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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:55 Tue Nov 13
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Sadly for you WH67, he has now admitted you were entirely wrong.

Then he's posted a load of irrelevant stuff.

Westham67 12:50 Tue Nov 13
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threesixty 8:08 Mon Nov 12

Texas Iron 9:57 Mon Nov 12
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agree on most people...
3million plus voted against Trumpeter...don't forget...

Nutsin 9:46 Mon Nov 12
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Tex,
When I say mob rule, I'm talking about the Kavanaugh debacle..... No solid evidence, no respect for law and due process, just a bunch of angry congress men and women from the Dem party demanding nonsense.
Stirring up the idiots on the left in the process.

Enciting the public to go after public officials on the GOP while they are out and about eating dinner and going about their personal biz, think of Maxine Walters for example.

Normal people have a problem with this. This is after all a country of laws and people want to keep it that way.

Texas Iron 9:35 Mon Nov 12
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Nutsin...
There is no Mob Rule...

One more Trumpeter scare tactic...

Unruly folks on all sides...more on some...

Texas Iron 9:34 Mon Nov 12
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Nutsin...
There is no Mob Rule...

One more Trumpeter scare tactic...

Unruly folks on all sides...more on some...

Nutsin 9:31 Mon Nov 12
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Zero,

I'm not saying Bush is void of any blame here. There's plenty of blame to go around for both parties.

To lay the blame solely at Bush is wrong though.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:23 Mon Nov 12
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Nutsin 8:52 Mon Nov 12

'If you want to blame anyone for the market collapse and the collapse of Lehman you might want to start with, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan and Bill Clinton.'

This is basically true. I alluded to it in my earlier post. However, as I also said, the crash happened on Bush's watch, and seven years into his watch at that - he has to take primary responsibility. Just as Labour do in the UK.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:19 Mon Nov 12
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threesixty 8:08 Mon Nov 12

'Bush signed it off and passed the bailout of law and then promptly left'

Thank you for accepting that Bush implemented the bail out.

The rest of your post is drivel, most of it entirely irrelevant drivel at that. I do admire your Googling and C&P skills, though.

Nutsin 9:16 Mon Nov 12
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Tex,
You might want to get your own house in order first.

Start by sorting out the Dem party and mob rule shall we.

Texas Iron 9:08 Mon Nov 12
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Nutsin...
Agreed...

Now let's sort out Trumpeter...
Muzzling and Handcuffing so no more idiotic statements ...
Ombrophobia or Pluviophobia...
🤡🤡🤡🤡

Nutsin 8:52 Mon Nov 12
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
The De-Regulation of Wall St was initiated by Larry Summers and Alan Greenspan when Bill Clinton was in office.......

Laissez-faire, This is what festered the corporate greed and ultimate Criminal activity in CDO's that brought about the market collapse.

Larry Summers was also instrumental in ending Glass Steagal, a 1933 law that kept Investment and Commercial banks seperate. In 199 Bill Clinton announced Glass Steagall was dead.

This brought about too big to fail and all that goes with it.

If you want to blame anyone for the market collapse and the collapse of Lehman you might want to start with, Larry Summers, Alan Greenspan and Bill Clinton.

Gavros 8:45 Mon Nov 12
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Talk to the hand, old man.

Texas Iron 8:44 Mon Nov 12
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Gavros...
Haha...
Also included low income Caucasians...
The new Poor as they are called...
Mostly now part of Trumpeter Base...

😂😂😂😂

Gavros 8:40 Mon Nov 12
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Whatevs.

Texas Iron 8:32 Mon Nov 12
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Gavros...

...minorities ...

...not just black people...

Gavros 8:28 Mon Nov 12
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
Because people are stupid enough to pay them.

Texas Iron 8:19 Mon Nov 12
Re: Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
BTW...
How do Banks etc get away with 24% APR interest on credit cards...???
scandalous...

Texas Iron 8:15 Mon Nov 12
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thresixty...
Great post...all true...
😁😁😁😁

threesixty 8:08 Mon Nov 12
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Surface

Bush signed it off and passed the bailout of law and then promptly left.
It was Obama who had to deal with the ramifications and implementation of the bailout in reality.
A bit like saying Cameron is responsible for how Brexit turns out, well not really if he runs off the day after its announced!

Anyway, just to remind you of your original question

""How did Obama 'stabilise the 2008 crash' and in what way did his policies to effect such stabilisation differ from those already put in place by the FRB under Bush?""


https://www.ft.com/content/b5b764cc-d657-11e6-944b-e7eb37a6aa8e

The Obama administration implemented a number of important fiscal measures, notably the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. It also provided strong moral support for the Fed (including the reappointment of Ben Bernanke, who had been President Bush’s nominee). The administration also restored the financial sector faster than expected and carried out a highly successful rescue of the car industry.

In all, given the starting point, the performance of the economy has been remarkable. The unemployment rate has consistently fallen faster than expected. US business has also added 15.6m jobs since private-sector job growth turned positive in 2010. Real wage growth has been faster in the present cycle than in any since the early 1970s. In the third quarter of 2016, the economy was 11.5 per cent bigger than at its pre-crisis peak and real gross domestic product per head was 4 per cent above the pre-crisis peak, while that of the eurozone was still below it. Household net worth has also reached 50 per cent above its 2008 level.
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And yes it would seem obvious to increase scrutiny on the investment banking lot, but it also wasn't something everyone agreed with. Also republicans didnt like his economic policy either (even though it was under 8yrs of Bush, a republican that the mess happened).

"Meanwhile, Republicans decried the fiscal stimulus, complaining about the huge fiscal deficits caused by the crisis. Yet it was as absurd to complain about deficits then as it is to slash taxes now, when the economy seems close to full employment. Some Republicans claimed Fed policies risked hyperinflation. Most opposed the re-regulation of the financial sector and savaged the bailout of the car industry. Yet President-elect Donald Trump might not be in a position to bully automakers today if they had not been rescued back then."

But more importantly his policies post bailout were sound (and rejected by Republicans) and as the FT say "given the starting point his performance of the economy has been remarkable".


I suppose you'll get all pedantic again as you normally do, claim I'm stupid, not actually address the original points, build straw men all over the place and pat yourself on the back! In your own mind having won another argument and wondering why Whitehall isnt on the phone asking for your advice!

Haha... Joker!

In answer to your original question, "the policies of Obama and Bush differed ALOT!", they had to. One was in a huge surplus when he came into the office, the other fighting financial meltdown.

But you can believe what you want, You always do!

Gavros 7:25 Mon Nov 12
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It was clinton that pushed through legislation to get sub prime started, originally meant to get more black people owning their own homes.

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