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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Capitol Man 2:57 Thu Jan 24
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
You served in the military Canada? Or you not in any position to judge. The more you write the bigger arsehole you prove yourself to be.

Entertainingly buzzfeed seems to have gotten the plans for trump Tower Moscow.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/azeenghorayshi/here-are-the-trump-moscow-plans

ironsofcanada 7:52 Wed Jan 23
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Dwight Van Mann 7:35 Wed Jan 23

You would prefer the last name of one of my Scout leaders - Standing-on-the-Road.

But another thought on the Phillips, one of my friends in elementary school's dad was a Native Vietnam vet. This guy has been disrespecting the service of actual people and gaining recognition for it for years.

Dwight Van Mann 7:35 Wed Jan 23
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Nathan Phillips...NATHAN FUCKING PHILLIPS! What sort of native Indian name is that? Blokes a fraud. Deport him to Mexico.

ironsofcanada 7:29 Wed Jan 23
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One more from the same site but over ten years ago

https://newsmaven.io/indiancountrytoday/archive/american-indian-veterans-honored-annually-at-arlington-national-cemetery-tMOxOLqrJU6Ux9hZvXAzYQ/

American Indian veterans honored annually at Arlington National Cemetery

"Phillips also described coming back to the U.S. as a veteran of the Vietnam era. “People called me a baby killer and a hippie girl spit on me.”"

...

"Note: This article has been adjusted from it's original version to show that Nathan Phillips was a Vietnam-era veteran and that he was spit on while in uniform as opposed to when he was returning from combat."

The writer (and editor) made the change when called out on Twitter. You can see a screenshot of the original in the comments.

ironsofcanada 7:05 Wed Jan 23
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mashed in maryland 6:50 Wed Jan 23

He does at least make his story pretty much consistent in the two 2015 videos. Unlike the multiple versions of the Lincoln Memorial encounter he has told the press.

mashed in maryland 6:50 Wed Jan 23
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There's also footage from him in 2015 saying the words "as a Vietnam veteran"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hlNQMPTJuFo&feature=youtu.be#menu

This is related to this story... from googling it doesn't seem like anything ever came of it

http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/native-american-claims-racial-harassment-by-emu-students-dressed-as-indians

Keeping in mind that much of what he's said about the incident a few days ago has been shown to be completely made up, and the fact he's been fibbing about 'Nam, that's probably not surprising.

Maybe someone prone to telling such easily disproved (and illegal) whoppers isn't someone who's word the press should have trusted before running this story and potentially putting kids in danger?

ironsofcanada 6:28 Wed Jan 23
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Gavros 6:05 Wed Jan 23

Seems like a bot might have been involved.

Kaiser Zoso 6:27 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
He was a better quality stooge than that desperate lying scarecrow who reckoned she’d been raped.

ironsofcanada 6:07 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Mashed (and Capitol if will have a discussion on this guy)

Something I found linked through Indian Country Today, strangely enough.

Nathan Phillips quoted by Vogue in April

https://www.vogue.com/projects/13542941/return-to-standing-rock/

“I have a relative here who said he’d lead the way and scout ahead for us,” Phillips continued, his voice breaking. “You know, I’m from Vietnam times. I’m what they call a recon ranger. That was my role. So I thank you for taking that point position for me.”

His military role was a rifleman for two days and then a refrigeration mechanic for the rest of his service in the States.

(Also we have seen him lie, when his voice was breaking before)

Gavros 6:05 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This was orchestrated by the RUSSIANS

Nutsin 5:29 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Why aren’t we talking about the “black Israelites” that’s the mob of anti white, anti Semitic adults that were hurling racial abuse at the white kids because they were wearing MAGA hats.

Adults hurling abuse at kids, what a bunch of lowlife cowards.

I know how most people on here would react if some man got in their grill while banging a drum, they’d knock the cunt spark out and you know it. The only reason he got away with it was because he did it to a kid and the left have jumped the gun again on a fake news story and are made to look like a bunch of dopey cunts as usual.
Now the Mongs on here are so embarrassed of looking stupid again they are now trying to justify the retarded initial reaction to another fake news story. How fucking stupid can these cunts get?

