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a. At last we have a win now let's make it two, Win
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13%
  
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d. It's at times like these when you really do miss Love Island
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8%
  



Pub Bigot 5:35 Wed Jan 10
The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
In my previous thread we discussed Hernandez role within the team and that it hasn't quite worked out.

For me it's to do with playing to his strengths and to others he's not good enough. Irrespective, because of the negative 18th century football we play, he's not going to fit and it's best for all parties that he's sold, if at all possible.

The more lingering and concerning transfer is Reece Oxford. Hailed as the next big thing in English football, it seems the club are ready to cash in on a highly rated youngster who looked to be finding his feet in the Bundesliga and once again laments the boards shortsightedness.

I was hoping against Shrewsbury we'd see him, Rice and Burke at the back, but the moment the team sheet was announced it appeared to nail on that he's leaving if Monchengladbach meet our valuation.

I hope this is something the RWHAG raise in the future, selling off our brightest and best for a quick buck, when as usual, it'll likely come back to bite us right on the arse.

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Side of Ham 2:20 Fri Jan 12
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
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Surface.....grow the fuck up.....you meaningless cunt. :)

ironsofcanada 11:08 Fri Jan 12
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Willtell 12:15 Fri Jan 12

Like a lot of conversations with you, this is starting to go in circles.

I guess we see will this month whether our manager values him like others seem to and whether he scores goals for the rest of the season, where ever he is.

Charoo 12:31 Fri Jan 12
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Get shot of Hernandez - fucking dreadful footballer.

Might be a penalty box goal scorer but we can’t carry one of them.

I’m so disappointed in his ability to play football, he is shocking.

Willtell 12:15 Fri Jan 12
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
ironsofcanada 5:38 Thu Jan 11
"Hernandez has been successful with and without another striker with various managers."
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I accept that Hernandez can play as a lone striker and I've seen him do it for Mexico. Very often though international football for a nation like Mexico is playing minor nations. After a successful year at Leverkusen his goals halved iirc and he has failed to impress even against a 3rd division team.

It should be clear that Hernandez is not the answer for WH when we have invariably played a lone striker for a few years now. From what I remember Moyes also mostly played one striker and that's why he never played Hernandez at Man Utd. If we have to play him then it has to be as a 2nd striker which means we need a much stronger midfield to carry that extra striker.

He wasn't what WH needed and I am pleased that we now seem to have a manager that wants to select the players he wants rather than buy a striker and then see how we can fit him in...

Trevor B 9:15 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
or maybe the paper talk that we are bidding for several other striker is true? or also paper talk? rumours eh? who would've thought they are open to interpretation!

ironsofcanada 9:11 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
stoneman 8:40 Thu Jan 11

So maybe the paper talk that we are open to offers is...paper talk.

Trevor B 9:06 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
stoneman

not sure if you've noticed but Moyes plays Arnautovic as a striker, and he has done very well there. Not to mention Ayew being selected up front a fair bit under Moyes. And the fact that we rarely play more than pone out and out central forward.

the exile 9:04 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Sakho is an irrelevance and we need to get shot if only to stop this saga from dragging on any longer. I can't believe they would let Hernandez go as well unless we get another striker in. Yes, we are a bit top heavy, and yes, Martinez might be ready to play more of a part, but two out and one in would be about right. I like the look of Smolov - he has a terrific shot on him and seems to score quite a few from outside the area, so a very different animal from Hernandez. Could be interesting.

stoneman 8:40 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
So we are open to offers for Hernandez, Moyes state S we have too many forwards.
So sell Sakho and Hernandez and we are left with Carroll.

Hardly top heavy are we.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:30 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Just noticed you claimed 99.99%, not 99.9% - so you actually need 10,000 supporters to agree with you just to cancel out me.

Good luck with that.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:28 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Side of Ham 4:08 Thu Jan 11

'It was shit to watch'

It was only shit to watch because our players were playing badly. I agree watching the keeper pick the ball out of the back of our net is a bit shit, but again, that's a results/performance thing, not an aesthetic one.

