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Alan 11:40 Thu Oct 26
Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
BBC

Barcelona are continuing to work on a deal to sign Philippe Coutinho in January, with Liverpool valuing the 25-year-old attacking midfielder at £133m. (Mundo Deportivo - in Spanish)

Tottenham are scouting Ajax midfielder Donny van de Beek, 20, and 18-year-old winger Justin Kluivert, son of former Netherlands striker Patrick. (Sky Sports)

Arsenal and Manchester United are both monitoring Borussia Dortmund's 28-year-old forward Marco Reus, whose contact expires at the end of next season. (Sky Germany, via Daily Mail)

Newcastle and West Brom are interested in signing Wolves' 24-year-old defensive midfielder Conor Coady. (Sun)

Manchester United left-back Luke Shaw, 22, is concerned he may never have a proper first-team chance again as his relationship with manager Jose Mourinho has broken down. (Guardian)

Shaw and Mourinho are understood to not be on speaking terms because of the full-back's frustration at his lack of game time this season. (Times)

Arsenal want former Barcelona director Raul Sanllehi, who was involved in the signing of Neymar, as their new director of operations. (Sport - in Spanish)

Former Gunners winger Marc Overmars, now a director at Ajax, is another candidate for the role. (Independent)

West Ham's landlords at London Stadium are on the verge of bankruptcy, with the Hammers at risk of being locked out of their ground. (Sun)

Arsenal owner Stan Kroenke says the club have not given up hope of keeping midfielder Mesut Ozil, 29, and forward Alexis Sanchez, 28. (Telegraph)

Kroenke says he will never sell the club, and plans to pass on his stake to the next generation of his family. (Mirror)

Arsenal's supporters' trust has demanded that Kroenke's son Josh and chairman Sir Chips Keswick are not reappointed to the board of directors. (Daily Mail)
Meanwhile...

West Ham's Angelo Ogbonna was in defiant mood as the Hammers upset the form book and came from two goals down at half-time to beat Tottenham 3-2 and progress to the League Cup quarter-finals. But did he forget they were already at Wembley last night?



Former Sunderland striker Asamoah Gyan, 31, now with Turkish club Kayserispor, is planning to launch his own airline, having secured a licence to set one up in his native Ghana. (Sun)

Mauricio Pochettino claims Daniel Levy never places age limits on Tottenham signings despite the club prioritising younger players when they enter the market. (London Evening Standard)

Crystal Palace defender Pape Souare had his shirt thrown back at him by a fan following Tuesday's 4-1 EFL Cup defeat by Bristol City. (Telegraph)

Arsenal and Manchester City could be forced to replay their EFL Cup fourth-round ties after making too many substitutions in extra-time. (Sun)

Everton told their summer signing Nikola Vlasic that he could not take the number 19 shirt because they were reserving it for transfer target Diego Costa, who has since joined Atletico Madrid from Chelsea. (24sata, via Daily Mail)

Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp called his players in for a lengthy team meeting following Sunday's 4-1 defeat by Tottenham. (Liverpool Echo)

The best of Wednesday's gossip

Barcelona midfielders Andres Iniesta and Ivan Rakitic have opposed the club's plans to sign Liverpool star Philippe Coutinho. (Diario Gol via Express)

Diafra Sakho has insisted that he remains determined to leave West Ham after his failed transfer deadline day move to Rennes. (Sky Sports)

Chelsea manager Antonio Conte is looking to keep Charly Musonda for the rest of the season and does not want him to leave on loan in January. (London Evening Standard)

Tottenham Hotspur are keen on Ajax midfielder Donny van de Beek, having already bought defender Davinson Sanchez from the Dutch club in the summer. (Soccer News via HITC)

Chelsea are ready to pay £71m for Atletico Madrid midfielder Saul Niguez at the end of the season. (Don Balon via Daily Star)





Guardian Rumour Mill

Barry Glendenning

Why can’t everyone just get along? It’s a question the Rumour Mill ponders on a daily basis, as it surveys the news over its morning mug of bracing custom blend Mountain Morning Organic, to be confronted with one sad story of discord and disharmony, after another, with few being more heart-rending than the apparent frostiness between José Mourinho and Luke Shaw. Previously the world’s most expensive teenager, Shaw is now fourth or fifth choice left-back at Manchester United and suffered his latest humiliation upon being given only four minutes of action in the knockings of a Carabao Cup match his side had already put to bed against Swansea City.

