to compete migration failure and their 10 point plan.
Sullivan/Gold -
To cut interest on any loans to BofE base rate.
To step down completely from all duties from the sports side of the business, employ a
director of football or chief exec that has total control of all player scouting, transfer
negotiation and contract renewals.
Remove all senior board members (and their sons) from social media and club matters.
Actively stop all leaks from deep inside the dressing room/board room to social media.

Playing staff - Either offer Moyes a contract, with a decent transfer kitty for summer 18 or start the
recruitment process now.

Finally, put the club up for sale and **** off But we still march and will continue to protest until we see fit.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1480


Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Phil S on Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:07 pm

I just posted this on RWHFAG Facebook page (awaiting approval)

Just my thoughts (and I do think if we said no to the meeting it would play in to their hands.

a respectful message to those that attend the meeting.
Gold, Sullivan and Brady should all attend. A prerequisite should be at least 2 of them must be there.
No NDA's

They will no doubt ask what we want. I know we gave them 5 requirements before and we need to be hard with them please.

For me and not in any order...
1/ The stadium is not fit for football, what will they do to change it (significantly) Saying they can't do anything because we don't own the stadium is not an acceptable answer.

2/ A commitment to remove the London from the badge...we're United not London.

3/ Brady to stop her Sun column asap - This cost us a player in the recently closed window. (see point 7)

4/ To stop embarrassing the club by publicly slating players, I.E. Snodgrass and Fonte.

5/ To stop trying to show us fans in a bad light I.E. Sullivan, Wigan, car park and Jim White as a mouthpiece.

6/ I think we all know there is no cash at the club and this is why we can only get loans or players on installments. Where has the money gone? Stop taking interest any more on the loans, you have made enough money from your businesses and West Ham. Put money in. If you can't then sell up.

7/ You have made West Ham a laughing stock in the football world...apologies are required and bridges need rebuilding.

8/ To ensure the elderly and disabled are looked after with respect of getting to and from the stadium.

9/ Assist our fans in particular those traveling to away games to be able to get home from night games where the trains have stopped running before the game ends.

10/ Freeze season ticket prices and lower the ridiculous match day prices...you promised affordable football.

11/ Away fans in colours are frequently see in home stands..this HAS to stop.

12/ Stewarding, searching etc. Still unacceptable despite it being one of the early days major issues.

13/ We don't trust you...you have lied. Tell the truth or leave.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1500


Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Red Kens Slave on Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:17 pm

There is a big dose of deja vu here from when WHUISA was set up.

Frankly, if it has taken the threat of thousands of marchers to get them to do something as simple as be honest then it only serves to highlight the points against them to begin with.

They should be told, in no uncertain terms and to their face, that there will be no rest until they're gone. That should be the only purpose of the meeting.

Talk of badge changes and various other stuff, some of which is not even under their control (stadium staffing), only serves to give them wriggle room.

The past is done, the future is the focus and that future has to be minus the three at the top. Talks can't be considered "constructive" until such a time as that is first and last on the agenda.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1540


Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by woodford on Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:28 am

Meeting is the right thing to do.

From the boards point of view, they may think they're sharp operators and that they can derail this momentum by calling this meeting and making promises they've no intention of keeping. That would be a mistake.

Their problem now, is that their character and competence has been called into question ( and with good reason ). Lie again, deceive again, bull**** again and it'll be called out. And their difficult situation will turn even more toxic than it is now.

Take away the emotion of it being West ham, and thinking from a business point of view..............No one would agree to meet people who are openly hostile to their business goals unless they thought they could get something out of it. So you're left with some variations.

1. They think they can patronise and bull**** and it'll all be ok
2. They are seriously rattled by this.
3. They really have tried their best and need to explain where its gone wrong ( yeah i know )

I personally think its 2. What needs looking at is WHY. they ordinarily wouldnt give a toss lets be honest, yet now they do. Maybe those accounts will yield more horror, maybe there is an interested party in regards to buying them out, whatever it is it marks a change in direction and focus. Suddenly fans are important to "brand West ham"

There is only 1 out of GSB that could actually just go, and thats the employee who worries about her "business woman of the year" brand. Her brand is getting tarnished big time, she's been mentioned as a reason another club wouldn't do business with us. She is their weakest link and her credibility is right down there with Sullivans kids

Unlike faceless Arabs/Amercians/Russians Mr Sullivan is local, his life is here, a hostile fan base with long memories really wont be a good thing for him. He and his family lapped it up 2 years back, but the champagne is about to sour. It really isn't in his interests for this to get any more hostile between him and a fan base who aren't known to forgive and forget. Think back to Alan Sugar at Spurs , i remember the protests outside his house, he got out soon after.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1580


Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by delbert on Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:26 pm

As for the meeting? RWHFAG will go in there owning the moral high ground, it would be unbelievable for them to leave without it.

