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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Capitol Man 7:41 Mon Jun 18
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Willtell 6:22 Mon Jun 18
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The Gammon Jellyfish speaks.

Willtell 6:22 Mon Jun 18
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Mr Anon 5:03
I'm not a Trump supporter but I do give credit where due.

He's doing a real good job it seems to me from afar. That may make it seem that I am supporting him but I don't like him. He's an arrogant liar but as he's doing well for America better the devil you know I say.

I'm sure his popularity is going up faster than scandals can be thrown at him and most of those fade and die like WH really...

Willtell 6:18 Mon Jun 18
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Nutsin - speaking of Merkel...
Merkel gets two-week deadline for talks with other European nations

German Chancellor and leader of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) Angela Merkel with other leaders of CDU prior to a party leadership meeting at the party headquarters in Berlin on June 18, 2018.

Chancellor Angela Merkel's Bavarian allies on Monday put on hold moves to turn back some migrants unilaterally at Germany's border, giving Merkel two weeks to find agreements with other European governments, news agency dpa reported.

Over the past week, a conflict between Interior Minister Horst Seehofer and Merkel over migrant policy has escalated into a threat to her government.

More at -
http://www.france24.com/en/20180618-germany-merkel-gets-two-week-deadline-talks-with-other-european-nations-must-report-july-1

Mr Anon 5:03 Mon Jun 18
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"
These Liberals make you laugh.
They are all up in arms over the USA’s no tolerance border policy, yet seem to have no problem with the EU’s open border policy."

I know you Trump supporters struggle to follow the most basic of narratives but these two viewpoints are consistent with each other. Perhaps you and Willtell should work together next time

, 5:02 Mon Jun 18
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Nutsin why are you talking to Willtell about Continental Europe because you are certainly not talking about the situation that prevails in the UK as regards borders etc?

Nutsin 4:49 Mon Jun 18
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Willtell

These Liberals make you laugh.
They are all up in arms over the USA’s no tolerance border policy, yet seem to have no problem with the EU’s open border policy.

Secure borders mean Kids get separated from their parents temporarily, Open borders means kids get Groomed and Raped.
You’d think they’d be more upset with Merkel than Trump.

The Irony being Trumps Wall would stop the kiddie traffickers and Drugs pouring into the country and illegal immigration, not completely of course but significantly.
The liberals don’t want this though cos even though it is a lawful effective way to create a new immigration policy protecting both US Citizens and legal immigrants the left wing Liberals know this would be a major win for the country and Trump and they are shit scared that they won’t have anything to run on in future elections.

BRANDED 11:25 Mon Jun 18
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Back in the days before the 1989 Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement, Ottawa routinely granted domestic drug companies the right to manufacture U.S. drugs — a practice that ended when the FTA and NAFTA were signed.
IP wars will be the end of Tarif wars.

Willtell 10:02 Mon Jun 18
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Absolute nonsense Comma. What is wrong about that post. and why Muslim rape gets ignored by officials?

And as for my comments made about a man that was sent to prison and later found innocent, I'd say I was spot on with what I said as events subsequently proved.

The real problem is idiots like you that read sensational stories and nod their heads in virtue signalling approval. It's the same process that gets anyone questioning immigration called a racist proving my point once again.

You infer I'm a "creep" and a rapist on WHO to avoid losing an argument and defend real rapists. Well done you prick!

, 9:39 Mon Jun 18
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You are, unquestionably, the gift that keeps giving. Rather than sit back and let the rest of us contemplate whether or not you are the most complete idiot of a poster on here in you come on a Monday morning and put up something that removes all possible doubt.

Oh and in the case of such as rape and the condoning of it you in particular need to tread carefully considering posts of yours, on that subject, from the past. You came across as quite creepy especially over the question of consent and the female being drunk.

Willtell 8:38 Mon Jun 18
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, 12:43 Mon Jun 18
"Whatever makes you think that being left of centre means that you condone grooming and rape [ of any sort ]?"

Probably because the biggest fear of the 'left of centre' is being accused of racism!

Isn't that why it has traditionally been ignored by officials that find it easier to 'sweep it under the carpet' than get accused of racism by pursing it?

Nutsin 4:27 Mon Jun 18
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Cap Man

Thank you, that means a lot coming from you.

Capitol Man 1:13 Mon Jun 18
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Nutsin 12:25 Mon Jun 18
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Your view on this is a great measure of you as a man.

You didn’t do well. Not well at all.

Westham67 12:54 Mon Jun 18
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, 12:43 Mon Jun 18

Comma. Maybe I used the wrong words to express my disgust for Muslim rape gangs

Westham67 12:50 Mon Jun 18
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Nutsin

This from ABC news realtively neutral and if you read in depth these are thef acts

Seperating Children from their parents is not a law in itself its a practice within the law which Trump is using

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/ap-fact-check-trump-assails-dems-migrant-policy-55938909

President Donald Trump won't take responsibility for the consequences of an immigration policy that is separating children from parents who are arrested for illegally crossing the U.S.-Mexico border. He persists in blaming a "Democrat" law for driving families apart, though no such law exists.

