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Q: 2017/18 Leicester (h)
a. Moyes has had all week with the whole squad and that will make a difference, Win
7%
  
b. Where do we start, a point would be good, Draw
11%
  
c. Let's be honest we're a shambles, still letting in two goals a game so what chance, Lose
46%
  
d. "You've destroyed our fucking Club", the only way to get the pride back in WHUFC is when the Clowns leave, Who's up for a protest?
32%
  
e. Can you believe my luck, another game on SKY so back to the pub, head to toe in club merchandise and show that I'm hardcore West Ham who follows the Club home and away from my seat at the bar
4%
  



Athletico Easthamico 12:14 Tue Nov 7
Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
https://twitter.com/bbcmotd/status/926945978757693440

Caught Gary Lineker asking BFS on MOTD whether West Ham are a difficult club to manage and he said yes.

Gave a quite reasoned reply with no sarcastic comments and highlighted the desire to play good football (even if the players aren't good enough) and basically forgetting the need to defend properly first and foremost, which could be quite boring I suppose.

Is it unreasonable of us to ask for a happy medium? Is it the fact Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea are getting further away from us?

Do we put unrealistic expectations on our managers?

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brick_lane_batty_boy 11:39 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
I genuinely don't think you'd hear many complaints if we were defending well, not playing the most entertaining football - but consistently getting good results. The prime example of this was in the championship - it wasn't pretty but he got the job done.

The problem with Big Sam in the end - was that the football wasn't great - but the results were even worse - That is when people take exception and start to complain.

I personally think we're happy to take one without the other - Entertainment and commitment with mixed results - or solidarity and organisation with good results. When you have neither, I think people have more than a right to complain and ask for change.

At the moment, I'd love a bit of solidity at the back, mixed with some actual commitment from the players that take to the field. Most managers outside of the elite are much of a muchness - that's just a fact - The players need to start stepping up and taking responsibility for wearing that shirt - A bit of professional and personal pride would not go amiss.

JayeMPee 11:31 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Any club with the garbage we have in our boardroom would be difficult to manage. Nothing will seriously change until the three of them have gone.

BulphanIron 10:35 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
We probably have 3 of the biggest cunts in English football in charge, and now we have no home ground either.

I'd say most would struggle under those conditions...

HairyHammer 10:25 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Yes it is a difficult club to manage and now the bigger stadium that is not a football stadium makes it even more difficult .

Though it is nothing that a good intelligent manager and a sheik with billions to spare for his new beloved footy club cannot sort out.

Hammer and Pickle 10:21 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
The idea seams to be that managers are there to make sure the players perform well enough not to lose a match while the fans provide their own entertainment with songs, banter and the odd ruck.

Difficult club to manage? Oh do fuck off.

Sniper 10:16 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Allardyce' comments sent a bit of a shudder through me when he stated were difficult to manage because the fans demand a particular style of football and not just focus on a solid defence 'like football should be'

That's what is wrong with managers like him and pulis and if chuck moyes in that group - it's such a limited view of the game to think that the best way is just to not concede and try to nick a goal. That might have been ok years back but not when 55000 people have paid £30 to watch a spectacle

I'd say we're difficult to manage in the same way that newcastle or even Everton are - big clubs with a rich history who have massively underachieved for decades, largely because of rubbish owners, and whose fans can only get by from seeing their players playing good football

El Scorchio 10:09 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Allardyce has a point. But the biggest problem is probably the owners. Well- Sullivan. He doesn’t seem easy to work for and it seems he will throw his manager under the bus if it saves his own face, going back to saying Zola insisted on buying McCarthy.

It must be tricky to work for someone who wants all the credit and won’t accept any blame and states it all very publically.

Brucies_Star_Prize 10:02 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
I’d say so, yes.

Think it’s best to view it as expectation vs resources to deliver. Our net spend is low, certainly not high enough to warrant us knocking on the door of the top clubs, but that seems to be the expectation.

That’s mainly down to the owners selling a dream which they are not capable of delivering. Fans are pissed off with the stadium because they were told it was a vehicle for taking us to the next level when in reality we will continue to bob around in lower mid table (or worse).