1. If the board insist on NDA's or no recording, they can walk out.
2. If the board don't bother to show, they can walk out.
3. If the board are obviously not taking them seriously, they can walk out.
4. If the board are obviously talking bollox, they can walk out.

Any of the above and our lot walk away with the moral high ground intact, the ball is firmly in the boards court.

RWHFAG have made the correct demands and pushed them exactly the right amount IMO......

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&start=1660


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,715 from 1597 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 7:44 Fri Feb 16
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
West Ham fans angry about how their club is run challenge David Gold to speak at protest march

Supporters annoyed over issues including a disappointing January window and last year's stadium move plan March 10 demo
BY ADRIAN KAJUMBAFOOTBALL REPORTER
• 22:30, 15 FEB 2018

West Ham co-chairman David Gold has been urged to face fuming fans at a pre-game protest march next month.

Unhappy Hammers supporters have arranged a rally in Stratford, near the London Stadium, prior to the March 10 visit of Burnley.

They are upset with the way the club has been run — with a disappointing January transfer window intensified the anger — and are now demanding answers.

A spokesman for the Real West Ham Fans’ Action Group said: “Ten years ago, we owned our own stadium and everyone loved it.

Ten years on, our home has been knocked down and we play in an athletics stadium that a lot of fans hate.

“Progress at its finest.

“The fans want truthful, honest answers. This is our open invite for you to come and speak to the fans — come and be a speaker at our march and tell the fans the truth.

“It might surprise some people, but we actually just want what the board have promised us — a successful football club.

“For us as West Ham supporters, it is about playing good football, feeling comfortable where we are and enjoying ourselves in a family atmosphere.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/west-ham-fans-angry-how-12034356


West Ham board to meet with action group
Posted by Sean Whetstone on February 16, 2018 in News, Whispers

West Ham have released an official statement to confirm they plan to meet with the action group on Monday.

The club published a statement on WHUFC.com to say “West Ham United can today confirm the Club has reached out to the supporter groups represented within the West Ham Groups United to meet to begin constructive dialogue with the Club.

Vice Chairman Karren Brady has today written to the West Ham Groups United confirming: “My Chairmen David Sullivan and David Gold have always been clear that, as a Board, we are only the Custodians of the Club on behalf of our supporters. We fully understand that our supporters are the lifeblood of the Club.

“We believe the groups that have come together have nothing but the best interests of the Club and its long-term future in mind. We understand they are seeking only constructive dialogue with the Club to engender unity. Their intention is only to bring positive suggestions to us as a Board that will help over time to improve the Club and the supporters’ matchday experience. David Sullivan, David Gold and I want to work with the supporters to make West Ham United one of the most successful clubs in the country and we know and understand that this only happens with collaboration and listening to our supporters.

“To this end, I can confirm we have requested a meeting to take place with representatives of the groups at the earliest opportunity.We hope that this will demonstrate how serious we are about listening and answering their issues. Uniting the Club is our primary focus as a Board.

“I hope the meeting will help us to more fully understand the agenda that we all need to work to together and that following the meeting we can aim for ongoing constructive dialogue to deliver a better experience for our supporters.”

The Real West Ham Fans Action Group posted their own statement on Twitter saying:

“We have received this from the club this afternoon asking for a meeting next week. We will attend the meeting as we feel it is our responsibility to get into dialogue with the club we will attend with other groups as part of the West Ham Groups United. Far as we’re concerned we’re Marching on March 10th, but we feel it’s important to meet the Board as at some point we need to sit around the table. This is a strange one, if we don’t meet people will say we are destructive to our team. If we meet some will say we have sold out. Let’s put it straight we’ve chosen to meet the club listen to them and hopefully get them to understand why we are Marching. The meet is on Monday, time to be confirmed we will update you and we will let you know what was said at the meeting. thanks for your support.”

http://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham-board-to-meet-with-action-group/


hammermail February 16, 2018 at 10:13 am
Doesn’t Brady understand she’s part of the problem? I wonder how seriously she’ll take it if asked to resign? Yep thought not.

paulcolborne February 16, 2018 at 10:45 am
The club has asked to meet because they realise the scale of this march and how it will embarrass them. Also if they make promises and the march is cancelled the organisers of the march will struggle to gain these numbers again.-Hundreds have booked rail and air tickets from all over the UK and all over the world and made the neccessary arrangements to attend. The club have caused this situation by refusing to listen to the supporters.I think the fans groups have to meet the club but when doing so point out that the march will be going ahead. If the club comes up with positive actions then any further marches and actions will be suspended.

From KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by the pink palermo on Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:40 am

It's clear there is no trust between the so called Board and the supporters.

There is more than ample evidence that they have made serious error after serious error, shown scant regard for the views of supporters and done what they believed to be right .

