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Gavros 8:33 Tue Jan 9
Fusion GPS testimony on Trump released -.Sends WHO into meltdown
This looks big.....there' an FBI informer within Trump's inner circle...

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Nutsin 5:25 Sat Apr 4
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I wonder what Australia and Taiwan did to prevent the spread of the virus? Does anybody know?

On Jan 6 the CDC warned Americans to take precautions if travelling to China.

On Jan 8 CDC issues alert about Coronavirus

On Jan 20 CDC activates it's emergency ops center

On Jan 23 State Dept orders the departure of all non emergency U S personnel and their families from Wuhan.
CDC raises travel travel notice for China to level 3

On Jan 29 Trump announced formation of task force

On Jan 31 HHS secretary Azar declares a U S public health emergency for Covid 19.
Trump signs proclamation barring entry to the U S of those that had travelled to China in past 14 days.

Feb 2 State Dept issues a travel advisory for China

Feb 4 FDA issues emergency authorization for CDC in vitro diagnostics tests
Trump mentions Coronavirus in his state of the union address.

All the time Xhina held back info, lied and refused American specialists entry to help determining the severity, type and genesis of the virus.

Dr. Fauci on Jan 21 said on a TV interview that the Virus was not a major threat to America

On Jan 26 Dr Fauci again said it was a low risk to the USA.

Pelosi was urging Americans to continue with their normL daily routines as was Governor Cuomo.
Everybody in the liberal media crucified Trump for his xenophobic travel ban on 1 /31

So it appears everybody was a bit slow on the uptake here including Dr. Fauci. Only person that did anything at this point was Trump. But eh, don't let facts get in the way of your liberal bias.

I know you are gonna crucify Trump for being overly optimistic in what he said along the way to the point that you are gonna say he cost lives, but the facts are nobody realized how contagious this virus was, everybody thought it wS gonna spread at the same clip as Sars, including the health professionals.

ChillTheKeel 2:45 Sat Apr 4
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Has anyone else been 'razzed' on here?

Hammer and Pickle 2:44 Sat Apr 4
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The point of Trump and the whole populist Right is it is fucking useless and all the selfish fucking useless cunts who support it can feel alright about being fucking useless selfish cunts together.

Frank Zappa did a prescient song about it called Flakes.

“We are millions and millions and we’re coming to get ya,
We’re protected by unions so don’t let it upset ya.”

Hammer I am 2:36 Sat Apr 4
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can't believe Trump still has supporters on here! anyone with half a brain cell must surely see by now that he's not fit to run a paper shop. the episode of Dirty Money on him really highlights how useless he actually is in the finance world.

Kaiser Zoso 2:23 Sat Apr 4
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Ark at Dreary_ go?

threesixty 2:12 Sat Apr 4
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Darby_ 1:38 Sat Apr 4

Quite like this!
The thing about life is that some way down the line we all pay for our errors.

ChillTheKeel 2:12 Sat Apr 4
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I razzed you a bit

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Does anyone know what the fuck this means?

Capitol Man 2:09 Sat Apr 4
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“ Trump hating libtard just like mong’

This just encapsulates what a sad little knob-end you are NoNuts. Well done.

As for snowflake and his glee comment. No. It’s fucking sad And potentially devastating but entirely predictable.

And the demonstrably wrong about American politics - that’s you isn’t it. Repeatedly. To the point at when it was clearly proven you Suddenly decided to throw a little tizzy about it being pointed out that you had been wrong for months.

The timing of your childish tantrum was not a coincidence now was it?

It is very entertaining btw so thanks for the laughs.

But back to Trump. It’s no time to let up on this. However we get past this is he is unlikely to play a significant role - and no one of the planet can risk another four more years with him in control.

ironsofcanada 2:02 Sat Apr 4
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Darby

Put it this way.

I razzed you a bit because you were so proud of your prediction in media res of a situation. But I don't have any personal animosity towards you and I did not see you personally glorying in the numbers.

I did see it from others and it bothered me. That is a concern for the people I know personally there and not an endorsement of Trump.

I hope we can separate that.

ironsofcanada 2:02 Sat Apr 4
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Darby

Put it this way.

I razzed you a bit because you were so proud of your prediction in media res of a situation. But I don't have any personal animosity towards you and I did not see you personally glorying in the numbers.

I did see it from others and it bothered me. That is a concern for the people I know personally there and not an endorsement of Trump.

I hope we can separate that.

ironsofcanada 1:52 Sat Apr 4
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Darby

Calling me playground or internet playground names does not change people's posts or your history of being demonstrably wrong about American politics or you just plain making up what I have said.

Does it?

Hammer and Pickle 1:51 Sat Apr 4
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Darby_ 1:38 Sat Apr 4

Darby_ 1:38 Sat Apr 4
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You really are a pitiful little manchild, Canada. It's not glee, but anger at the moron Trump and idiots like you who support him.

The US has about 30% of the world's coronavirus cases compared to about 4% of the world's population. A country like Taiwan, right next to China, has less than 400 people positive. There are plenty of other success stories around the world. Australia has only 30 dead compared to the 7,000 in America.

The reason for that is that idiots like you supported a reality TV clown who called the virus a "Democrat hoax" for weeks while the virus spread out of control in the US. All this for your poxy little Star Wars culture wars.

Clowns like you are responsible for Trump, and a clown like Trump is responsible for what's happening in America.

ironsofcanada 12:51 Sat Apr 4
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Hairy

I know plenty of people who did not ever hit their wives - whether they were young or not - who voted for Trump. That is a basic shred of humanity to me. So get your gross one-sided hypocritical generalisations out of here.

Most of them voted for him as the best of two bad choices, as I probably would have done.

Would I like a leader of my relatives and friends to not say stupid things so much, especially now?

Of course.

Is anything going change him being President?
Not without a whole lot more deaths.

I can only go by what people post Hairy and if you have not seen some revelling in American death and case numbers again you are only looking at one side.

HairyHammer 12:41 Sat Apr 4
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The stupidity of Fame has screwed America God help them especially New York rite now.
I remember watching Berlusconi thinking Italians must be absolute idiots to have that as a leader, thought it ridiculous that other countries would succumb to such thoughtless fools, I was wrong you can now know next to nothing about politics have many indiscretions act the tough nationalistic guy or even like a happy confident clown in Ukraine and GB's case and you will get votes even if everything that leaves your mouth is practically worthless.
And now we have a bunch of countries around the world run by characters rather than people who have principles and honour in their political system.

HairyHammer 12:30 Sat Apr 4
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Ironsofcanada 10.37

Anyone with a shred of humanity would never vote for Donald Trump, and would see him clearly for the slightly Elite class Fagin that he is.
Capitalism that crushes everyone before it including him is his God.
If you cannot see he is not the man that can lead the world right now in this terrible crisis you are either ridiculously stubborn or you love money much more than human life.
I don't think that Pickle is happy at all about deaths in America, you canada must look at Trump because from what I see he is constantly smiling and joking as thousands die, by the way he is No 1 on facebook don't ya know.

gph 12:13 Sat Apr 4
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If the only way you can defend someone is to say someone else is worse, then you've already lost the argument.

Biden may be a useless senile git, but how does that make a superhero out of Trump?

Hammer and Pickle 11:59 Sat Apr 4
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All true comma, but I fear you have not emphasised the key point, which, in my very humble and lowly opinion was simply that those who could have acted in the US and the UK failed to do so because, as was pretty much expressly stated, their personal wealth, and the stock market, was the chosen priority at the time.

Is this a political point? Of course it bloody is, and I will never tire of making it because there is a vital political lesson to be learnt here, and it is if we choose to elect selfish cunts in times of plenty because it makes us feel good as selfish cunts, we will suffer like selfish cunts when the shit hits the fan, which is what has happened now.

We need to be electing people who are ready to build institutional structures that serve the public interest. From Singapur to Sweden there is no shortage of models out there now it is the excuses that are running out.

ironsofcanada 11:59 Sat Apr 4
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Comma

The right leadership to actually put a lid on this would have had to have come in China. To pretend anything else is politicking.

, 11:40 Sat Apr 4
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There is no glee to be felt by anyone over the covid 19 fatalities and to suggest that people on this Board feel it is arrant nonsense.

The Chinese had sequenced the Covid 19 genome by 5 January whereupon they gave this information to the world. By the middle of January the world knew of its highly infective ability and the vulnerability of the elderly and frail to covid 19 was substantiated.

Not only was the rest of the world unprepared in terms of basic kit for managing the onset of a pandemic it could not even let its experts convince national leaders to mobilise quickly enough to minimise the spread of the disease.

As the fatalities mount up around the first world we realise that but for the right leadership, a leadership that put health far before economics, we could have put a lid on this pandemic.

As for Nutsin and his regular defence of Trump more and more he is a parody of the Black Knight as portrayed by John Cleese in the Holy Grail. His irrational, simplistic, exaggerated blather is regularly cut away like the Black Knight’s limbs, by posters on here, yet still he goes on ignoring the realities in his defence.

Hammer and Pickle 11:20 Sat Apr 4
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Cool.

And could I just say you make my skin crawl?

Thanks.

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