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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Nutsin 1:12 Fri Jul 19
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Cap Mong,

No hypocrisy here, I already conceded on this thread that Omar has the right to say what she likes as an individual and as a congresswoman. I also said that if she is gonna spew hatred and anti semitism she in turn has the right to be criticized. She can’t spout her bollox and expect no backlash, quite simple really.

If her and the other 3 slags don’t like the reaction to their nonsense then too bad, you can’t have it both ways...

That is my position Mong, no hypocrisy here you dipshit!

Hermit Road 1:01 Fri Jul 19
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http://www.startribune.com/new-documents-revisit-questions-about-rep-ilhan-omar-s-marriage/511681362/

Omar engaged in a sham marriage for immigration purposes, most probably it was with her brother. The recent article above is from a left of centre newspaper in Minnesota. Unsurprisingly, when Snopes did their exhaustive fact check, they neglected to look at most of the facts and just took her at her word. She will get nicked for this, hopefully soon.

Capitol Man 12:18 Fri Jul 19
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Nutsin 11:15 Thu Jul 18
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There is goes. In a NoNuts-shell.

White immigrant can rip into Clinton and Obama all he wants

Black immigrant elected official can't express opinion against trump without being told to go home.

And he's unable to spot the hypocrisy.

Capitol Man 11:59 Thu Jul 18
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ChillTheKeel 11:38 Thu Jul 18
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That's what those hated centrists are getting at.

The majority of yanks who get their insurance through their employer, something like 270 million people, would hate a move to the NHS.

The benefit of the NHS comes when times are hard. If you are poor or lose your job. Most yanks don't experience that. Certainly no aligned in losing all healthcare while being out of a job.

Despite a sweeping victory in 2008 the modest reforms of Obamacare barely got through and led to devastating losses in 2010, which stopped basically any more progress on anything for the following six years,

So you can want some sort of ideological purity and end up helping people like Trump and Johnson into office, or you can be realistic and actually get some progress on the important stuff.

ChillTheKeel 11:49 Thu Jul 18
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Hard to tell Nuts, given the way you squirt your muck over the middle classes.

Capitol Man 11:47 Thu Jul 18
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That's where the irrationality comes to bear.

The Trump/Obama comparison. The Trump economy is no better than that under Obama, in terms of growth, and in terms of job creation. In fact, Obama's is slightly better. Most of the things Trump and his supporters cite is just a continuation of the trends seen as the US came out of the Obama term, such as black unemployment levels.

Just look at the data. It's not even difficult to see.

In terms of foreign policy, I think it's a legitimate concern that Obama was seen as too weak - though he was more about long-term strategy than short term bluster.

Trumpism seems to be more about random policies that he thinks will help him politically. He could also be storing up long term issues with his undermining of the structures that put america on top in the WW2 era.

We have the undermining of NATO, and his attacks on allies.
You have the fawning over Kim, with zero real progress.
You have the ending of the Iran nuclear deal, with apparently little idea of what will replace it.
You have what was claimed as weakness by Obama in Syria, compared with Trump handing the region to Russia.

Trump has been fairly fortunate on many fronts. He's been confronted by few issues that haven't been of his own making.

Nutsin 11:41 Thu Jul 18
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Chill the div

You really are a clueless cunt divvy!

Anyone with half a brain knew I was being facetious with the yuppie comment, you must know that. You can’t be that stupid can you?

ChillTheKeel 11:38 Thu Jul 18
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Because they're idiots. But then they think our NHS is 'communism'

charleyfarley 11:33 Thu Jul 18
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Bit difficult to understand why Republicans are calling the squad Communists, whilst Trumpy is getting in to bed with Putin & Kim Jong Un.

ChillTheKeel 11:30 Thu Jul 18
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Nutsin 11:15

A middle class rebirth? You cunt. But then this is the same tit who praised Yuppies.

Hammer and Pickle 11:28 Thu Jul 18
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What I find funny about you Trumpista nutjobs is you completely fail to understand the basics of US foreign policy dynamics.

Obama had to contend with a GOP majority in Congress throughout most of his presidency, so could never actually properly lead the response to the Arab Spring, especially where proper, joined-up engagement was needed in Libya and Syria. This, together with the latent public reaction to the Iraq debacle, created a power vacuum in which Putin prospered, and we are feeling the effects to this day.

Hopefully, one of the eventual results will be a proper EU military capability, because the US has indeed proved politically frail and unreliable as a geopolitical partner despite its undeniable military clout.

As things stand, everything points to Trump being a product of Kremlin strategy, as does Brexit, while both the GOP and the Tories are pretty much washed up long term.

Nutsin 11:15 Thu Jul 18
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The way I see it is as follows:

Clinton was and is the worst kind of cunt! Would never want that cunt President. Also Obama’s policies were a shambles, Terrorism was rife all over the world, Isis had their Caliphate, Obama mindlessly bombing everywhere and getting nowhere. Foreign policy was a joke. Domestically you had people having gun fights with Cops and the rise of Black lives matter empowered by words of Obama. The economy was stagnant, PC was out of control and everyone began hating on everyone...

Now we have Trump.

Not perfect, Puts his foot in his mouth, anti PC (which I like) is as far from a meandering Politician that you can get, Bold ideas and unafraid to put them into practice...... The PC brigade are having a field day majoring in minors, meanwhile.

Caliphate has been gutted
Terrorist attacks are wayyyyy down
Economy is booming
Stock market soaring
Jobs market booming
Black and Hispanics employment numbers at all time highs
Poverty on the decline
Much needed and lauded Prison reform
Manufacturing making a come back
Iran put on notice
China getting put in line
N Korea negotiating nuclear disarmament
NATO nations finally paying their fare share
And Mexico is paying for the military wall along their southern border, Illegal immigration numbers are way down since Trump threatened Tariffs.

All this in the face of the Mueller hoax and a Democratic House and Liberal 9th circuit court doing everything they can to cock block his every move.


The man is not perfect but he is a leader and he is getting shit done.... I’ll take Trump and his policies over Obama any day of the week...

I wouldn’t mind if there was a Democrat running worth voting for, one with some good ideas, they’re all terrible and clueless!

Wait till Trump wins the next election and the GOP has control of the House and Senate it will be a great time for those that want to work and get ahead.... A middle class rebirth is just around the corner..... Smaller Gov’t and more opportunities for small business is what we want, not big Gov’t and Socialism, Fucking Bernie and his free everything, There is no such thing as free, someone’s paying for it and it’s the taxpayer.


MAGA
“Fuck your feelings”

Cheezey Bell-End 11:05 Thu Jul 18
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I think Trump himself basically chose a side that could get him elected and went with it, despite not being a political individual or even having any particular set of principles at all. He surrounded himself with political people like Bannon and now Bolton and let them lead him.
A couple of weeks ago, he was boasting that he nearly attacked Iran, but changed his mind. I think he must have spoken to Bolton, who convinced him that retaliation was the right course of action, then was talked down by someone wiser (maybe an actual military person as opposed to a warhawk) and thought better of it. He then thought telling the world would make him look somehow wise rather than just clueless.

riosleftsock 10:57 Thu Jul 18
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Capitol Man 9:38 Thu Jul 18
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It's doing the rounds on the right wing twat forums.

Is it?

I saw it when one of the MSM asked Trump about it on the white house lawn. She's been asked about it before and has never answered the question.

A bit like her father's background, nobody talks about it. He's dodgy as fuck.

Gavros 10:26 Thu Jul 18
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i can stand the idiots (like Bolty) they just dont understand

i can sort of understand some of the old, the ones who remember when times were really good in the post war rebuilding of the country and when everything was free. It was a state of affairs which couldnt, and didnt last, and ended up with the UK going to the IMF cap in hand. The thatcher reforms were hard and austerity was even harder and its sort of understandable that people have been seduced by the idea of blaming the EU for all that.

what i do not understand are those that used to be quite reasonable but who have since embraced this idiocy, whether out of spite (like Willtell) or seemingly a decision that they had to take one side or the other (rios, I hope). They know what theyre advocating is wrong, they know its highly damaging. They dont care anymore. Its fucking tragic.

Hammer and Pickle 10:25 Thu Jul 18
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It's what denial looks like - there's a choice between admitting you are wrong, which means facing the pain and fear, or running away, and the easiest way to do that is get into a conflict with the people who point out your error.

Hence the 90,000 likes to Trump's tweet when he told those Congresswomen to go home. Or those Tories who would rather see the breakup of the UK than no Brexit. Denial is not a good place for anyone.

Cheezey Bell-End 10:20 Thu Jul 18
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That's what I've been thinking too. It's like a sane person has been forced to watch Fox News every waking hour until the lies sink in and start to make sense.
It's been for a couple of years too, because I remember a comment about how the Democrats like to rig elections.

Willtell 10:18 Thu Jul 18
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Capitol Mong 9:02
Insults on Internet forums are what idiots use to try to boost their own weak personality and floundering arguments. You’re constantly doing these days Mong...

From BBC description of Trump’s Wall...

“The Democrat-led US House of Representatives has approved $4.5bn (£3.5bn) in humanitarian aid for the southern border, which has seen a surge migrants entering the US from Mexico.
Democrats want the funds to be spent improving conditions at detention centres - following reports of young children held in squalid cells - not on President Donald Trump's long-promised border wall.”

A wall would stop illegals so even a dumb left wing fool that sees only what he wants to see should realize that detention centers would become superfluous if the wall was built.

That’s because in spite of your assurances to the contrary, Democrats like immigration and open borders.

There’s only one fool in this conversation and it isn’t me pal.....

cholo 9:48 Thu Jul 18
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The thing is Rios'sock is better than this (he is, i remember), to buy into this shit you've either got to be really dumb, or you've got to actually pretend you're dumb enough to not get it, which is far worse, which also means it's nigh on impossible to have a sensible or honest conversion these days.

This is how fucking insane things have become, it makes honestly informed opinions hard to come by.

Capitol Man 9:45 Thu Jul 18
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ChillTheKeel 8:36 Thu Jul 18
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As opposed to the extremist who help put people like Trump and Johnson/Hunt in positions of power.

Gavros 9:42 Thu Jul 18
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Its just unbelievable dogshit.

I used to think this country was too sane to believe this sort of shit. Then brexit happened and erstwhile reasonable people just embraced this utter filth.

So sad to see.

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