Comically - at least if it wasn't so serious - almost everything they believe to be right is at odds with supporters views .

The badge, the media activities, the attempt at not honouring the 20% discount, the relocation under clearly false assumptions , a dodgy survey, a dreadful deal being struck with the LLDC and LS185, the almost complete loss of any control of the "matchday experience" .

Asking our supporters to pay nigh on £7 for a hot dog on a stall outside the ground , I mean, seriously , have they any idea at all about our supporters and where most are from ?

We're not Arsenal, and however much BKB wishes we were, we're not .

However, having done that dreadful deal, having broken the bond of trust we need to ask what they , as owners, are bringing to the party to move the club forward .

Seriously , what are they bringing to the party ?

More loans ? A self funding business model in which they intend to reap the reward of a huge capital gain when they sell but leave behind a club with insufficient capital in it to fund a competitive position ?

The club is in need of hundreds of millions of pounds of investment and quite simply these owners, even if they have it, won't spend it .

There really isn't any point to them hanging around, they can bring nothing to us , do nothing for us .

Their entire business plan hinges on finding a greater fool to give them hundreds of millions for their shares , meaning that whoever buys the club will have less to spend on players and club infrastructure.

These owners do not and never have had the best interests of WHU at heart , they need to be run out of town.

Why will David Sullivan not invest any of his money in a club he claimed he turned down a £650m bid for ?

Why will he not invest in the club, rather than make money off the back of it ?

We as supporters invest all we have in the club, emotional capital as well as , in many cases, every spare nicker we have on tickets and all the tat they flog .

We put the money in, the Directors take the money out.

Time for change. Board out.

http://kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1600


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,705 from 1596 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

goose 6:19 Thu Feb 15
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
they are getting more and more nervous.

mallard 6:15 Thu Feb 15
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From O.S.


West Ham United can today confirm the Club has reached out to the supporter groups represented within the West Ham Groups United to meet to begin constructive dialogue with the Club. 

Vice Chairman Karren Brady has today written to the West Ham Groups United confirming:

"My Chairmen David Sullivan and David Gold have always been clear that, as a Board, we are only the Custodians of the Club on behalf of our supporters.

"We fully understand that our supporters are the lifeblood of the Club.

"We believe the groups that have come together have nothing but the best interests of the Club and its long-term future in mind. We understand they are seeking only constructive dialogue with the Club to engender unity. Their intention is only to bring positive suggestions to us as a Board that will help over time to improve the Club and the supporters’ matchday experience.

"David Sullivan, David Gold and I want to work with the supporters to make West Ham United one of the most successful clubs in the country and we know and understand that this only happens with collaboration and listening to our supporters.

"To this end, I can confirm we have requested a meeting to take place with representatives of the groups at the earliest opportunity.

"We hope that this will demonstrate how serious we are about listening and answering their issues. Uniting the Club is our primary focus as a Board. 

"I hope the meeting will help us to more fully understand the agenda that we all need to work to together and that following the meeting we can aim for ongoing constructive dialogue to deliver a better experience for our supporters."

Spokesman Danny Swallow from West Ham Groups United said: “The supporters of the march have been concerned that the Board were not prepared to listen to the fans’ point of view. By agreeing to meet us those fears have rescinded. We are looking forward to open and constructive talks to the benefit of all West Ham United supporters.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 4:10 Thu Feb 15
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From HAMMERSCHAT;

Re: Real West Ham Fans : Official Thread (video page 23)
PostTue Feb 13, 2018 11:54 pm

People like Brady and the twins have no " real friends ". They have never been a part of a community. Instead of being part of a crowd they watched afar looking " down " on the crowd as rabble! Their long term aim was to drown out the hardcore fans and replace them with cooperate , visiting fans! They wanted to strip west ham of its heritage and identity and convert it into a global merry go round with passing trade so they could sell up one day and walk away from a club that has been stripped of everything but its soul. But now the soul has awaken and turned on them and will let everyone know just what lieing scum bags they are and back them into a corner. Walk away or do whats right!!

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8047&start=220


Re: Real West Ham Fans : Official Thread
PostTue Feb 13, 2018 1:23 pm

Why did it take pressure from fan groups for them to realise that taking 7% interest on an £80m debt that wasn't actually being serviced is an outright fucking piss take? Love the club? Fans? Do me a fucking favour.

Why do they persist in lying about the world class stadium and facilities? Who in the name of fuck do they think is believing them?

Why do they never mention their very own promises in their numerous interviews or tweets? Apparently, we should be attempting to challenge for the CL places by now. The fact is to compete at the top table, you need to spend. One look at the league table in comparison to spend table shows you that they're not far off each other and never are. In terms of wages, last season we were 8th, in terms of transfer spend we were 11th: So, as of now, we 're about where we should be, which, of course, they know.