Yesterday the Guardian reported that Mourinho is “understood to be unhappy with Shaw’s attitude”, while today the story has moved on with the Times informing that the pair are no longer on speaking terms and Shaw may seek a move elsewhere in January. A known fan of Danny Rose, who has previous in the field of voicing his dissatisfaction with the miserly stipend on which he is forced to scrape by at Tottenham Hotspur, Mourinho may attempt to orchestrate a swap deal both players could find mutually beneficial in January.

Tottenham Hotspur are also reported to be monitoring Ajax duo Justin Kluivert and Donny van de Beek. Kluivert, 18, the son of goalscoring Dutch nightclub enthusiast Patrick is something of a chip off the old block and scored two goals in 20 appearances for Ajax last season, but has yet to get off the mark in seven outings in the current campaign. Two years his senior, Van de Beek has almost 50 appearances for the famous Dutch club behind him already.

Following on from Wednesday’s big news that Manchester United might be interested in relieving Borussia Dortmund of Marco Reus at the end of the season, Sky Germany have reported that Arsenal are also interested in the midfielder. Reus is currently sidelined with a serious knee injury and is not expected to play again until March.

Philippe Coutinho’s on again, off again, on again, off again, on again to Barcelona is off again, according to reports from Spain, who say Andrés Iniesta and Ivan Rakitic don’t want their club to sign the Liverpool midfielder as it would reduce their playing time. Quite how much influence the two players have on Barcelona recruitment policy is open to question, but at least talk of their disquiet has allowed us to fill 77 words worth of space.

Having been linked with Sampdoria midfielder Dennis Praet during the summer, Newcastle are expected to move for him again in January. The 23-year-old Belgian playmaker has underwhelmed in his season-and-a-bit with the Serie A side, but Caclio Mercato say Samp won’t countenance selling him until the end of the season, when Newcastle would be able to activate the €20m release clause in his contract.






Sun

West Ham landlords on brink of going bust – so mayor and council fight to avoid humiliation of Hammers being locked out of London Stadium

New dispute over the club's low-cost lease seems certain as the price of keeping E20 Stadium LLP out of administration is likely to be MORE public funding on top of hundreds of millions

Exclusive By Dan King

WEST HAM’S landlords at the London Stadium are on the verge of going bust.

The Mayor of London and Newham Council will move heaven and earth to avoid the humiliation of the Hammers being locked out of their ground or made homeless.

But the price of keeping E20 Stadium LLP out of administration is almost certain to be the investment of even more public money on top of the hundreds of millions already spent.

And athletics chiefs are worried the crisis could lead to their sport losing its annual right to stage events in the former Olympic Stadium, totally undermining the London 2012 legacy.

Sources indicate there is no realistic prospect of persuading or forcing West Ham to increase their current annual rent of just £2.5m.

But the generous terms of the Premier League strugglers’ 99-year lease are likely to come under renewed attack.

The row was already due to go public again in the coming weeks with the publication of a report into why it cost £323m to convert the stadium - on top of the £429m spent on construction.

E20 Stadium LLP is a joint venture between the London Legacy Development Corporation – an offshoot of the Greater London Authority – and Newham Legacy Investments Ltd, a company controlled by the London Borough of Newham.

They invested about £260m and £40m of public money respectively into the conversion costs, with West Ham providing £15m.

Current London mayor Sadiq Khan commissioned the report last year and is putting pressure on accountancy firm Moore Stephens to deliver their findings, which were due back in June.

Khan will use the report as political ammunition to attack predecessor Boris Johnson over key decisions made about the stadium.

But the review is also expected to lay bare the troubled finances of E20 and major stakeholders are already privately discussing the possibility of administration.