On top of that is the expectation to play expansive, entertaining football, which is difficult for teams without an abundance of resources. If you exclude the top teams, most Premier League managers who are successful over a long period ar focussed on making their teams hard to beat which isn’t always pretty.

In Bilic’s first season he delivered a level of entertainment and success that our fans enjoyed. He’s massively struggled since and the atmosphere has become toxic. I’m not sure his replacement will find things any easier in the long run.

Trevor B 9:51 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
PD

I think the problem is that we have good individual players, but not a good team. We are lesser than the sum of our parts. I'm not sure if that's down to poor management, or buying the wrong players.

One McAvennieeeeee 9:51 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Big shame one of those players came on and ruined the win we had sewn up really, PD son.

Still, we have the manager now, with the experience to take us to that next level.

Looking forward to WATFORD away, I must say.

Private Dancer 9:46 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
This was our BENCH at Palace...Adrian, Obiang, Arnautovic, Carroll, Antonio, Rice, Masuaku..

Certainly don't think we need rebuilding, just a manager who can get better out of them.

Chrisel 9:41 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
At the moment West Ham are a difficult club to manage.

Whilst we would all love silverware, a bigger complaint recently seems to have been a loss of identity. That isn't just about the stadium, it's about a "brand"of football and bringing through young talent.

In the past, this would've made West Ham easy to manage, a relegation every now and again didn't matter so much as sticking to those principles. Now the board (and to be fair ANY board) could not tolerate this.

The manager at West Ham is now stuck between these two, often competing, philosophies.

Hammer and Pickle 9:41 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Have you been eating fish or something stewie, son?

stewie griffin 9:39 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
I've never denied that as names on a piece of paper it looks ok. Trying to fashion a decebt team is very different. In reality most are past their best. We have the oldest squad in the league. Additionally, this is the most mentally feeble group I've seen ever - concede one and you know another is coming. We made the most individual errors of any team in the league last season. People can tie themselves in knots about coaching but the clue there is in the word individual. Could go on, but there's an overwhelming body if evidence over 18 months that suggests this isn't an especially good group

Private Dancer 9:32 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Plenty of good enough players in this squad, son. You only had to see our bench recently to see that. Maybe you don't think they are good enough and/or are looking for excuse for your mate leaving us in the bottom 3, remember the top players aint coming here anyway, so who are these players that are gonna rebuild us? Will be interesting to see who comes in in January though.

stewie griffin 9:26 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
I'll stick with the massive amount of evidence that this isn't a good squad if that's ok, BC son?

Private Dancer 9:23 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
''This one needs another rebuilding job''

No it doesn't, we have the basis of a good squad even if Bilic has left us in the bottom 3. Besides, pretty much all new managers want to overhaul squads when they first arrive at clubs.

Hammer and Pickle 9:18 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
stewie griffin 9:00 Tue Nov 7

stewie griffin 9:00 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Yes

Because there's no clearly defined strategy from the owners.
Each manager they employ and then subsequently undermine has completely different ideas how to play so they have to overhaul the squad they inherit. This one needs another rebuilding job.

There's a very good reason managers distance themselves from the role.

Private Dancer 8:51 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
''Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?''


WTF does that even mean? A ridiculous question by jug ears. These fuckers are paid millions a year to essentially try to win games of football and get offered up excuses. Cunts.

PwoperNaughtyButNot 8:41 Tue Nov 7
Re: Are West Ham a difficult club to manage?
Because every other club in the league hasn’t sacked managers, played poorly or had support expectations.

Every club is difficult to manage. If your only ambition is to avoid relegation you will lumber a club with short termism crap and when you leave it becomes impossible for another manager to adjust. Bilic is probably the only manager that was able to keep a club up after allardyce had infested it.

We could be Sunderland, or Leeds or Blackpool. Yes our owners are clowns that clearly interfere to the detriment of the team playing football. I reckon a lot of clubs have the same issue. If I bought a football club for multi millions and loved Football I’d probably get too involved.

Allardyce can go to Everton, tell the world he rescued them and everyone will believe him. They will then work hard to avoid relegation each year and he will eventually get the boot when the fans tire of him. History repeats.

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