Those stats are overall spend by the way, if we talked about net vs gross spend, it looks even worse for them.

I, and many like me, backed the move, because we believed the bollocks coming out of Dildo towers. We believed that to move onto that fabled "next level" we needed to move to a better, more modern stadium. I'm afraid had I known then what I know now, I'd have fought that move with every fibre of my being.

Being mediocre is fine, we always have been as long as I've been going. Mid-table with the odd big result and odd cup run is absolutely fine.....but NOT at the expense of Upton fucking Park. If we were going to stay shit, I'd rather be shit at Upton Park than be shit at the London Stadium.

This is all compounded by taking a glance at the building site that used to be the Boleyn. We were told we couldn't get planning permission for the Chicken Run, we were told that we couldn't go any higher. One look at the blocks of flats now going up in place of that stand just confirms what Tone said above: They're lying shyster cunts who cannot be trusted.

I've never been on a protest march in my life, never really been too bothered, or I wasn't around to join.....I'll be joining this one as I and all my friends and family feel the same: We have had enough.

This has inadvertently turned into a bit of an essay, which I didn't mean it to. I could keep going, as it is I've only scratched the surface.

World class team in a world class stadium, saying it makes me want to puke.

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8047&start=200


Re: Liar ... bigger liar... and monster liar Sullivan
PostThu Feb 08, 2018 3:29 pm

There were two moments during their 8 odd years where the current owners had the very real opportunity to back up their words.

Firstly, appointing a manager to replace Allardyce. Now we all saw the names mentioned. An innovator in Bielsa, solid, and high end in Mancini, and a man with a track record of winning trophies with an unfashionable team, Emery. Exciting times, eh?

Well, they decided to go with the relatively untested and inexpensive Bilic. Not ambitious by any stretch, but hardly the final nail in the coffin either.

No that nail came off the back of the final season at the Boleyn. Now here was the chance to push on. We had an inspired, creative player pulling the strings, and pretty solid back-up all over the pitch. All we needed, all we really wanted, was a top striker, and maybe a couple of other quality additions to push on again. Much was promised. A marquee signing. Lacazette, Batshuayi, Bacca, and a host of other names were mentioned. The rumours were even more ambitious -- £50m+ for Madrid's James.

All this and we ended up with a dozen non entities, and a loan striker who was on a contract designed for failure.

And that was it. Two moments where talk of ambition could have been made real.
The lies and duplicity have not ceased since.
Remember how moving to the OS would give us the revenue to compete with the top club's?
Now look at Sullivan insisting that revenue is 'only' a few extra million.
Lack of ambition is nothing to us, but the lying, the lying is where we should all draw a line.

http://hammerschat.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8093&start=10


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,685 from 1595 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 1:08 Wed Feb 14
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Adrianisournumber1 on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:07 am

“Mega Ron wrote:No I don't know the deal which is why i asked.

Do you know the deal?”

Is this you by any chance not trolling just as soon as I saw the tweets I thought it might be you

https://twitter.com/therealwestham1/sta ... 9990524928

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by woodford on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:11 am

wow what prick set that up, for what purpose?

Another reason that i hate that idiots find a voice.

Credit to him though, he did all that with one hand tucked in his underpants

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Row X on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:17 am

If I were to guess, I'd say somebody paid by the dildo brothers to kick up a stick

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by woodford on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:24 am

yeah theres not much doubt about that:

1. The snidey way of "holding people to account about money" ...............oh the ******* irony

2. The mention of the national newspaper, why might they be interested

3. The false sense of gravitas by issuing a deadline

4. The attempt to high jack the name ( reeks of dildo )

5. The attempt to form a group of real fans that they would conbtrol

6. The odour of a cretinous midget

on the plus side, this is absolute nailed on desperation

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Mega Ron on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:29 am
Adrianisournumber1 wrote:
Is this you by any chance not trolling just as soon as I saw the tweets I thought it might be you

https://twitter.com/therealwestham1/sta ... 9990524928" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

**** off you twat.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1340


Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group
@TheRealWestHam1

1. Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group 114h14 hours ago
Let's start a Real West Ham fans group not this fake egotistic group who insist on causing divide amongst fans

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 14h14 hours ago
Lets grow naturally none of this handing out leaflets rubbish, no bullying no abuse.

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 13h13 hours ago
Hi this is a new account set up to hold @realwesthamfans to account and ensure transparency.
1) Can you advise on your tax liabilities year to date
2) Receipts on your current spend
3) Minutes from your meetings
Please advise many thanks

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 13h13 hours ago
This is a new account set up to hold realwesthamfans to account and ensure transparency. Join the Real revolution please Big Dave

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 12h12 hours ago
We have it on good authority that realwesthamfans action group are paying social media accounts £500 to join forces, from the crowd funding money. Can you confirm @HammersTalk @GreenStHammers @ @WestHam_fl @WestHamSocial

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 12h12 hours ago
Please reply via press release statement by close of play Wednesday 14th otherwise shall be going to a very interested editor of a main stream newspaper 're your 25k+ donation and lack of governance around spending. Main headline wheres the money gone.

