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hammer205 5:08 Fri Dec 29
Brilliant Spurs Supporting Referee Mike Dean Appointed For Spurs Game
The FA must hate us!!!

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Mike Oxsaw 10:18 Fri Jan 5
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On the video reffing issue, there's now no reason to not have 3, or even 5 referees all watching the game from different angles on monitors in real time, and calling the issues as if they were reffing the real game.

Any stop by the real ref over a contentious decision, the monitoring refs already have their opinion made (decision by a majority vote, if necessary).

master 9:57 Fri Jan 5
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Bobby Madley just gave a high foot foul to Everton. Kicking kouyate in the head??

jack flash 12:50 Fri Jan 5
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In fairness, his refereeing tonight was spot on. He didn't how to the home crowd's ridiculous penalty calls & kept the game flowing

If all our games were as well refereed we'd have nothing to complain about

I thought there was a foul on Lanzini just before Son scored but Moyes reckoned it wasn't & it was right in front of him

Coffee 1:35 Thu Jan 4
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:-)

ironsofcanada 1:34 Thu Jan 4
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Coffee 1:33 Thu Jan 4

Very helpful.

Coffee 1:33 Thu Jan 4
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Rugby's quite speedy, but cricket can take a good couple of minutes to decide LBW (kindly look up LBW).

The rules of cricket are really quite straightforward. They're succinctly explained here: http://p.imgci.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/50600/50633.jpg

neilalex 1:32 Thu Jan 4
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I think in rugby you get more interruption because of the nature of the sport. Push over tries, foot in touch for wingers that kind of thing. I genuinely think that for most football matches it wouldn't be used.

Hermit Road 1:30 Thu Jan 4
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I watched a few games of rugby that I think have been slowed up and ruined by video replays. I don't know whether it was because they were over doing it, but in a sport like rugby or football, the decision needs to be quick or it damages the sport as a spectacle. On the other hand, I think cricket benefits from it because there are natural breaks and the video replay itself adds a certain ampunt of tension and excitement to the process.

I think the Bournemouth 3rd would be relatively simple though because they are able to stop player at the point a ball is played forward, and draw a line across the last defender. They did this on TV proving that he was off.

Far Cough 1:29 Thu Jan 4
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Indeed it was, there's no other reason why he overruled the lino who was in a better position than him

ironsofcanada 1:28 Thu Jan 4
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Coffee 1:24 Thu Jan 4

Maybe true. Which is why there were a lot of questions in my posts?

Even being here 5 years, I am a very bad English resident in that I have not idea how rugby or cricket handle these, to be honest.

RdUeSpSrEeLsLsed 1:27 Thu Jan 4
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What Robert Madley did was purely because of the abuse he received from the fans when he allowed Francis to nearly decapitate Kouyte. He took it personally and made sure he’d cost us a win knowing full well he’ll receive no punishment. It was no error of judgement it was payback for an egomaniac.

neilalex 1:26 Thu Jan 4
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I think video also saves the time that is wasted with players surrounding the ref and so on. I remember similar arguments about 'flow' when it was introduced in rugby, but now it's seen as a vital part of the refereeing process. generally it's not going to be used in most games because most don't have particularly contentious decisions.

I also think it would enhance the authority of the referee simply by removing the resentment currently felt when players feel a game changing decision has incorrectly gone against them.

Coffee 1:24 Thu Jan 4
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For that incident, even if the Bournemouth player had been onside, it may have taken a while to determine if it was handball. You'd end up with the kind of time taken in cricket reviews?

ironsofcanada 1:20 Thu Jan 4
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Coffee 1:16 Thu Jan 4

Well he would have either had to admit he was wrong or double down with people knowing he saw he was wrong.

Either without or without the referee doing the viewing, it requires a stashing of ego. Which I can't imagine it would go over well with them.

Coffee 1:16 Thu Jan 4
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ioc

Agree that the ref's authority is important, but how would that have worked with that idiot Maddley the other day?

ironsofcanada 1:14 Thu Jan 4
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On video

One of the things that I love about football is the generally flow. But you could introduce video stuff only in game when things are significantly stopped, like a goal or a penalty.

You could also skip the step the NFL does, where it has to be referee who reviews it, if you wanted to keep it going faster.

The reasoning for that is that it maintains the authority of the ref, I think. Whether that is helpful, I don't know but with today's technology, you can the last 5-10 seconds being cued up constantly, and the guy in the booth could be done in less minute. Is that too long?

The practical question then becomes must you have a standard number of cameras so every game is fair and at what level to do start making that a rule.

neilalex 12:50 Thu Jan 4
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It just needs video for certain decisions. I can't see any problem with it, it does nothing but good in rugby as far as I can see. Goal/not goal, (ie offside and the like), penalty/not penalty, sending off/not sending off, and even these could be limited to the marginal calls.

Ridiculous not to have it, and it just produces the sort of dickheads we're getting as referees. The standard is absolutely appalling at the moment.

Eddie B 12:30 Thu Jan 4
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Madeley didn't try and justify his decision. He just said he didn't NEED to take the lino's advice.

Sven Roeder 11:08 Wed Jan 3
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Referees particularly never seem to admit they were wrong
Madley still hasn’t given a plausible explanation and just spoke a load of gibberish to Moyes.
I think fans would appreciate gestures like the lino admitting an error as painful as it is to take at the time.

Fifth Column 11:04 Wed Jan 3
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Did you see the lino in the match apologised for not realising it was offside, to the Swansea manager after the match.

Yet Madley tried to justify his decision to Moyes. The ####

Sven Roeder 11:00 Wed Jan 3
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Llorente was comfortably offside for Spurs first but he didn’t appear to want to get involved in THAT decision

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