WHO Poll
Q: 2017/18 The RealWestHamFans March on March 10th
a. I'll be there, it's time for action now enough is enough
52%
  
b. Not for me, I'll see you all at the Stadium
15%
  
c. A bit difficult for me as I'll be on my stream with a cup of rosie
25%
  
d. What march
8%
  



chav_corner 7:53 Sat Nov 25
Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I know mentioned elsewhere but thought this now needed it's own thread.New action group campaigning to get our West Ham back.7600 joined up in 4 days.Find it on facebook titled Real West Ham fans.

Meeting details courtesy of Brentford

I will post up just details of march and relevant WHO info now it is okay

*March starts Stratford Park - West Ham Lane, opposite police station... guests to speak before we set off.

Destination tbc.

WHO wreath would be good, paid for by WHO.

WHO banners & individual banners also would be good, there is a "fighting fund" available for this...Anyone wanting to make banners for the March please contact U.K. football flags there’s a donation for every order for Isla.
Wear colours.

Meet 11am, no booze, no trouble!




*********************************
DONATION LINK
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/rwhfag?utm_id=106&utm_term=eWJ3rp8GV



****************
Were now ready to send the 5 points :

1 Must take up full away ticket allocation

2 : Memorial to be maintained regularly

3: The Hammer and Castle badge to be reconised with immediate effect on match programme and in future in the stadium

4 : The owners to be more proffesional on social media ie remove the sullivan kids from speaking on the clubs behalf :

5 The 15 minute interval must be addressed its impossible to get to the toilets get a drink and be back for the restart a for the second half . They club have 7 days to respond if they fail to deliver a full demo / march will take place .

Now we need 5 action plan for the disabled / elderly / family .
We now need 5 action plans to make our experience improved thanks

----------------

Link to the meeting in the Boleyn

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ls3e1b0HItI

Replies - Newest Posts First (Show In Chronological Order)

Trevor B 4:04 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
brenty in taking things said on here way too seriously shocker! still, that's a common trait in most benders.

13 Brentford Rd 4:02 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
"We, on the other hand, are represented by 13 Brentford Rd........

Nobody is going to be following 'us'....."

B, I do not represent WHO. I offered to go to the meeting as WHO rep at the last minute as no one else on here Inc you put themselves forward.

I don't know who the group are using for legal, finance, PR etc. or if they are actually using any experts or qualified people at all in these areas.
I had a plan formed from suggestions from WHO posted and a few of my own and wife's ideas, didn't get the chance to air it at the meet as it was more about the march and better known reps from groups that have been battling the board for longer or Andy, Micky & Bill got to speak.
I did mention that we all needed to agree on the main issues and appoint a governing commitee from prominent groups but it seems the commitee was already formed and they have their own ideas on what they want to achieve and how they are going about it.(I think/hope) Only this g is it's still not clear.
I was then told I wouldn't be invited back as I put up the contents of the meeting too soon even though I wasn't told not to or that it was private, the impression I got was that I was there to report it back to WHO.

So I did my bit, was prepared to get more involved but I am an outsider. My plan is serious too and would have taken about 2 years and could have worked or put a lot of pressure on them to at least make things better.

Gavros 3:53 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
Yes, totally. Most people who werent a fan would spend 2 minutes on the facebook group bfore concluding they were looking at an EDL page.

Trevor B 3:43 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
Yes, a lot of sense right there. Let's hope they are invited to help.

Propodkin 3:40 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
someone's talking sense...

http://www.kumb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=170186&start=2120#p5177343

PR business here, clients from SME through to household name corporates. We'd probably do the job for free if they asked. Approaching them ourselves is difficult however, because they already have a hierarchy in place and are quite possibly going to be resistant to being told what to do.

But here's what we'd be advising...

1. If we were working with them we'd insist on only talking to 2 people, 3 at most. Doing anything by committee just leads to too many ideas, and things get muddied. I believe that has already happened in this case.

2. Facebook page needs to be locked down to 'Admin Only Posting' until after the March, and a large number of existing posts need to be deleted. There's no nice way to say this; their page is chock full of horrible misogynistic venom, and frankly, stupidity. It's a PR disaster that plays straight into GSB hands.

3. Message to the press and the outside world needs distilling down to 1 core message and a few easily understood supporting reasons.

Personally I believe the core message that works best from a PR perspective:
"The March is a vote of no confidence in the board, and regime change is the ultimate goal".

The Group can retract from that harsh position in the future, perhaps subject to what the board comes back with, but for now it has the drama and finality that the press will love.