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 3h3 hours ago
Let's make this clear we are marching to line my pockets and raise my profile see you on 10th March my gullible friends

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏ @TheRealWestHam1 1h1 hour ago
They stole our potatoes bring back @1971westham lies lies lies

Above C&P from;

Real Real West Ham Fans Action Group‏
https://twitter.com/TheRealWestHam1

Final thoughts posted on KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by sanchoz on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:38 am

The company has just been set up so we’ve not received a penny yet as it takes 10 days

We’ve spent £700 on flyers posters waiting to be paid

If you apply in writing to the group we will provide you with the minutes.

https://twitter.com/realwesthamfans/sta ... 3376472066

The troll has already been answered professionally by RWHFAG

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by woodford on Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:39 am

“taffhammer wrote:
Would they really sink that low ?”


Would they really be above that?

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1340


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,625 from 1591 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 11:14 Wed Feb 14
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Part of David Sullivan's 2013 Christmas message to West Ham supporters;

“More importantly the Olympic Stadium will attract better players. If we are perceived as a big Club, with a great Stadium, erm, in the heart of London, erm, a lot of foreign players, who might not have come to us, wouldn’t be thinking of coming to us, will be attracted to come to West Ham. So we are very confident that when we get the Stadium, that we will have a better team than we have now."

‘Perceived as a big Club’ under David Sullivan, while the reality is different;

“It’s for the titles” – Player says he was paid well by West Ham, but left for glory elsewhere
By Nihat Emre Kocaaslan -
13th February 2018

Galatasaray attacker Sofiane Feghouli has spoken to Football Agence France about his time in England with West Ham United, and what he wants to achieve in Turkey.

The Algerian international joined Galatasaray from the Hammers last summer in a reported €5.5m deal, after spending just one season with West Ham.

Now settled under new boss Fatih Terim, the Algerian has become a key player at the Turkish club, alongside former Swansea striker Bafetimbi Gomis, and Feghouli was asked why he chose to head to Turkey: “First of all it’s not about money. I have already been making good money in England. They have been paying me well, but once I realised I needed to compete for the titles, I just decided it’s time to leave. So it’s not about money, it’s for the titles.”

Feghouli also said he was not happy at West Ham under Slaven Bilic, and said: “At West Ham, I realised I wasn’t happy for a while. I needed to find a project like Valencia to compete with the trophies, and I think I found it.”

http://sportwitness.co.uk/attacker-says-wasnt-happy-west-ham-didnt-leave-money-titles/


Part of David Sullivan's 10th February 2018 statement to West Ham supporters;

“Myself and David Gold we watch every game home and away, for no other reason than we love the club. We care, we are fans. I was at the Fulham cup final, Preston cup final, Arsenal cup final, David Gold was born opposite the ground.”

Extract taken from;

David Sullivan full interview transcript
Posted by Sean Whetstone on February 11, 2018 in News, Whispers

http://www.claretandhugh.info/david-sullivan-full-interview-transcript/

David Sullivan ‘perception process’ at work again, while the reality is different;

neilalex February 11, 2018 at 11:50 am [Commenting on the David Sullivan full interview transcript article]

“God almighty, this lifelong fan thing again.

Go to 4.58 onwards on this interview with him while he was at Birmingham. When asked about whether he’d buy another club he goes on to explain that Cardiff is his home town and where his roots are, but he may buy a ‘London’ club because it’s less travelling. Not the slightest mention of West Ham. I don’t think he realises that it’s bull**** like this that puts people’s backs up.Or maybe he just thinks everyone is stupid enough to believe what he says as long as he repeats it enough times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSCA9dG_Q4Y

Extract from GQ magazine, provides another ‘reality check’;

“Sullivan, a Welshman who supported Newport County as a boy, had been seeking a club and decided that Birmingham was ripe. Many thought it was just the latest joke. They would be called Bummingham Titty; the programme would have to go on the top shelf of paper shops; the Sport would carry fanciful stories like "Football Found at St Andrews”.”

Karren Brady: ‘I am a person who makes things happen’

http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/the-apprentice-karren-brady-interview

Karren Brady’s Arsenal background, is also revealed in that above article;

“Brady did not pretend to know anything about running a football club. She went to Arsenal – the club she had supported from her father's executive box at Highbury, not missing a game for six years - and asked the managing director Ken Friar for ten minutes of his time. When Arsenal's vice-chairman David Dein - one of footballs new breed of aggressive marketeers - walked in, she closed the door behind both men and picked their brains for four hours. "They told me not to let my heart rule my head, never to get involved, and to put everything out to tender."