In remarks to reporters and in an interview with Fox News, he held firm to a contention he's made, falsely and for weeks, holding Democrats responsible for splitting up migrant families.

TRUMP on Friday:

"The Democrats forced that law upon our nation. I hate it. I hate to see separation of parents and children."

"I hate the children being taken away. The Democrats have to change their law. That's their law."

"That's the Democrats' law. We can change it tonight. We can change it right now."

"That's a Democrat bill. That's Democrats wanting to do that and they could solve it very easily by getting together."

"That's the law and that's what the Democrats gave us and we're willing to change it today if they want to get in and negotiate but they just don't want to negotiate."

THE FACTS:

Repeating the assertion does not make it true. The Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy is responsible for spurring family separations. No law mandates it.

"Zero tolerance" means that when a family is caught sneaking into the U.S., the parents now are routinely referred for criminal prosecution, even if they have few or no previous offenses. That typically means detention for the adults, pending their trial. Under U.S. protocol, if parents are jailed, their children are separated from them because the children aren't charged with a crime.

Until the policy was announced in the spring, such families were usually referred for civil deportation proceedings, not requiring separation.

The zero tolerance policy was announced April 6, and the policy was put into action in May. From April 19 to May 31, 1,995 children were separated from 1,940 adults, according to Homeland Security statistics obtained by The Associated Press. The figures are for people who tried to enter the U.S. between official border crossings.

Trump's repeated, but nonspecific references to a Democratic law appear to involve one enacted in 2008. It passed unanimously in Congress and was signed by Republican President George W. Bush. It was focused on freeing and otherwise helping children who come to the border without a parent or guardian. It does not call for family separation.

Why not just fix the problem with new legislation? Trump stated, inaccurately, that "the Democrats have control." Republicans control both houses of Congress. He meant that his party does not have a large enough majority to prevail without Democratic support.

Democrats, like many Republicans, abhor the family separations. They've objected fiercely to the zero tolerance policy that his administration instituted.

Trump's supporters in Congress have blamed the separations on court decisions, but that's also an evasion.

Courts have established the right of migrant children to be released from custody. They do not establish that right for parents, so the discrepancy can be used to keep adults behind bars while their children are not.

But the rise in split families comes from the administration practice to maximize criminal prosecutions and the manner in which authorities are carrying that out.

In 1997, the settlement of a class-action lawsuit set policies for the treatment and release of unaccompanied children who are caught at the border. The Flores settlement, named for a teenage girl who brought the case in the 1980s, requires the government to release children from custody and to their parents, adult relatives or other caretakers, in order of preference. If those options are exhausted, authorities must find the "least restrictive" setting for the child who arrived without parents. The administration wants Congress to pass legislation overturning the settlement.

In 2015, a federal judge in Los Angeles expanded the terms of the settlement, ruling that it applies to children who are caught with their parents as well as to those who come to the U.S. alone. Other recent rulings, upheld on appeal, affirm the children's rights to a bond hearing and require better conditions at the Border Patrol's short-term holding facilities.

In 2016, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that child migrants who came to the border with parents and were held in custody must be released. The decision did not state parents must be released. Neither, though, did it require parents to be kept in detention, apart from their children.

, 12:43 Mon Jun 18
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Whatever makes you think that being left of centre means that you condone grooming and rape [ of any sort ]?

Westham67 12:41 Mon Jun 18
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Nutsin

Yes I am concerned about Muslim rape gangs, this lefty swings to the right on this issue

I doubt MS13 would bring their kids with them to cross the border into the US, I would say they have more sophisticated channels

MS 13 evolved in El Salvador due to the mess the US created backing a Military Junta

Nutsin 12:38 Mon Jun 18
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According to Democrat Texas Rep Henry Cuellar, The Children migrant crisis has been an issue for years and was kept quiet by the Obama admin.

In 2013 the HHS office of refugee resettlement held over 25000 kids separated from their parents in over 80 separate shelters.

This year there’s about 10,000.

Nutsin 12:25 Mon Jun 18
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Me Tumble

I agree, horrible separating kids from their parents...

Certainly not good for America. Hopefully the Democrats will agree with the Republicans and make the necessary change in Congress. Time to stop politicking and get shit sorted.

Texas Iron 12:06 Mon Jun 18
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Nuts...
How will OrangeTan Reform solve this problem...
It can be sorted very easily by quick reversal of Separation Policy enacted by Sick Sessions...

Texas Iron 12:03 Mon Jun 18
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67...
OrangeTan lying as usual...and using kids to play politics...blaming Dems...
Sessions defined and implemented the separation POLICY...
It's not in the Law...
Vunts

Mr Tumble 11:54 Sun Jun 17
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Nothing to do with politics nor who started it. It is an abuse of some very basic human rights and appalling behaviour to separate children. Again before you start going on about who and when I don't give a flying fuck about any of that and the US has every right to protect it's border just don't treat children like criminals. That is just not acceptable and isn't MAGA. The President has all the power to stop this and he should show some compassion even if others haven't. Just makes US look like fucking cunts imho.

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