Mail

Tottenham 2-3 West Ham: Slaven Bilic rescued by guardian Angelo Ogbonna as Spurs take Hammers to the brink before Andre Ayew helps them hit back and secure Carabao Cup quarter-final spot

Moussa Sissoko put Mauricio Pochettino's side in front after a swift Spurs counter attack on six minutes
The home team then doubled their lead shortly before the break thanks to Dele Alli's deflected effort
Andre Ayew gave West Ham hope 10 minutes into the second half after reacting first to a loose ball
The striker then levelled the scores five minutes later after good work by Manuel Lanzini and Andy Carroll
Angelo Ogbonna then completed the remarkable turnaround when he headed home on 70 minutes

By Ian Ladyman

As Angelo Ogbonna’s winning goal settled into the back of the Tottenham net, West Ham goalkeeper Adrian set off up field to join in the celebrations.

Briefly, he paused as if remembering that this was only the Carabao Cup. But then he was back in full flight. Sometimes, a winning goal is just a bit more important than it looks on paper.

And who knows how important this one may turn out to be for Slaven Bilic? At half-time, the great Croat looked beaten and bowed. The West Ham manager has looked this way for a while now but here at Wembley it looked very bad indeed.


Angelo Ogbonna netted the winner for West Ham as they came from 2-0 down to record a stunning 3-2 win over Tottenham


The defender headed home to complete an incredible Carabao Cup comeback at Wembley started by Andre Ayew (centre)

His team had betrayed him in losing 3-0 at home to Brighton in the Premier League last Friday and they had betrayed him again here in the first half.

West Ham’s opening 45 minutes had been truly shameful, lacking any kind of purpose or tangible commitment.

Bilic’s players had shown the very worst of themselves and were fortunate to be only two goals down after a half in which they had played almost no part.

Bilic was on his way out. He had to be. Chalk his name up underneath those of Frank de Boer, Craig Shakespeare and Ronald Koeman, sacked before the clocks have gone back.

But then this game changed in such a way as only a football match can. There was no particular reason for it to happen. Bilic made no changes in personnel at half-time and there was nothing in his team’s tactics or formation that looked greatly different.

But the game changed nonetheless and when it did it was largely attributable to a single moment. This, sometimes, is just how sport works.


Andre Ayew turned home from close range after Michel Vorm could only parry Edimilson Fernandes's shot from distance


The travelling West Ham supporters celebrate Ogbonna's winners which secured them a place in the Carabao Cup last-eight

West Ham had been slightly better for the first 10 minutes or so of the second half. They had spent a bit of time with the ball and some time in the Tottenham half of the pitch, which in itself was an improvement.

They had not been kicking Tottenham’s door down, though. They had not been placing great pressure on goal.

Had home goalkeeper Michel Vorm held on to Edimilson Fernandes’s low drive after a corner was cleared to the edge of the penalty area in the 55th minute, the great likelihood is that this game would have meandered to a conclusion that looked likely from the moment Moussa Sissoko gave Tottenham the lead in the sixth minute. But the shot was firmly struck and Vorm did not hold on to it as he may have expected to do.

Instead, he parried it firmly into the path of West Ham’s Andre Ayew and, when the Ghana forward passed it back into the net from a few yards, the game was reset on a course from which it then refused to deviate.

At this point nobody in the stadium really expected West Ham to capitalise fully on this unlikely foothold. This West Ham team just don’t look the kind to do things like that.

But it soon became clear that the momentum of the contest had shifted and, as surprising as it was, Tottenham were unable to heave it back again.


West Ham attacking midfielder Fernandes tries to chase down Tottenham forward Son at Wembley on Wednesday evening


West Ham and England forward Andy Carroll fires a shot at goal as Ben Davies tries to make the block for the home side

It must be said here that Spurs were dreadful in the second half, particularly in the way that they defended.

Even more surprising was that Toby Alderweireld, normally so reliable, was the worst of the lot.

It was the Belgian who was beaten in the air by Andy Carroll in the 60th minute and then he who couldn’t react quickly enough as Ayew eased into position to capitalise on Manuel Lanzini’s subsequent cut-back.

Then, 10 minutes later, it was Alderweireld who did not track Ogbonna’s run as he steamed in to head the winner from a corner with 20 minutes left.

So, yes, Tottenham were very unlike the Tottenham we know in the critical, crazy 15-minute spell that turned this game on its head. One wonders what that will do for confidence ahead of Saturday’s Premier League match at Manchester United.


Cheikhou Kouyate rises to meet a ball into the area but he and West Ham were unable to find a breakthrough in the first half


The Senegal international midfielder upends Tottenham forward Son during the Carabao Cup clash on Wednesday night


Danny Rose and West Ham skipper Mark Noble clashed early in the second half as West Ham looked to get back in the game

But let us not take anything away from West Ham. How a team so wretched in one half could lift themselves to such previously unexplored heights less than half an hour later is unfathomable. They did not just score their three goals, they hung on gamely under late pressure as well.

Earlier, they looked utterly incapable and the only surprise was that they were still in the game at half-time. Tottenham’s first goal was a great one to score and a bad one to concede.

Fernando Llorente’s flick set Son Heung-min away and, when he burst forward to feed Sissoko, the big Frenchman buried a shot on the run with his right instep.

It seemed the pattern was set and West Ham were so passive it seemed only a matter of time before Tottenham scored again.

They eventually did when Dele Alli’s shot was deflected in off 18-year-old Declan Rice eight minutes before half-time and Bilic and his players left the pitch to jeers from their 5,000 supporters at the interval. Heaven knows what Bilic said at half-time but whatever it was he should bottle it and take it to Crystal Palace on Saturday.

His team have given him a performance just when it looked like it was too late. Well, half a performance anyway.

MATCH FACTS

Tottenham (3-5-2): Vorm 5; Foyth 5.5, Alderweireld 5, Davies 5; Trippier 6, Sissoko 6.5, Dier 6, Dele 6, Rose 6; Llorente 6 (Dembele 72, 6), Son 7

Subs not used: Gazzaniga, Sanchez, Nkoudou, Eriksen, Winks, Walker-Peters

Scorers: Sissoko 6, Alli 37

Booked: None

Manager: Mauricio Pochettino 6

West Ham (3-5-2): Adrian 6.5; Kouyate 6, Rice 6.5, Ogbonna 6.5; Byram 6, Noble 6.5, Fernandes 6, Lanzini 6, Cresswell 6; Carroll 6, Ayew 7.5

Subs not used: Hart, Fonte, Arnautovic, Obiang, Hernandez, Kaksabanovic, Masuaku

Scorers: Ayew 55, 60, Ogbonna 70

Booked: None

Manager: Slaven Bilic 7

Referee: Mike Dean 6




Guardian

André Ayew kickstarts West Ham revival to dump Tottenham out of Carabao Cup

Barney Ronay at Wembley

West Ham United produced a sensational comeback at Wembley Stadium, scoring three times in 15 second-half minutes to turn a 2-0 deficit into a 3-2 victory that propelled Slaven Bilic’s team into the quarter-finals of the Carabao Cup.

For Bilic, struggling to save his job past the weekend, this was a rousing show of strength from a much-changed team that had looked shot at half-time as Tottenham Hotspur scored twice while barely flexing their muscles. Instead West Ham surged back and produced one of the great Carabao Cup nights, led by a ragged but rousing captain’s performance from Mark Noble and some energetic opportunism from André Ayew, who scored twice.



Wembley was half full at kick-off, an impressive effort in the circumstances. It is easy to be blasé about these things, but in reality 36,000 fans for a midweek third-tier domestic cup competition is pretty sensational going.

There was an impressive swirl of noise as West Ham kicked off a game that had drawn most of its outside interest from the ongoing slow-cooked departure of Bilic. There has been a zombified quality to Bilic’s time on the London Stadium touchline, a sense of some doomed alpha primate left to roam that vast open space between pitch and dugout, bellowing up at the trees, pointing vaguely at the distant figures while up in the stands plans are laid and successions put in place.

