WHO Poll
Q: 2017/18 The RealWestHamFans March on March 10th
a. I'll be there, it's time for action now enough is enough
52%
  
b. Not for me, I'll see you all at the Stadium
15%
  
c. A bit difficult for me as I'll be on my stream with a cup of rosie
25%
  
d. What march
8%
  



Mart O 3:08 Fri Feb 2
Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
I won't post the whole thing up as it's too long but here's the link:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/feb/01/west-ham-suspend-tony-henry-racism-claim-sign-african-players

Not much new in there but this does not make for good reading:

"The allegations against Henry were unsurprisingly a hot topic in the West Ham dressing room on Thursday. The club has seven players of African descent and it is understood there is serious unhappiness within the squad. One player has expressed his dismay in private to the Guardian, questioning how such views can be expressed in 2018..."


I think we'll be able to judge fairly quickly whether we get the same sort of attitude the players showed against Palace. Without which this may turn out to be more serious than some bad media coverage.

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gph 1:45 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
We're lucky David Moyes doesn't join, as apparently he is a committed Christian

As a player with Cambridge United, Moyes received abuse from team-mate Roy McDonough for his religious beliefs; Moyes is a practising Christian. McDonough felt that religion was distracting them from focusing on playing; speaking of Moyes, Alan Comfort and Graham Daniels, he said: "The three of them sat in the changing room with a little black book, discussing their faith, when they should have been getting psyched up for a relegation scrap."[6] Following a 3–3 draw with Wigan Athletic on 9 March 1985, McDonough, who was 26 years old at the time, states that he "battered" 20-year-old Moyes for not putting sufficient effort into the game.

Wiki

Willtell 12:12 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
They can't pray in the changing room because I touch myself at night? Should I only touch myself in the morning then?

Or are you just another outraged god bothering wanker yourself?

ohgodno 12:05 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Willtell 11:43 Sat Feb 3

Because you touch yourself at night.

Willtell 11:43 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Yes why can't they do their prayers in the changing room?

Infidel 11:31 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
On his debut for us, Ayew skipped the warm up before kick off and spent the whole time praying to Allah in the classic Islamic prayer pose.

On a pitch, In front of tens of thousands of people. And on live TV.

Allah rewarded him by having him stretchered off half way through the first half with an injury that kept him out of the team for 3 months.

You couldn't make it up.

Willtell 11:22 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
HairyHammer 9:54 Fri Feb 2
I wholeheartedly endorse what you are saying there Hairy.

The only thing I really dislike is players from different cultures praying before a game. I'd rather they decide to play for us fans than imploring their non-existent God to let them play well!

Infidel 11:16 Sat Feb 3
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Hairy - spot on mate.

It has always been the case that fans get behind those players who (i) put in a proper shift and/or (ii) provide some entertainment.

Skin colour, ethnicity, background are irrelevant.

This is true for all clubs in England.

And here's a bit of nostalgia for the oldies on here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRT5mu-v9OI

HairyHammer 10:10 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Mex

Maybe some of them are that way but if so it is a very sad state of affairs we are in 2018 for fucks sake.

Mex Martillo 10:01 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Not sure if that is true of Glasgow Rangers and I have heard dodgy things about Everton

HairyHammer 10:01 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
I may have left out a few hammers players countries but all those who are supposedly not from here should get the jist .

HairyHammer 9:54 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
What any African or Serb or Argentinian or Spanish or Welsh West ham player has to know from the bottom of every West ham fans hart is this, when they put on the Claret and Blue shirt and run onto the pitch the only colour that matters to us is Claret and Blue and that is the absolute truth.
I would be shocked if every other Football clubs fans do not feel the same, ie their teams colour/colours are all that counts..

There will always be a minority of idiots at every club and in every pub or household that is true but on the vast vast majority a player is seen as a brick in the wall of a football club and are seen as very valuable and their colour or belief system become practically invisible.

Sven Roeder 9:49 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
So we have 7 Africans and have sacked the bloke who said we shouldn’t sign Africans
Perhaps they might even play better.....
For Africa
In a tribute to the Court of Social Media
Because they are in the team and not creating MAYHEM

stoneman 9:44 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Crisis?

Really? So many drama queens.

Mex Martillo 9:34 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
It makes no sense, we have 7 Africans and even chased 2 more In this window
But the director of football say WE have a no more Africans policy
And no one else at the club knows anything about a no more Africans policy?

Mike Oxsaw 8:33 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Moyes can use his "New Kid on the Block" approach to state that this was a problem before he arrived and even go so far as to claim that his "new broom" helped uncover the problem*.

If the players all buy into that, he may have a chance of ensuring they all pull in the right direction.



* I would be surprised if West Ham are the only club with such a "policy", and if there are any more, they will all shut up shop on the subject whilst putting out media-friendly statements.

Lertie Button 8:24 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
All it will take is a few of the African players to take their feet off the pedal just a fraction and we are in big shit.
We haven't managed to put any daylight between ourselves and the bottom teams and our "easy" run of games hasn't too any left.
I'm fucking worried

Mike Oxsaw 5:00 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
The players just might believe that the club is bigger than it's (current) owners - a sentiment strongly expressed on here and one I find hard to disagree with - and pull together in a "Fuck you, now FUCK OFF" show of solidarity.

My breath's over there in the corner. Would somebody care to hold it for me?

Hermit Road 4:42 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
This is an extremely serious situation. Purely from a pragmatic point of view, we have a threadbare squad and sit a few points above relegation. The teams that stay up are the ones who want it most. We now have a number of players who won't really want to do that well for the people who pocket millions if we remain in the premier league. It won't just be the Africans either, lots of their team mates will be friends with them and won't be happy with the club.

Does it mean we will go down, not necessarily. Has it increased our chances of capitulating, almost certainly I'd say.

On reflection though the word crisis could easily apply to the whole tenure of the current regime. They are incapable of running the club right, so lurching from one crisis to another is our lot while they are here.

Mart O 4:39 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
gph 4:33 Fri Feb 2

And just why would anyone think the author of the article, a lifelong WHU fan and once long-term poster on here (among other WHU sites), had made this up. He almost certainly didn't, I'd have thought.

Mart O 4:35 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
the exile 4:26 Fri Feb 2

I doubt it. They're supposedly good mates.

gph 4:33 Fri Feb 2
Re: Guardian Article on 'West Ham Crisis'
Black man forms opinion. Black man articulates opinion.

I'm struggling to see from what perspective these utterly unremarkable events are obviously made-up bullshit...

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