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,615 from 1590 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 12:38 Wed Feb 14
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Real West Ham Fans action group | Our Story | West Ham United
Real West Ham fans
Published on Feb 13, 2018

Real West Ham Fans Action Group ahead of their march on March 10th. Andy Swallow and Micky Morgan take a trip down memory lane to the Boleyn and visit businesses and West ham United fans affected by the move to the Olympic Stadium (soulless bowl).

A special mention also to Isla Caton a little girl who has been diagnosed with a rare child cancer called Neuroblastoma. Isla is in the hearts of all West Ham United fans who are raising money for her to get a special life saving treatment in America. Any donations would be most welcome https://goo.gl/bntGnD

Real West Ham Fan Action Group | West Ham Football Club | West Ham United Football Fans | Nathan's Pies and Eels | Victoria Tavern pub Plaistow

Martin Ford (You Tube)
This video that you boy's have put together is very heart warming and makes you feel quiet touched with emotion.. I've lived in Hampshire all my life but all my family were born and raised in the east end.. Hackney, plaistow, and Shoreditch.. Would travel up to upton park with my dad as a kid and the whole buzz of the day out with everything thrown in will stay with me forever.. Just like thousands of as that feel the same just want to have that similar feeling again, and i for one Don't have any good vibes coming from this new place, i have tried to give o.s the benefit of the doubt with 3 visit's to watch game's but it must change for me to get some sort of feeling for the place.. Lots need to improve....

Dougie Montana (You Tube)
Another kick in the bollox for the working class...football was the one thing we had left that brought us back to our roots.

uk whufc (You Tube)
Worst lie of all was "seats will be close to the pitch" Fix that and it won't look half as shit

strange exchange (You Tube)
Nice to see some old school west ham fighting for the truth..swallow .micky morgan..just need scully now ⚒

Jamie Norwood (You Tibe)
Great video. Really hard to see Upton Park like that. Can't bring myself to go back there now. Sold a bunch of lies. Board out

John Kiely (You Tube)
There should have been a riot when they tried moving us

Paul Grant (You Tube)
Destroyed a football club , next level liars ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1tox8EfyPY


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,615 from 1590 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 12:20 Wed Feb 14
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Revealed: The truth what was said in the Wigan car park
Posted by Sean Whetstone on February 13, 2018 in Videos, Whispers

Lots has been said and reported what happened in the Wigan carpark when the West Ham Chairmen spoke with fans after the FA Cup defeat. West Ham season ticket holder Baz Cox has now published a covert video which reveals some of the dialogue between West Ham fans and David Gold post-match. It also dispels the myth that Gold was jostled by supporters although it does indicate he faced a barrage of questions from upset fans.

Gold to fans: ‘Guys, guys listen, listen you must listen, I am disappointed as much as you’

Fan: ‘I don’t believe you!’

Gold: ‘Then you are mistaken, look why are we here? we are here supporting our team’

Fan: ‘I spoke to David Moyes outside the Britannia Stadium on Boxing day, he told me we need a defensive midfielder. Its the 27th of January’

Gold: ‘Where do you get one from? We want to bring in a central defender, everyone is working their socks off to bring it in’

Fan: ‘Do you know how much we paid to come here today? We didn’t have a shot at goal David.’

Gold: ‘I understand that I know we didn’t and I hate it as much as you do!’

Fan: ‘Why put on a defensive minded player when you got Mario ‘

Gold: ‘That’s not me, I up there in the stands feeling the same as you ‘

Fan: ‘Reece Oxford is leaving right? How the f*k does he get game time?”

Gold: ‘He’s the manager, we support the manager’

Fan: ‘You didn’t support Slaven Bilic’

Gold: ‘How can you say that! We brought in four players, which player would you have liked us not to have signed

Fan: ‘Sakho is our best striker’
Gold: ‘Sakho wants to go’

Fan: ‘Because you treat him like s**t’

Gold: ‘Guys, Guys, One at a time, one at a time, come on’

Fan: ‘You promised us next level, that is f****g pathetic’

Gold: ‘And we are trying to get to next level, the injuries are going wrong if we came here today with our full squad

http://www.claretandhugh.info/revealed-the-truth-what-was-said-in-the-wigan-car-park/


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,615 from 1590 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

Sir Alf 8:02 Tue Feb 13
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
The ideal scenario is the owners retreating and deciding to sell and an owner willing to pay what will likely be an unrealistic price. And before the govt tax penalty ? Highly unlikely.

So the next aim has to be to get them to change their behaviour which would start with them being honest even if that meant admitting they were not really going to spend much more than when we were at UP and that there is a cash flow issue due to some poor decisions / management. Again , highly unlikely as they are all so defensive and self righteous even at the best of times.