Anyway, I disagree with you, so all you have to do now is to get 999 other posters to come on and agree and I will accept that you are right. Unless anyone else disagrees, in which case you will need a further thousand on your side.

ironsofcanada 6:05 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Swiss. 5:40 Thu Jan 11

He thinks we have "a lot of strikers at the club." Think he said that before as well.

Swiss. 5:40 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
We should definately not sell Oxford or Hernandez. Especially if we are selling Sakho.

Did Moyes say we wont sell Sakho without a replacement?

ironsofcanada 5:38 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Hernandez has been successful with and without another striker with various managers.

Watch his goals again. If he has someone behind him or even on the wing that consistently puts in a decent pass, he has converted those resulting chances for years at a very high rate.

When is the last time that he was playing and we were in a position to execute a through ball to him? And then you need the player to do it.

Some basic things are working again, we have lost 1 in 8. Let's see if we can get a midfield working before we decide to sell him.

Willtell 5:30 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Lee! Andy Carroll plays the lone striker role and not particularly well either. You said that Hernandez would be able to play the lone striker role. I said he would struggle and guess what? You're hoist by your own petard!

You called me all sorts of names and said I "would never admit to being wrong..." Well try a slice of humble pie then because I'm not the one that needs to admit being wrong.

Here are some of the quotes you highlighted when poking fun at me for saying I could not see the point in signing Hernandez unless we were going to be playing 2 strikers...

"Hernandez is a 2nd striker - not a lone striker."
"He isn't the type of physical player that can play up top alone"
"My point was simply that Fernandez is a 2nd striker and not a leader of the line"

Lee Trundle 5:14 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
"but did you really expect Hernandez to play like Andy Carroll?"

No, and I never said anything of the sort.

I expected (hoped) for us to play better than we have done this season, and I severely doubt it's going to be much more pretty under Moyes than it was under Bilic.

His best games for us this have been when he's played the lone role up front for us though.

Willtell 5:02 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Lee Trundle 4:46
Of course you associate yourself into a group of top coaches Lee but did you really expect Hernandez to play like Andy Carroll?

Of course managers always give their players backing but did you really, seriously think that Ferguson, the Leverkusen and Mexico managers were going to say their player was shit at the lone striker role?

You fucking mug!

Alex V 4:49 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
>>> Most on here thought that it was a sign there was going to be a change of system and players would be got in to compliment him.

Pretty naive view imo.

>>> Seeing as 99.99% of supporters were not happy with the style of football we played last season.

Yet so few seemed to support the sort of major surgery I thought was needed on the squad last Summer.

>>> But still you try and act like you're the only one who sees we've been shit for ages.

One need only look at the table over the past 18 months to see that. Anyone can do that. I'm not going to apologise for or criticising the disastrous attempts to solve it. Along with criticising the inherent problems at the club which I think caused it.

On The Ball 4:47 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
Hernandez would have scored plenty for us in the last season at UP - you know, when we were good - lots of crosses to finish.

In theory, he could work very well now - Arnie and Antonio firing in crosses, Lanzini putting balls through, him latching onto Carroll flick-ons.....

What we need is a confident and competent team behind him.

Lee Trundle 4:46 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
I, along with the Leverkusen manager, Ferguson, and also the Mexico national team manager still think he can play the lone striker role.

Just not under the type of football Bilic or Moyes produce.

Willtell 4:44 Thu Jan 11
Re: The Oxford/Hernandez Transfer Dilemmas
WHUDeano 2:46 Thu Jan 11
"The ridiculous thing is that everyone could see Herndandez wouldn't fit into our system."
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Really? Here's a couple that were fooled...

Eerie Descent 7:44 Mon Jul 17
Re: Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez
Would be our best striker since Tevez.
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Reply Lee Trundle 12:34 Mon Jul 17
Re: Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez
That's interesting.

So that's Leverkusen manager, Ferguson, and also the Mexico national team manager who think's he can play as a lone striker. And there's Willtell who categorically states he isn't one.

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