This week the Hoffenheim manager, Julian Nagelsmann, has been mentioned as a possible replacement. The same day a rambling, unshaven Bilic gave an alarmingly hangdog press conference, as the suggestion emerged he has been given two games to save his job, a ludicrous, unworkable scenario in practice.

Here Spurs made seven changes from the weekend. For West Ham it was nine, for a game that before kick-off had looked like a minor distraction before the make-or-break of Crystal Palace on Saturday.

The best thing that can be said about West Ham in the first half is they had a decent first five minutes. At which point they waved Tottenham through for the opening goal. Declan Rice was taken out of the game by a lovely touch by Fernando Llorente. Son Heung-min drove forward into the large empty space in front of him. His pass to Moussa Sissoko was perfectly weighted, the low finish effortless.

Son reprised his role as a central striker from the defeat of Liverpool at the weekend and he was a sparkling presence in the first half. Kieran Trippier and the returning Danny Rose hugged the touchline. Dele Alli had a header palmed up into the air by Adrián when he really should have scored.

Noble did his best to drive his team-mates on but looked understandably rusty as West Ham played with some energy if no real precision, every attack laced with the fear of a Spurs counter. The second goal duly arrived on 36 minutes. A passage of intricate Tottenham passing worked some space for Alli to stop, look up and curl a shot that found the far corner off Aaron Cresswell’s head.

By that point there had already been some outbreaks of bottle-chucking between home and away fans, inadequately separated by four rows of seats and a thin line of unfortunate stewards. “Slaven Bilic, we want you to stay,” the Spurs fans sang as the whistle blew for half time, at which point it really did feel like a case of how many.

Except West Ham had other ideas. Whatever Bilic said at the break, he really should have been saying it all season as his team came steaming out with far greater intent.

Noble had a spat near the touchline with Rose. Andy Carroll began to win his headers. With 55 minutes gone Ayew pulled the score back to 2-1, finishing from close range after Michel Vorm had palmed out a hard low shot from Edimilson Fernandes. West Ham’s bulging away section erupted, and suddenly we had a cup tie. Ayew was running across the front line with manic intent. Bilic was up on his touchline pointing and barking. And on the hour it was Ayew for 2-2, the Ghanaian sliding in to finish Manuel Lanzini’s slid pass at the end of a slick move.

Suddenly West Ham were driving the game against a Spurs team struggling to raise their levels. On 69 minutes a brilliantly unexpected comeback was complete, Angelo Ogbonna losing Toby Alderweireld at a corner and bulleting the ball home. In the space of 15 minutes 2-0 had become 2-3, and Spurs had gone from romping, strolling bullies to a clutch of bewildered white shirts.

They pressed hard without ever managing to create any clear chances. At the final whistle Bilic leapt about on the touchline as the West Ham end erupted. Almost exactly 10 years ago Bilic’s Croatia team had beaten England by the same score on this ground, a result that in effect made him as a manager. For West Ham’s fans this will go down as a sensational one-off against their London rivals, and a reminder of why the cups retain their allure. For Bilic it is a moment to breathe, for now, a little easier.




Telegraph

Tottenham 2 West Ham 3: Andre Ayew scores twice to spark stunning comeback win

Sam Dean, match report, at Wembley Stadium

Considering he has spent much of the past year teetering on the brink, it is perhaps no surprise that Slaven Bilic has developed the taste for a dramatic escape. Just when his job appears to be dangling by the thinnest of threads, his West Ham side produce a result and a stay of execution for their manager.

We have seen it all before, but never has the rabbit been pulled from the hat as spectacularly as this. Against an imperious Tottenham Hotspur outfit that had already reached cruise control after a first-half exhibition, West Ham scored three goals in 15 minutes to stun Mauricio Pochettino’s side with the most unlikely of comebacks.

Angelo Ogbonna and Andre Ayew were the heroes, but this was a night for the collective. So poor against Brighton in that 3-0 drubbing at home last week, here was a timely statement from these players that they have not given up on their manager just yet.

