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Hermit Road 1:01 Mon Nov 20
Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
“I said to the players at the end, it’s hard to play when the crowd are like that”

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/19/west-ham-watford-david-moyes-plea-unity-fans-anger

Could easily be read like that. Maybe not. Either way, not very smart. Then again, he does love an excuse does Moyesy.

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WHU(Exeter) 9:32 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Moyes does know about the history of some of this.

It's a fair point saying that it would be hard to play with the atmosphere as it is.

But he shouldn't need any reminding, or delving into history too much, when he himself was pointing out that it would be hard to manage this club, when Zola was in charge, due to our current board.

He might not get the full reasons, but he understands part of it fully - our Board interfered too much, needed to back their manager more and were masquerading as people who knew about football.

his own words...

Side of Ham 2:51 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I support a club with a certain mindset that has a fan base that can handle anything and support anything served up AS LONG AS THEY TRY AND THEY REALISE WHAT WE STAND FOR.

The owners have destroyed what we stand for and replaced it with a defined distance between them and us thinking we just wanted a flash facade and fucking treats at halftime. They’ve also put distance between us and the players by putting us in a grey area where we have the ground/wages but don’t have the big standing you need to go with being big so the players are now playing for a brand they get well paid for and not what that brand once stood for.

13 Brentford Rd 2:48 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Must have got louder after each goal.
The cunt owners have so far got away lightly.
I have no issue with anti board stuff during games as it's the best time for it. The days of fans staying behind and protesting are over, London clubs anyway.

El Scorchio 2:43 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I heard Sack The Board very early on.

No problem with it at all, as long as it doesn't go on for ages and get in the way of getting behind the team.

chelmsfordhammer 2:39 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
brentford, the chants started when it was 0-0 , not that I had a problem with them.

13 Brentford Rd 2:36 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Chants didn't start until we were 2 down.
Came over loud and clear n t'radio. "Sack the board and Brady you're a cunt........."

, 1:48 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I agree with Keenan about being able to voice opinions. That is everyone’s individual opinion too whether it’s the majority or a minority opinion.

El Scorchio 1:47 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I don't think there's anything wrong with chanting against the board during a game as long as it doesn't become all consuming and we're still actually activiely supporting the players on the pitch at the same time. Couple of chants is completely fine, but it doesn't need to go on for 10 minutes at a time.

The key thing is we don't start booing and jeering the players from the first misplaced pass, as sometimes happens of late. That won't help matters on the pitch one iota. We need to be loud and right behind them from kick off on Friday.

G Keenan 1:45 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Completely agree with Hermit and others. It's our club and we are entitled to voice our opinions. The owners are charging extortionate rates on the loans to the club and we were completely mis-sold the move to the athletics stadium. The players are on outrageous salaries and most know they are moving clubs in the summer so don't care.

Hermit Road 1:34 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
"Some people need to remember that you go to games to support the team,"

I go because I am West Ham. I was going before any of the current team were born and will be West Ham long after they've gone somewhere else.

Sing before and after and you won't be heard. Do it during the game, you're heard.

Laying down and meekly accepting this board's actions is in no way supporting the club. The fans who did this were absolutely right.

Takashi Miike 1:32 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
E12, they've been shite for almost two years. the crowd have been very patient with them so saying you're not allowed to moan is bollocks

simon.s 1:28 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Fair enough, Buster.


I was there and never heard it, then again I didn’t go up until it was two all!

COOL HAND LUKE 1:24 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?

The way I see it, us fans pay for the right to voice our opinions, and it's not like our current views are groundless, is it?

The players, conversely, are EMPLOYED and PAID HANDSOMELY to get on with their JOBS and get results. There are folks in the crowd who are working all hours God sends for two years or more to get what most of these fuckers get EVERY WEEK.

Moysie needs to identify the ring leaders and move them on, regardless of their abilities. If he doesn't break up the cliques and shift the whispering boys he will fail. He had clearly been briefed on what he was coming into, hence him 'girding his loins' with the likes of Irvine and Pearce.

Sadly, in the interim, we will likely lose one or two of the players we really want to keep.

E12Hammer 1:22 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I agree that the protests against the board have to be loud, and have to be very vocal.

BUT ....

There is a time and place, and througout the game isnt the right time. Before the game, yes, absolutely, bring it on. Half-time, go for it.

During the game we should all be getting behind the team. The players arent deaf, they can hear the chants, so Moyes is right, the fans do have to take a portion of the blame.

Some people need to remember that you go to games to support the team, so support them. Save the vitriol for the right time. Before, half-time, and after the game.

ornchurch ammer 1:18 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
It might not help the players playing in such an atmosphere but they and the board have brought it on themselves with their respective performances and comments.

What will the excuse be for home games, as we are too far from the pitch for them to hear?

Buster 1:12 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
If those precious cunts can't play properly because 2000 fans are singing songs, they shouldn't be anywhere near the fucking club. It was hardly a Galatasaray v Fenerbahce atmosphere out there yesterday.

Those club murdering cunts deserve everything that comes their way and long may it continue.

Takashi Miike 1:10 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
exactly

Hermit Road 1:08 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
He is allowing the players the excuse of fan behaviour to justify their performance to a degree. He also has a go at the players. The two groups he hasnt pointed the finger at are him/his coaching team, and the board.

Robson 1:08 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
I thought it was the board's job to undermine the manager?

Give him a chance ffs!

COOL HAND LUKE 1:02 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?

My guess is he is just repeating what has been said by certain players after the game in the dressing room. We are still at the stage where they are frantically scouting around for 'someone' (anyone) to be responsible for these continuing lazy arsed displays - other than taking ownership themselves, obviously.

I don't doubt it'll get sorted, but there's gonna be some blood and snot flying if the team continues like this. It won't be pretty.

Did anyone notice our perennial 'smiler' Lanzini yesterday..? The man did not look happy, and I didn't see him smile once - for whatever reason, he is not enjoying his game at the moment, and he was almost first down the tunnel at the end, not like him at all. He and Zab also appeared to be taking the piss out of Arnie's ridiculous contortions when he was down with 'aneurism of the thumb' yesterday. Nobes is right, the squad is toxic, and I lay that at Bilic's door... his weakness allowed players to have too much freedom and become too vocal as a result.

It's a long way back from there.

Alex V 1:02 Mon Nov 20
Re: Does Moyes blame the fans for players’ performance?
Absolutely the fans right to express their anger if they choose. Within limits.

But I do agree with Moyes on this, cos I thought the same. 'Sack the board' pretty much from the start of the match. Hardly the most positive of atmospheres for the players to perform in.

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