The march is good but just needs to be kept civil and not drift into a mob or credibility and the message will be lost. There are many who will be there waiting to vent anger and that is the danger. EVen though it is understandable it will be what the owners can use to undermine the whole thing. I can hear Sullivan now saying " we cannot listen to the rule of the mob". Hoping the messages / placards etc are reasonable and not bordering on the hysterical. Think we should all try to make the effort to attend.

CaptainBlueAndClaret 4:42 Tue Feb 13
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
Gold replies to the Real West Ham Fans
Posted by Sean Whetstone on February 13, 2018 in News, Whispers

David Gold has replied to the Real West Ham Fans Action Group on social media.

The Action groups official twitter followed by 6,800 people posted a message saying:

’10 years ago we owned our own stadium and everyone loved it… 10 years on our home has been knocked down and we now play in an athletic stadium what a lot of fans hate… progress at its finest’

Gold reading the message online decided to defend himself and replied with:

‘Ten years ago the stadium was (for all intents and purposes) owned by the banks and just before we arrived the banks were demanding the club sell Parker, Green and Cole to pay down some of the debt, as the club had broken its covenant and was on the brink of administration. dg’

The action group have since replied:

‘Mr Gold. The fans want truthful honest answers. This is our open invite for you to come and speak to the fans… come and be a speaker at our march and tell the fans some truth. This won’t be a Q&A, we just want answers from 3 simple questions. Why haven’t we got a stadium fit for football? Why was all our heritage sold online and not brought with us? And why have we been promised things that haven’t been delivered? We just want the truth Mr Gold. No more lies’

http://www.claretandhugh.info/gold-replies-to-the-real-west-ham-fans/


Gold invited to anti-Board demo

Filed: Tuesday, 13th February 2018
By: Staff Writer

David Gold has been offered the opportunity to speak to thousands of West Ham United supporters who intend to march against the Board next month.

The co-chairman, who has clearly been rocked by the level of support for next month's march responded to a message from organisers, the Real West Ham Fans Action Group in which it was suggested that the club had gone backwards under the ownership of Gold and partner David Sullivan.

"10 years ago we owned our own stadium and everyone loved it," read a missive from the Group, posted on Monday morning. "10 years on our home has been knocked down and we now play in an athletics stadium that a lot of fans hate... progress at its finest."

Shortly before midnight last night (Monday), Gold responded to the tweet by claiming that West Ham United was on the verge of entering administration prior to his and Sullivan's intervention in 2010, when there were several parties interested in purchasing the club.

"Ten years ago the stadium was (for all intents and purposes) owned by the banks," he replied. "Just before we arrived the banks were demanding the club sell [Scott] Parker, [Robert] Green and [Carlton] Cole to pay down some of the debt, as the club had broke its covenant and was on the brink of administration."

And that response led to an open invitation from the organisers to Gold, who was asked to explain himself directly to the fans. "The fans want truthful honest answers," replied the Action Group. "This is our open invite for you to come and speak to the fans. Come and be a speaker at our march and tell the fans the truth."

Gold - who previously agreed to be interviewed by KUMB.com in 2010, but has rejected all attempts since to arrange it - is yet to confirm whether he will accept the Group's invite. West Ham fans will march in Stratford on 10 March.
Read more at http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=132196#ERGFIO92csrTufFg.99

http://www.kumb.com/story.php?id=132196


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,605 from 1589 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

CaptainBlueAndClaret 12:47 Tue Feb 13
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Doc H Ball on Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:18 am

Yesterday was the start of the Club's charm offensive. We will have another month of it - programmes, open letters from the Chairmen, planted newspaper articles, pseudo apologies etc, all aimed at watering the protest down. It will be nauseous.

Yesterday I noticed how they played 'Real' music - Twist and Shout, London Calling etc in the attempt to go back to when 'history begun' and try to rewrite it.

I wonder what Joe Strummer would make of it all? I miss having him around - his lyrics stand the test of time.
How ironic it was hearing this being sung -


London calling to the faraway towns
Now war is declared and battle come down
London calling to the underworld
Come out of the cupboard you boys and girls


Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Rio on Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:30 am

In terms of the aims of the march, the people organising it are realistic. We know they won't go 'ooohh look a protest, Karren pop down Tesco's and get some carrier bags, we're packing'

The aim is to get them to alter their ways. In an ideal world, we want them out. We want our club back. We want them to act in a professional manner, treat us with respect, be honest, stop the lies, stop the deceit, stop fueling the animosity which they have not only created, but poured petrol and and thrown a lit match on.

As for the route. It's not as simple as just saying meet here, we'll march to there. It's a logistical nightmare.