“We have to use this,” said Bilic, whose side next face Crystal Palace on Saturday. “But if we think now we are suddenly OK then it would have been better for us to lose this game.

“The wins give you energy and they give you freshness. Tomorrow, at the training ground, no one is going to be tired.”

Time will tell what impact this victory will have on Bilic’s future and West Ham’s season. But the nature of the comeback, and the wild celebrations at the end, suggested this was a result of some significance for their morale.

Can the same be said for Spurs? To lose like this to a London rival is always troubling, even if the Carabao Cup is not a “real” trophy, as Pochettino had implied earlier this week.

“It is difficult to explain and it is difficult to analyse,” Pochettino said. “We are so disappointed. They have enough quality if you allow them to come back into the game. They had nothing to lose.”

Trailing to goals from Moussa ­Sissoko and Dele Alli, West Ham and Bilic went into the changing rooms at the break with their heads bowed and their prides bruised.

“I told them to calm down,” said Bilic. “And when we get the ball to play with more bravery.”

That they did, and it was a result made all the more impressive by the strength of the Spurs team they had crushed, even if Harry Kane had been rested.

Pochettino made seven changes to the Spurs side that thrashed Liverpool here on Sunday, but it was still a fearsome line-up. The likes of Sissoko, Fernando Llorente and Eric Dier returned to the team, while there was also a first start since January for Danny Rose.

Bilic, inevitably, made drastic changes of his own from their miserable loss to Brighton. No fewer than nine players were removed following that Friday fright-night, with Bilic matching Pochettino’s decision to play three central defenders.

That plan was in tatters after just six minutes. Spurs broke down the left, with Llorente finding Son in space. As he charged through the middle unmarked, Sissoko would hardly have believed his luck.

Of three West Ham centre-backs, not one of them stood in the centre of the pitch, while the midfield provided a passable impression of traffic wardens guiding Sissoko towards goal.

He had plenty of time, then, to pick up Son’s pass and find the bottom corner. It was the sort of end-to-end goal one might accept in the final six minutes of a match, when legs are tiring. To concede like this at such an early stage was bordering on criminal.

Alli was dovetailing nicely with Son in between those porous West Ham bodies, and he claimed the second as his curling effort deflected into the corner off the head of Declan Rice.

There had, in fairness, been moments between the two goals in which West Ham were not totally abject, but there were no chances of note. “I saw in the first half good things from us,” Bilic said. Still, there was little encouragement until the second half. “We were closing them down much better,” Bilic said. “We were passing the ball and suddenly we scored the goal and the energy changed.”

The first of those came through Ayew, after Spurs goalkeeper Michel Vorm had failed to hold a shot from Edimilson Fernandes.

Ayew then notched an improbable equaliser five minutes later, firing home Manuel Lanzini’s cross. “We have not been doing ourselves justice but I said during the week we have to wear the shirt with pride and we did that,” said captain Mark Noble.

Before they knew it, West Ham had the lead. Lanzini was pulling the strings again, and his corner found Ogbonna, who completed the comeback with a glancing header into the far corner.



Replies - Newest Posts First (Show In Chronological Order)

Texas Iron 7:56 Fri Oct 27
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Cheers...

Stay Strong Alan...😊😊

Thanks Alan 3:38 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
ted fenton. 11:43 Thu Oct 26

Ron Greensward 1:52 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Thanks Alan Hope that's given a boost to your day.

Fivetide 1:07 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Thanks Alan - great to have a win to report!

Takashi Miike 12:56 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
nice one Alan

Mad Dog 12:48 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Thanks alan

" but in reality 36,000 fans for a midweek third-tier domestic cup competition is pretty sensational going."

Oh really??? We got that in the last round and got over 50k last year.

This was a London derby. We were only given 5k we'd have sold 20k away if we'd been given the tickets. At least

happygilmore 11:45 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Thanks Alan.

A pleasant read.

ted fenton 11:43 Thu Oct 26
Re: Thursday newspapers (includes West Ham)
Thanks Alan.





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