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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Nutsin 4:46 Tue Feb 19
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If you two believe there is no media bias against Trump and his supporters by main stream media then you are thicker than I thought.
To read your pathetic attempts to try and pin this on anything but Trump hate by all involved is laughable.

Fuck knows why I’m asking but I’ll give it a shot anyway.

Cap who do you think is Lying here McCabe or Rosenstein?

Westham67 4:21 Tue Feb 19
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*Generate money through advertising

Capitol Man 3:21 Tue Feb 19
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In media terms the issue at the center of the mistakes is that things happen in real time. Even the dailies of Fleet Street used to get a day to pull thing together - now it happens on the spot.

Social media also acts as a magnifying glass and I’m no fan of the wildfire outrage on twitter or Facebook.

That’s why you do well to look at major outlets that have a reputation, and who will correct themselves.

Given how information now flows they do a remarkable job of getting things right. What shouldn’t happen is the use of genuine mistakes as an excuse for pushing clear lies.

Sure you get to point out what is wrong, but it’s no basis to be forming an entire political belief system around. It’s almost always pedaled by those looking for excuses for their own extreme views, be they on the hard right or the hard left.

Westham67 2:44 Tue Feb 19
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Its the Media in general they need to generate money thorough advising mainly now with online news .I see many headlines like Bombshell and for football Colossus and then you read it and nothing of the sort

Its bad journalism in many case I agree but its across the board. Hannity admits to being more an opinion man than a journalists

If you look at stone cold fact for the Mueller investigation without red or blue tinted glasses on

Nothing moved with the GOP lead house and senate for 2 years

Too long to post all take no no notice of the content about the people just the list of those indicted and guilty pleas so far

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

ironsofcanada 11:44 Mon Feb 18
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Capitol Man 11:35 Mon Feb 18

I honest can't believe you brought up objective truth. You will deflect and try to ignore every time an objective truth you don't like or you have been proved wrong on. is brought up.

You are doing it again at the end of your post.

On the first part, of course. A grandmother has never lied?

You take evidence into account, the wounds she received etc. In a lot of case, evidence proves a crime has taken place almost immediately before it reaches the media. Not so with the Smollett case.

Capitol Man 11:41 Mon Feb 18
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http://time.com/5532054/roger-stone-judge-crosshairs/

Lock him up! Threatening judge.

Capitol Man 11:39 Mon Feb 18
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And the examples you give go to just how transparent you are. You are a bias in search of examples.

Capitol Man 11:36 Mon Feb 18
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Home by....

Capitol Man 11:35 Mon Feb 18
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So snowflake. Let’s assume your, or someone here’s grandmother gets, god-forbid, beaten up in their own homeboy a burglar. Apparently, according to you, it now must be reported that granny claims she was burgled and beaten up - otherwise it’s biased media.

Back on your obsession with catholic boys again though. Excitement growing?

ironsofcanada 11:33 Mon Feb 18
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The last to Capitol Man again.

ironsofcanada 11:32 Mon Feb 18
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Of course there is objective truth, to get to it you have to dig sometimes and that takes a bit.

For instance we know objectively that Phillips approached the kids at the Lincoln Memorial. We didn't know that until a few days later because of the press. But eventually we all saw it on video.

You are the one trying obfuscate that objective truth by not being willing to discuss the actions of the adults in the situation.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:27 Mon Feb 18
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G Washington even.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:27 Mon Feb 18
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Twas LWashington

www.history-for-kids.com/george-washington.html
The story of George Washington and the Cherry Tree, below, tells of the time the young ... He took the little hatchet out into ... I killed the tree, I cannot tell a lie.”

ironsofcanada 11:24 Mon Feb 18
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Capitol Man 11:16 Mon Feb 18

You said "to push your bullshit agenda we have to act as though it never happened."

I actually said:

"There were some local Chicago people who did proper journalistic work and reported it as (paraphrasing) "Jessie Smollett said was he attacked by people yelling welcome to MAGA country.""

Nothing about acting like it did not happen.

That is a classic straw man unless which you should know, unless you don't know what the term means.

Capitol Man 11:16 Mon Feb 18
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ironsofcanada 10:36 Mon Feb 18
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Ah Snowflake. Pointing out the things you say are utter crap is no strawman. Your total lack of self-awareness continues to be funny though.

Talking of Mary and his pushing of Russian propaganda. One of the key methods used by Putin is to push the idea that there is no objective truth. That you can’t believe anything you read.

You’re pretty on message for that aren’t you snowflake.

Westham67 11:15 Mon Feb 18
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Using executive orders is not comparable to overriding a vote in congress by declaring a national emergency in fact it is unprecedented

Far Cough 11:14 Mon Feb 18
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Nope, it was Lincoln

ironsofcanada 11:14 Mon Feb 18
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Westham67 11:08 Mon Feb 18

If I had kids, I would hope I would be the primary role model that they looked up to. I was so with me and my dad.

Why would I ask them to have their role model be a politician and from another country at that.

Overall, 67. I can disagree or agree with Trump on various things and still care very much about other things. Trump will be gone in 6 years at most, the press will still be around.

Hammer and Pickle 11:13 Mon Feb 18
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The question is moot as you shoot blanks, don'tcha Rainbow.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:11 Mon Feb 18
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WH67

No. But not would I put up Obama, Bush Jnr or Clinton.

Roosevelt lied about Pearl Harbour didn't he? Puts Trump in the shade.

FC

I think that was Washington, wasn't it. And he did.

ironsofcanada 11:10 Mon Feb 18
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 11:06 Mon Feb 18

I know. I just don't like the use of executive power to deal with it.

But, as I said it is complicated and there is hypocrisy on both side. Obama used emergency executive orders on immigration and Trump called him on it.

People completely freaking about it need to realise that there are 13 "emergencies" currently in effect.

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