Reasons:

a. Catalogue of lies and broken promises - forget all that they've said, look at what they've actually done. The days of us believing their lies are over.

b. We have exactly the same debt level, but it is now owned by them not the banks, and we now pay a higher rate of interest to them than we would to a bank.

c. Club is no longer run as a football club with the goal of success on the pitch, or even with any consideration for the supporters at all. Today WHUFC is purely run as a business with the sole intention of increasing the wealth of the owners.

4. Finally, they need to consider the counter arguments that GSB will provide to the press, and be clear on their own position on those topics. For example, GSB always trot out the “We Saved the Club from Bankruptcy” line.

Truth is West Ham would never ever have gone bust. A London club, with a loyal fanbase, big home crowds even after relegation, a significant history. Not a chance we would have gone bust.

So their status as Saviours is just another in a very long line of hollow lies.

Summary in a nutshell... The message is clear and simple; Confidence completely lost, no more buying their lies, regime change wanted.

The other things related to memorial gardens and the badge are issues that have to be shelved for another day. For now the primary message has to be clear to everyone, from casual fans, paying supporters, RWHFAG members, supporters of other clubs looking in from the outside, and of course through to the gentlemen of the press.

Trevor B 3:38 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
What is considered as failure? If they 'fail' then what happens? Another group pops up in their place, telling everyone they're going to do it better, and then everyone is going to donate again and get behind another group who won't have the same respect and reputation of the current people leading RWHFAG? That won't happen, but I also can't see the likes of Swallow et al giving up. We could well be in for a long ride.

Pub Bigot 3:31 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I understand that mate, but if they fail, that's it?

They're as influential as any West Ham supporter, but if the initial march doesn't work, the pressure needs to be maintained until we get the changes we're asking for.

If this is one and done and nothing changes, everyone will have wasted their time. This cannot be allowed to happen.

Trevor B 3:20 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
PB

RWHFAG was started by Andy Swallow, Bill Gardiner and Micky Morgan. They are three big reasons why the group has so much support from so many other groups.

We, on the other hand, are represented by 13 Brentford Rd........

Nobody is going to be following 'us'......

Fifth Column 3:19 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I'm going on the march. I've got to be honest though I don't give a shit about the badge or what is put up around the stadium in terms of history etc.

Personally, I want retractable seating and a decent team that doesn't struggle every year which is what we were promised.

Everything else is window dressing.

Pub Bigot 3:15 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
The Lawyer is a great shout and if we fill the RWHFAG aren't properly representing the supporters, why can't WHO take matters into their own hands?

RWHFAG have the momentum and support, but if this fails and we continue to campaign, we'd have the same people support us.

In fact, might be an idea for WHOers to meet up as a group as well and if a banner is created, stand behind that.

Darby_ 2:23 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I think the march might be just the beginning of a campaign that could continue for years if G&S don't address people's unhappiness.

For now I think it's enough for people to simply explain why they're unhappy.

Johnson 2:21 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I'll be boycotting the match Illford, but then I've been boycotting it for a year now.

ERNEST - Will keep my beady eye out for you

terranceandphillip2 12:00 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
My tuppence worth. Agree with the poster below that we need to be bringing top level lawyers and accountants into out orbit for when fans reps meet the board. The network of companies around our owners makes any reading of our accounts only partial. As for aims, what do we regard as a big win-the restoration of the club's badge and the removal of London? A firm commitment to get in retractable seating? What is it. Agree on that and make it your main message. I'd think the badge is the easiest win and something with real emotional clout and an easily understood aim, saying 'we want our club back' is as nebulous as Brexiteer aims and look how confusing that has ended up being.

AKA ERNIE 10:55 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
always macca

Ilford Hammer 10:42 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I'm going on the march, but does anyone know if the intention is also to boycott the match?

More than happy to do that and head down the pub by the way.

One McAvennieeeeee 10:23 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
Are you looking forward to seeing me, ERN?

AKA ERNIE 10:16 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
johnson great stuff mate hope to see you

Trevor B 9:15 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
Is he STILL unemployable because of the racism? FMOB.

One McAvennieeeeee 9:14 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
Can someone please just give NEEDYvros a job. Anything will do.

Gavros 2:04 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
I have the readies if you want to do something. let me know.

seeing as RWHFAG have plenty may be aim should be a protest specific one funded from them for the march and a WHO one out of the WHO fund as a permanent flag?

Gavros 2:01 Thu Feb 22
Re: Real West Ham Fans - Updated with notes from Meeting on 10/2
ignoring you bank?

Page 1 - Next




Copyright 2006 WHO.NET | Powered by: