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keepitfluffy 4:50 Sun Dec 24
The transfer window thread
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franksfat&slow&wank 2:19 Sat Jan 20
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We signed a top striker in the summer but don't feed him

AKA ERNIE 12:09 Sat Jan 20
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45 in 127 games
hes better than anyone weve signed this wimdow

Fivetide 11:36 Fri Jan 19
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General for a sec. This Locadia that Brighton has signed. Be lying if I said I knew. Any good?

Robson 11:20 Fri Jan 19
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Trevor B 5:48 Fri Jan 19

It would take a massive turnaround in form for us to be relegated now, and unless we lost all the remaining games this season I really can't see us not continuing with Moyes. Even if there is some doubt over his future, we'd probably still sign his targets if they were available at a reasonable price. Remember we signed Hernandez and Arnautovic, two of our most expensive signings ever, following a pretty poor season when Bilic's future was already in serious doubt.

Alex V 7:59 Fri Jan 19
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Stubbo 5:08 Fri Jan 19

Don't disagree with you - if the right signing comes up then of course you try to take it whenever that is. How often would that signing be available in January? - not often I would guess. And you have more faith in Everton's signings than I do.

Side of Ham 6:47 Fri Jan 19
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Can you imagine if we didn't sign our strategic targets when Hartson & Kitson joined THAT season.

.....and that was A LOT of dosh for Terrance Brown i tell ye!

....and then there was the Icelandics with Lucas Neil in the miracle season escape...but that was ALL Tevez wasn't it.

I also remember Sheffield Utd sitting pretty at one stage when we lost away to them.

Lovejoy 5:52 Fri Jan 19
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Nice change that our board are tight lipped thus far and no Twitter comments.

Will be a surprise when we sign someone.

If we don’t sign someone then of course they’re cunts.

Trevor B 5:48 Fri Jan 19
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Surely it's only good for next season when you 1) know which league you will be playing and 2) know which manager will be managing them?

Westside 5:47 Fri Jan 19
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Buying in January, can be good for the next season. The August transfer window ends in a flurry of activity and all those players transferred have missed pre - season with their new clubs.

Get them in January and you get a third of season with them, then a pre sesaon, before the next season starts.

Trevor B 5:08 Fri Jan 19
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Westside

Considering he's only played an average of 24 league games per seasons since leaving and has been blighted by injury for the past three seasons I reckon they're probably happier with Eriksen!

Stubbo 5:08 Fri Jan 19
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My point is we shouldn't avoid signing our strategic targets in January just because we're not guaranteed our survival in the league.

I agree short term tactical decision making should not be part of our thinking, but we should as a club be identifying the targets we want to improve the squad, and then if they become available we should sign them...irrespective of when that is.

We shouldn't avoid signing strategically identified players because it's January and the relegation places haven't been decided (as they haven't for over half the division).

Over confidence isn't signing Andy Carroll. I'd say that is blind support for the incumbent manager with no thought for the strategic thought for the club.

One thing I think you're right on Alex is that the club should have a vision for the how club plays football, how it's business model operates, and with a view to squad continuity irrespective of manager as time goes by.

But doing all business in the Summer makes no sense...any opportunity that aligns with strategy to strengthen the squad should be taken. To not take advantage of those opportunities is to hand the initiative to those who do take advantage.

Everton are great case in point. They've lacked a striker, and been presented with a value acquisition in Walcott. Did they delay because they're not assured of their survival. Of course not...they back themselves to stay up and the chance to remedy identified issues in the squad presented itself. Whether the players signed themselves are what they need is largely irrelevant to the debate.

Westside 5:03 Fri Jan 19
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You buy the likes of Carroll because you're over-confident that one very expensive signing can transform the club's fortunes, without considering the extreme risk of putting all your eggs in one (brittle) basket

Of course, you can always sell your most expensive egg (say Rio Ferdinand, back in the day), then spunk it all on some dross.

I expect a lot of Spurs fans, would have rather kept their golden egg Bale, than have the players they got for the £75 million odd, Bale went for.

Alex V 4:40 Fri Jan 19
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If you've underestimated the risks of failure, you're probably over-confident in the chance of success. That's the way I see it. This is the mentality of the club in recent years. Not only over-estimating the chances of big signings working out, but over-estimating the quality of what they already have, ie doing next nothing to address the failing defensive qualities of the squad in recent seasons.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 4:30 Fri Jan 19
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Alex V 3:20 Fri Jan 19

'You buy the likes of Carroll because you're over-confident that one very expensive signing can transform the club's fortunes, without considering the extreme risk of putting all your eggs in one (brittle) basket.'

This makes perfect sense. Always provided that 'over-confident' has a different meaning to the generally understood one.

Alex V 4:26 Fri Jan 19
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You mean it would be a risk? But apparently we should be embracing risk :).

Agreed I don't think you can sell all four - that would be overkill and too dangerous.

Eggbert Nobacon 4:26 Fri Jan 19
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Kelly

all the indications I've seen are that while we may listen to offers for all thre only one would be allowed to go

Kelly Smunt 4:00 Fri Jan 19
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Alex V 1:14 Fri Jan 19


The downside of that school of thought is that if we flog (for example) Sakho, Hernandez and Ayew in January without replacements coming in, and then get injuries, suspensions or loss of form for Carroll and Arnie (and Antonio) then we have only unproven youngsters to step in in the second half of an already tense season. For that reason, I'm out.

Willtell 3:36 Fri Jan 19
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You're all suffering from LORTN. Lack of real transfer news...

Alex V 3:20 Fri Jan 19
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Stubbo 3:03 Fri Jan 19

To my mind, being a slave to risk is the result of taking too many. Confidence is often indistinguishable from hubris, and ends up with the sort of bad signings the club has made over recent years. You buy the likes of Carroll because you're over-confident that one very expensive signing can transform the club's fortunes, without considering the extreme risk of putting all your eggs in one (brittle) basket. And given the erroneous thinking that has ruled at the club, they actually thought and probably still believe that the most expensive option is the least (rather than the most) risky.

Kaiser Zoso 3:19 Fri Jan 19
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Please let that be true about Cresswell.

Alex V 3:07 Fri Jan 19
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>>> The more points we get, the less chance we have of signing anyone.

And actually, the more points we get the less we need desperation signings. Let's face it if we win the next two we're probably safe, if we lose them both there will be a major panic buying session on the 31st!!!

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