Details will be announced in due course. [POSTED BEFORE THE DETAILS OF THE MARCH WERE REVEALED]

All we're asking for is support. As I said earlier, a couple of hours of your time could make a huge difference. A show of numbers is needed. Be a part of it. Be a part of history. Be a part of this club. Let's start the first steps to making it a far better place.

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1220


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,605 from 1589 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

Swiss. 1:46 Mon Feb 12
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
So Sully is blame the managers and their signings on the looks of this Bilic and BFS for this.

So is he refering to Ayew, Snodgrass, Calleri and Zaza.

But they can take the credit for Payet, Lanzini, Antonio and Arnie

pathetic

CaptainBlueAndClaret 12:43 Mon Feb 12
Re: Someone save our Football Club.
From KUMB;

Re: Real West Ham Fans Action Group
by Tross on Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:59 pm

I've posted this on a few sites as there seems to be momentum gathering to derail the march and divide our support base at a time when unity is what will define us.

I think you have to do little more than look at the number of other supporters groups and websites that are all joining the march under their own banners, to recognise that the levels of dissatisfaction at the repeated broken promises to the fans of this great club have reached a tipping point.

I have nothing but respect for those who have the understanding and foresight to recognise the damage being done, and the prospects of further damage being done without change, to this club. Many of you seem to overlook that dialogue and communication was attempted with the club on a number of occasions by a variety of independent supporter groups. The contempt shown to them by the board was little short of a disgrace. The only option left was to march on March 10th.

Football fans come in all shapes, sizes, colours and flavours. Some of us are educated, some are not. A huge number across the spectrum however share a common frustration and disappointment at being constantly over promised and under delivered against, and sadly. . . shamefully in fact. . . feel they are being systematically detached from the club they have supported for years. In many cases generations of fans are attending the March to highlight frustrations that range from poor stewarding, to bad disabled fan experiences, to under investment and challenges on how the so called "saved from liquidation" package has become a series of loans with our owners seemingly profiteering from the mistakes of the Icelandic regime.

To dismiss your fellow fan in the manner a number of fans have, without understanding how and why they are exercising their right to protest, is to demonstrate a lack of understanding on your own part.

All I'd ask is that you engage and examine the points & pledges made by the board, the complete lack of demonstrable progress we have made against them, the lack of value for money that we as supporters are receiving, while the debt at our club fails to reduce significantly despite increased "investment" from third parties and the sale of The beloved Boleyn, player sales and a number of increased revenue streams.

In any line of business I can think of no board of directors would survive after such a failed transition period as has been witnessed at West Ham United. Those who will march on March the 10th recognise and wish to highlight those failings, hold the current guardians of our great club accountable for their failings, get them to take responsibility for them, and drive the change that we as fans deserve to see given what we collectively signed up for. . .

As West Ham Fans, our resolve was tested by a previous board with the Bond Scheme. . . United We Stand was adopted and we drove change, the right kind of change which all supporters benefitted from. On Saturday the 10th March, we march. . . and with the grace of God we will once again drive the change that our club needs for the benefit of all West Ham United supporters. Nothing stands in the way of progress. . . .that much is true. . . but I'll leave you with a quote from Dr Martin Luther King Jnr from back in the day. . . "Oppressed people cannot remain oppressed forever. The yearning for freedom eventually manifests itself". . . and a small ask, please engage and understand the frustrations of your fellow fan, and respect his or her right to demonstrate.

Looking forward to and will be proud to march under the KUMB.com banner on the 10th

Tross

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=1200


null, United Kingdom (Daily Mail comment)

UNITY? You will see UNITY on March 10th. Unlike Mr Sullivan I don't lie. There are people with flights booked from Italy, Tenerife, Cyprus, Sweden, Spain, Lanzarote, Vancouver, Ireland etc etc etc. UNITY, we'll show you UNITY. From six months old to 92 years old. REAL WEST HAM FANS. I hope the press are there and tell the truth. Football is nothing without fans.

West Ham Fans United, where are you coming from?
[Worldwide map of West Ham United supporters, coming to THE march on the 10th March 2018]

https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=2877569

Peter Charalambous, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “Indeed, Unity is what we need - in protest against the Board.”

Dave Shepherd, RWHFAG contributor and supporter: “They want unity - Unity is what they’ll get. All sorts of Groups coming together here with one common aim. Sullivan, Gold and Brady get out of our club ⚒”


The Real West Ham Fans Action Group (RWHFAG) Appeal has now raised £26,565 from 1587 supporters.

https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag


"We feel that David Sullivan is unfit to run our football club," RWHFAG committee member Micky Morgan told KUMB. "He helped destroy Birmingham and he's destroying West Ham, which is why we're here. The damage is done now.

"Sullivan seems to think that West Ham fans no longer have any clout. He doesn't realise what's coming.”

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