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Chigwell 6:30 Thu Nov 9
Can this be murder?
This trial for murder of the woman who poured acid on her ex-boyfriend, causing devastating injuries. The doctors saved his life but then he was granted euthanasia in Belgium. He would still be alive otherwise.Mercy killing is still not legal in the UK.
I don't see how the murder charge can be proved. By all means lock her up and throw away the key, but how can it be said that she killed him?

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JonWHUFC 5:30 Fri Nov 10
Re: Can this be murder?
No chance she will be convicted in this day and age due to her skin colour. The judge will probably also sort out her obvious gender pay gap. I blame Mark Sampson.

, 4:33 Fri Nov 10
Re: Can this be murder?
The thing is if the woman is convicted of something less than murder the sentencing tariffs available to the Judge enable him/her to give a custodial term similar to a murder verdict anyway.

joyo 4:24 Fri Nov 10
Re: Can this be murder?
What if see knew it was acid(quite likely) and did intend to kill him(also likely).... I think it's a good case for murder if he did take his life later, she caused the situation

joyo 4:23 Fri Nov 10
Re: Can this be murder?
What if see knew it was acid(quite likely) and did intend to kill him(also likely).... I think it's a good case for murder if he did take his life later, she caused the situation

Chigwell 5:28 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
The woman in this trial denies knowingly chucking acid, but that's a side issue for the jury. The point I was making doesn't refer to her knowledge or intention anyway, but simply to the fact that the victim was not killed by her actions. He then decided he wanted to die, and in that case how could what she is alleged to have done be a sufficient cause if his death to say that she murdered him?

gph 1:40 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Statutes of limitations exist in English law, but only for a few things, like traffic offences (14 days between act and notice of fine/intention to prosecute), and the Representation of the People Act (the famous year and a day).

That's what Wiki says.

If she was trying to stop him voting, it might apply, but not to the most serious charge.

mashed in maryland 1:40 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Cony Tottee 1:21 Thu Nov 9

Opens up a massive can of worms really doesn't it.

Like all these kids who kill themselves cos they get bullied, it could end up with everyone who's ever done anything mean to them being charged with murder.

Bernie 1:34 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Eddie B 9:59 Thu Nov 9

Utterly superb

Cony Tottee 1:21 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
According to wiki:

Murder is an offence under the common law of England and Wales. It is considered the most serious form of homicide, in which one person kills another with the intention to unlawfully cause either death or serious injury. The element of intentionality was originally termed malice aforethought although it required neither malice nor premeditation.

Because murder is generally defined in law as an intent to cause serious harm or injury (alone or with others), combined with a death arising from that intention, there are certain circumstances where a death will be treated as murder even if the defendant did not wish to kill the actual victim. This is called "transferred malice".

E12Hammer 11:24 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
At best it can only be a manslaughter charge. She didnt mean to kill him, just do him some serious damage.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:09 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Trevor B 11:04 Thu Nov 9

run out of sugar?

neilalex 11:07 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
I think there's been a few Whoicide's that have arguably been murder. Perhaps Defjam and North Bank etc. should look at these.

Trevor B 11:04 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
As was my sarcastic reply. Fuck me surf you really take this place way too seriously at times.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:01 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Trevor B 10:50 Thu Nov 9

Blimey, mate, it was a light-hearted comment. Time for a nice relaxing cuppa.

Far Cough 11:00 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
In English law back in the day, suicide resulted in forfeiture of estate

neilalex 10:58 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
The year and a day rule went many years ago. It's around causation now regardless of the time period. The CPS jointly make the call with the police regarding bringing a prosecution, but in practice the charges brought are normally the domain of the CPS. They tend to be cautious on charging because they want a result, so they must be confident on the facts that they can secure a conviction for murder if they proceed.

Trevor B 10:50 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
No, you don't fucking say.....

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:47 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
I think it was attempted suicide that was illega, way back in the dayl. Not much chance of a successful prosecution against a corpse!!

Eggbert Nobacon 10:46 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Westham67 10:39 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
I take it we are talking about assisting suicide



sort of, a woman threw acid on her boyfriend, he spent 14 months in total agony which it seems was never going to improve in hospital and then went to Switzerland to have an assisted suicide.

The police are charging the woman with murder

Westham67 10:39 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
I take it we are talking about assisting suicide

Trevor B 10:25 Thu Nov 9
Re: Can this be murder?
Suicide hasn't been illegal since 1961. Some of you really need to catch up.

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