Willtell 10:37 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
You're now experiencing why I named him Capitol Mong months ago...

ironsofcanada 9:17 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Capitol Man 3:04 Wed Jan 23

So Capitol

Why have you not address the personal responsibility (to use your last buzz phrase) of the adults involved?
- Nathan Phillips
- The Black Hebrew Isrealites
- the media (you actual have addressed this, to be fair.
You made excuses for them straight off.

Why to do you only focus on the boys, who's behavior is considered "least egregious"?

Is it because it "reinforces your prejudices?"

Now to your words -

"A man in his 60s singing and playing a drum and a group of dozens of teenager"

This is the social media moment: with the camera facing one way with its narrow field of view (no metaphor there at all) that is what the world saw.

Now, almost the whole world has moved beyond the viral edit and sees the bigger, more real picture. It considers more of what really happened. Why have you regressed back to the social media moment? Is there no argument you think you can win outside it?

Have some integrity and discuss all the players. We have given you our opinion on the boys, backed up by video facts. Please let's do the same for the adults involved.

ironsofcanada 9:00 Wed Jan 23
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A decent (not perfect) op-ed from the New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/21/opinion/covington-march-for-life.html

"The man, Nathan Phillips, told two different versions of what happened." [More than that actually]

....

it’s important to remember that these days the social media tail wags the mainstream media dog. If you want your story to be well placed and if you want to be professionally rewarded, you have to generate page views — you have to incite social media. The way to do that is to reinforce the prejudices of your readers.

....

Everybody involved in the incident was operating in an emotional and moral context that has been set by the viciousness of the Black Hebrew Israelites. Of the major players, the boys’ behavior is probably the least egregious.

Hammer and Pickle 8:24 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
HAT-TRICK

(and he don't care)

mashed in maryland 8:11 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
67

"What is wrong is kids of that age wearing MAGA hats most of them not even old enough to vote"

So you finally admit it. THAT is your problem with them. Doesn't matter what they'd done really, you just consider them the enemy for daring to support the sitting president.

"Their actions are also reflecting Trumps mocking, disparaging , name calling behavior making it the norm for the young and impressionable"

If you could ever be bothered watching the videos of what actually happened, you'd find most of the mocking and name calling is directed against them.

Also please address the fact that Nathan Phillips lied about his Vietnam service. Thankyou.

mashed in maryland 8:04 Wed Jan 23
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So to summarise...

- Black Israelites hurling abuse at a group of kids
- Group of activists yelling "America will burn" and "go back to Europe"
- Man who lies about being a Vietnam veteran squaring up to people trying to start a row
- Group of high school students responding to all the above by singing dancing and smiling.

Why is everyone making out like the last group are the main wrongdoers here?

This is of course ignoring the twitter mob who've been doxxing and issuing death threats against them over fuck all.

mashed in maryland 7:59 Wed Jan 23
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"Perhaps in the British version he could have been singing god save he queen.

This site would have gone apoplectic. "

I've already said it could have been a British army veteran and a group of Salafi Muslims and my take would be the same.

And its already been established he wasn't just singing and playing a drum, he was getting in their faces and trying to instigate a confrontation. Remarkably he didn't actually get one, despite the borderline-racial abuse being hurled at the group from his entourage.

Again, its come to something when singing dancing and smiling in the face of provocation is seen as crossing the line.

Capitol Man 3:04 Wed Jan 23
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ironsofcanada 2:55 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released

No you didn’t. Think about what you are saying. A man in his 60s singing and playing a drum and a group of dozens of teenagers.

Perhaps in the British version he could have been singing god save he queen.

This site would have gone apoplectic.

You seem to lose site of the basic principles in some desperate desire to ignore the stuff you see with your own eyes but that doesn’t fit with your views.

You can do it. Say they were way way out of line. .

ironsofcanada 2:55 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Have a good night

ironsofcanada 2:53 Wed Jan 23
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Capitol Man 2:47 Wed Jan 23

I gave the correct context to your analogy. - Nothing more.


If we do want to talk about excuses, you were there front and centre trying make them for the journalists, who unlike the boys were adults working in their professional capacity.

Where is your personal responsibility now?

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